Isn’t This a Hate Crime?
Posted on December 6, 2007
A question for the politically correct. Isn’t this a hate crime? Because, as Michelle Malkin points out, it certainly would be if the races were reversed.
As Sarah Kreager, 26, tried to sit down on a Baltimore City bus Tuesday, police say, a middle-schooler told her she couldn’t. When she attempted to take another seat, a middle-schooler wouldn’t let her. Finally, according to police, Kreager just sat down.
She was “immediately attacked†by nine students — three females and six males — from Robert Poole Middle School. They punched and kicked her at 2:59 p.m. at the intersection of 33rd Street and Chestnut Avenue, according to Maryland Transit Administration police.
Kreager was dragged off the bus and her boyfriend, Troy Ennis, attempted to get her back on, police said.
She sustained “serious injuries†and had to be transported to the University of Maryland Shock Trauma Center, according to a police report.
Examiner.com Related Articles:Kreager suffered two broken bones in her left eye socket, police said.
“She had eye muscles that were damaged,†a police report states. “She had deep lacerations on the top of her head and another above her neck.â€
Two seats and the bus’ rear glass were destroyed during the attack, police said.
The bus driver on the No. 27 line quickly called police, who responded and arrested the nine juveniles, said Jawauna Greene, an MTA police spokeswoman.
All nine suspects, ages 14 and 15, were arrested and charged with aggravated assault…
…The suspects in the incident are black. The victim is white, according to the police report.
Hat tip: Gateway Pundit
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It’s only a hate crime if the victim is one of the left’s favored classes: illegal immigrants, homosexuals, Muslims, etc.
If the victim is white or Christian, forget about it.
All crimes are hate; but ‘hate crimes’ are just ways to give special ‘rights’ to the left’s favored ‘victims.’
It’s unAmerican and unConstitutional - because such circumvents equal protection under the law.
If my grandma is attacked and mugged by a black, it will not be considered a ‘hate crime;’ if a black women is attacked and mugged by a white, it will.
The left seeks to take away unablienable rights from average Americans all the time.
James
Ahhh…I see. Thanks for explaining it so well.
James you are correct. It is unfortunate that this is going on because it means there is no equal protection. One race is seen as a greater victim than another. This situation also causes a rift between races.
When I lived in Baltimore, I was punched in the head by a
black high-school student. I’m a white female, he was black. I did not know the boy and it was completely unprovoked. Nothing was done.
Also while riding the bus, I would frequently hear students brag about what they had stolen from local stores. Besides the shoplifting, businesses in Baltimore complain about students loitering and bothering customers while waiting at the bus stop.
IMHO, the city should stop using public buses to transport students.
Of course, this attack just happened, so it remains to be seen if “hate crime” additions are made after the investigation.
In reality, more blacks are charged with hate crimes than whites, so it is not true that blacks never get charged with hate crimes.
More blacks than whites charged with hate crimes? In your dreams, Mr. Blubbering Liberal.
If 9 whites attacked a black woman on a bus, it would be the ONLY story in the MSM and would be the subject of a ten-part NY Times series that would win a Pulitzer before it was even published. But nine blacks attacking a white woman? Not worth covering. Just another day in the ‘hood, I guess.
Incidentally, it doesn’t matter in this case whether “hate crime” criteria are met or not. The thugs are all juveniles, so unless somebody’s dead, they get a pass.
Paging Jesse and Al. Paging Jesse and Al.
Who is that idiot that claims more black people get charged with hate crimes more than white? Blacks commit a considerable amount more violent crime but it’s rarely if ever prosecuted as a hate crime.
It is possible that, in absolute numbers, more blacks are charged with hate crimes, since black-on-white crime is 100 times more common than white-on-black crime. Therefore, if all white-on-black crime is prosecuted as hate crime, and slightly more than 1% of black-on-white crime is so prosecuted, then blacks would still outnumber whites in total charged with hate crimes. Usually, however, when a white is attacked by a gang of blacks, the authorities rush to judgment and assure everyone it wasn’t a hate crime. Note also that when a Latin attacks a black, that goes into the crime statistics as a white-on-black crime.
Think it’s bad now? Check back with me after 9 years with a Dem Congress and 8 with a Dem President.
Charles, if things weren’t bad enough your comment scared the living crap out of me. Because you are right. If the demonrats ( I did not misspell) are in control…..well need I say more?
If you want to see a hate crime, this nasty video that chumps put up to smear Michelle Malkin is sure it. Just google “michelle malkin interview” video. Or click this: link
Can you imagine if the situation was reversed? The left has no shame at all.
Everyone who isn’t white scream “racism” when something doesn’t go their way, When a white person screams it, we are laughed at.
Democrats love everyone except white Americans. They LOVE the people who are destroying our Country.
Screw Political Correctness, if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck…….
This is truly awful. When will whites realize that we are in a race war? War has been declared on white people. It’s time to fight back. I hope some proud white men (maybe Sarah Kreager’s boyfriend or brother or father?) take revenge on some
blacks. This needs to be escalated and people need to wake up and act, now.
What the liberals forget is … backlash.
When we have had enough it will truly suck to be them.
Every time a read a horrific story like this (which seems to be every few days now), I have to force myself to remember that I know many black people who are kind, generous, and peaceful, and just as repulsed as I—perhaps more so—at the savage wildness that dominates the culture of an unfortunately large segment of the black population. But many black people do NOT exalt violence, promiscuity, and ignorance.
So what can be done about it? I live near Trenton, New Jersey, which is in the throes of a terrible wave of violence, almost all black on black and black on Latin, but not entirely. And Newark and Camden are far, far worse. The situation is too obvious for the politicians to deny or ignore. But when you hear their proposed solutions, you realize how helpless and deluded they are: Put up billboards warning against gang membership. Throw more money at after-school programs. Make it a crime to recruit for gang membership on school property. Make honest rural residents wait even longer before they can pick up their shotgun. Train prisoners for jobs. Suspend first-graders who draw a picture of a squirt gun. Give the teacher’s union more money. Pass out condoms and needles. Teach the inner-city kids how wonderful their culture is, and how their ancestors were kings. Celebrate Kwanzaa.
Interesting that the politicians don’t mention anything about punishment, but they do still spout the decades-old exculpatory nonsense about “root causes.” In other words, they have no answers at all.
This was absolutely disgusting!! I hope everybody bombards Fox news with THIS story. I want to see where Sharpton and Jesse Jackson and the Black Panthers stand on this. Lets see if they have the balls to
admit that its a HATE Crime AGAINST A WHITE PERSON. This stuff happens alot, and never makes
the news unless its against a black. The watch out..all the above mentioned come crawling outta the woodwork. Enuff is ENUFF! We need to wake up and STAND UP for ourselves. Like the person above said “if it walks like a duck….!
stand up white america and take back are streets. i am sick of it. there are 37 million blacks in america. there are 230 million whites! f–k the police and the laws. the blacks dont use them. the blacks are terrorizing the streets. to many people have died this year due to head injury from an attack. they very seldom fight one on one. if they feal they cant win and still look good they all have to jump in. believe this white America those kids hate you. they wouldnt lift a finger to help you up but they will ball a fist to knock you down. this isnt the first time those kids did this. this is the time they got caught.
William,
It’s not the blacks who’ve declared war on whites, generally speaking; it’s other, self-loathing whites.
If you’re going to take action, take intelligent political action. Don’t just look for blacks to beat up. Besides being plain wrong, it’s not effective; it just plays into the hands of the aforementioned self-loathing leftist whites.
The problem is the special victim status endowed upon minorities. When they understand that they are going to be treated the same as everybody else, and punished for the same “hate crimes” to the same degree that they expect whites to be, and should be, when the situation is reversed, the problem will no longer exist.
Darrell, you are 100% correct. Superb post.
Watch the news,
This crime is being classified as a hate crime. Police tend to investigate things and then file charges. I think that’s what the justice system is meant to do. They got it right. Unfortunately, this group of black teens did something reprehensible to a white couple. I’m still a little confused as to why the boyfriend’s injuries were so minimal, but that’s another story.
Children need to be better disciplined. They run around cursing and fighting and no authority figure takes action. I have seen cases of black, hispanic and white children behaving badly. VERY badly, and it’s got to stop.
Does anyone who posts here even know what the definiton of a hate crime is? Yes, of course this was a hate crime if the attackers were motivated by the victim’s race. It doesn’t matter under the law if the attackers were black and the victim was white or vice versa. If the law is being enforced unfairly that is another matter, but nobody has “special victim” status. That is just a phony right wing talking point, just like “special rights” and the “war on Christmas”.
FREE THE BALTIMORE 9!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just kiddin, a few years in juvi will serve them.
I like black people. In fact, I love them. Call me a race traitor if you will.
This is acceptable, normal behavior for youth in Baltimore. There is no chance any of these animals will suffer any consequences for thsi crime. The worst that will happen is that they will be suspended from school temporarily. The thugs are probably getting nothing but positive reinforcement from their community as well. The MTA has apparently decided that this was not a hate crime, according to todays’ articles in the SUN.
Much as I dislike Sharpton and JJ, it would be nice if the white community had a similar advocate for situations like these.
Must be nice to wbe able to live by totally your own rules and commit any crimes you desire, simply because you’re black. Of course if anyone complains, they are obviously a racist right?
This is why Baltimore City is a cesspool.
Wake up, crdt. In theory, a hate crime can of course involve “actors” of any races, but in practice, black-on-white violence—100 times more prevalent than white-on-black—is assumed not to involve hate. But do you really think that if nine white teens attacked a homeless black woman on a bus (and wouldn’t let her SIT DOWN!), the authorities wouldn’t be assuring everyone that they were going to prosecute it as a hate crime?
Incidentally, I suspect the recent bus attack was NOT directly motivated by race. I doubt very much that those nine youths walk around angry about slavery or the difficulties Jackie Robinson had when he broke into baseball. I would guess that race entered into the mix only in that the youths figured that whites would be easy targets. But to me, a beating is a beating and should be prosecuted the same whether it’s because the victim was black, or he was wearing a Red Sox hat, or the assailants didn’t like his haircut.
crdt, when government-defined “victims” get favored treatment in employment and college admissions, they enjoy “special rights.” And when the ACLU sues to prevent a kindergarten teacher from using red and green napkins for her “Winter Party,” or from putting up paper snowflakes on the windows, or from wishing her pupils “Merry Christmas,” that’s a war on Christmas.
“In theory, a hate crime can of course involve “actors†of any races, but in practice, black-on-white violence—100 times more prevalent than white-on-black—is assumed not to involve hate.”
I would be interested to know where you get your numbers, but let’s suppose they are accurate. Couldn’t you make the same argument about “male on female” crime? I wonder why no one seems to isolate this group (males) when making generalizations about crime. If we could just get rid of all these dang males, look how the crime rates would fall!
Back to hate crimes, though. Our laws have always taken the mind set of the criminal and the nature of the crime into account when handing out punishment. Otherwise, every criminal would be punished based entirely on the result of the crime. Ever heard of first degree murder, second degree murder, and manslaughter? The victim is just as dead in all cases isn’t he? Businessmen who steal money from their investors often get fines and probation while a kid who robs a convenience store gets sent to prison. Is the money any less stolen in one case than the other?
“when government-defined “victims†get favored treatment in employment and college admissions, they enjoy “special rights.â€
I just hope those “government defined victims” appreciate all the special rights they have been given. And I hope the poor, oppressed, white Christian male, who has been so left behind here in our country, will somehow struggle back and once again attain equal status with all the “victims” who have unfairly risen so far above them.
“And when the ACLU sues to prevent a kindergarten teacher from using red and green napkins for her “Winter Party,†or from putting up paper snowflakes on the windows, or from wishing her pupils “Merry Christmas,†that’s a war on Christmas.”
I would love to see your source on that one. But on the outside chance that it is true, I have to wonder. How will Jesus and God ever survive the humiliation? There is just no way the Almighty can be expected to go on with no paper snowflakes in the school windows. And just now, when God is still reeling from the effects of having a teddy bear in Sudan named after another of his prophets!
Plus… just look around! The Christian population in the U.S. is down to only 80%, and the number of people who celebrate Christmas is down to only 96%! Oh, persecuted American Christians, surrender now!
“I would be interested to know where you get your numbers.”
FBI crime statistics, published every year. Where do you get yours, The Nation?
At least you now admit that some people do enjoy special rights, though you justify the situation because white Christian males generally do well.
Of course the law takes state of mind (not “mind set”) and intent into account. Deliberate homicide to effect a robbery is more serious than accidental homicide from careless driving. But the races of the people involved should not matter.
“Businessmen who steal money from their investors . . .” You ARE an avid reader of The Nation, aren’t you? And our streets are full of kids who have robbed convenience stores and WEREN’T sent to prison.
You don’t have to trust me about what the ACLU is up to. Why don’t you simply call them and complain that a local teacher put up snowflakes. They’ll get right on it.
You don’t disguise your left-wing politics very well, crdt.
It is a violent world, and it is only getting worse. With the current administration destroying this country and selling it out from under us, violence and crime are goning to be the only means of survival. However, i am Italian and my wife is Black, and we have beautiful children. I teach my children that the world is a violent place, and not to trust anyone out of family. I teach them to hit first and keep hitting, if and only if they feel threatened. I personally hate all people, in general. Respect needs to be earned, not given freely, no matter age, race, or gender. You can’t pretend that the situation is going to get better, so the only thing to do is be prepared, paranoid, and willing to fight.
“I personally hate all people, in general.”
You don’t really mean that, do you c?
““I would be interested to know where you get your numbers.â€
FBI crime statistics, published every year.”
I tried but I could find any numbers on the FBI site that showed black on white violence as 100 times more frequent that white on black, or even addressed it at all. Could you post a link?
Here is what I did find:
Among the four categories of race reflected in UCR arrest data, 69.7 percent of persons arrested were white, 58.5 percent of persons arrested for violent crime were white, and 68.2 percent of persons arrested for property crime were white.
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2006/arrests/index.html
Hate Crimes 2006
By Race
An analysis of available race data for the 7,330 known hate crime offenders revealed that:
58.6 percent were white.
20.6 percent were black.
5.7 percent were groups made up of individuals of various races (multiple races, group).
1.1 percent were Asian/Pacific Islander.
1.0 percent of known offenders were American Indian/Alaskan Native.
12.9 percent were unknown.
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/hc2006/offenders.html
If law enforcement is ignoring black on white hate crime, how come it amounted to 20.6% of the arrests?
So did you just make your numbers up or repeat numbers that someone else made up?
“Of course the law takes state of mind (not “mind setâ€) and intent into account. Deliberate homicide to effect a robbery is more serious than accidental homicide from careless driving. But the races of the people involved should not matter.”
How about religion? If somebody beats the crap out of an innocent Christian just because he hates all Christians, do you have a problem with the law seeing that differently than if the same guy beats somebody up in a bar fight?
“You don’t have to trust me about what the ACLU is up to. Why don’t you simply call them and complain that a local teacher put up snowflakes. They’ll get right on it.”
I’ll take that as an admission that you or someone you are blindly quoting made that one up too. Let me guess, Bill O’Reilly?
“You don’t disguise your left-wing politics very well, crdt.”
I’m not trying. Thanks for the compliment.
i do not intend to tiptoe through life just to safely arrive at death. so satith mafaka!
From “The Color of Crime” (New Century Foundation), a statistical analysis of Uniform Crime Reports from 1999 (things haven’t changed a whole lot since then): “Of the approximately 1,700,000 crimes of violence involving blacks and whites, 90 percent are committed by blacks against whites. Blacks are therefore up to 250 times more likely to do criminal violence to whites than the reverse.” Sorry, I was wrong. I had said 100 times more prevalent, but it’s “only” 10 times more prevalent (though by a much smaller percentage of the population).
Also from the analysis: “Blacks are twice as likely as whites to commit hate crimes.” Notice that although 90% of interracial violence is black on white, black-on-white hate crime makes up only 20.6% of the total of hate crimes. (I know we’re dealing with a different year, but again, things don’t change that much.) Apparently a far greater percentage of white-on-black violence is considered hate crime. (A somewhat greater percentage is to be expected. Whites don’t usually mug blacks.)
Incidentally, Hispanic-on-black crime (hardly unheard of) is lumped in with white-on-black crime.
The analysis, with all the graphs and references, is available from NCF at 2717 Clarkes Landing, Oakton, VA 22124.
Your next question is loaded, since a “bar fight” usually involves willing combatants and is seldom an outright unprovoked attack. However, for argument’s sake, let’s assume that one guy in a bar bashes another guy’s head in simply because he likes bashing in people’s heads. To me, that’s the same as if he bashed his head in because he was Christian, or Jewish, or homosexual, or short, or liked the Red Sox, or reads The Nation. Same crime. Same punishment.
In the liberal world—Judge: Did you bash his head in because he was gay? Thug: No, your honor. I like gays. I just needed to get his head out of the way to see the TV. Judge: Very well, you get a discount on your sentence.
As to what the ACLU is up to, do a little surfing on this site. I also recommend “The Politics of the American Civil Liberties Union,” by William A. Donohue. You might also check out what the Stalinist thought police are up to at your local college.
And I don’t listen to Bill O’Reilly.
Three guesses, crdt: Members of a particular race make up 13% of the U.S. population but commit 96% of the carjackings. Think hard now.
Hey Dave and Silesian
Where do you idiots get your stats from?
Yeah “more black people get charged with hate crimes more than white”
link
The incident is, in fact, being investigated as a hate crime.
link
So much for you idiots and your “white people are being persecuted” fantasies.
crdt, you asked for a link, so here is the URL is for U.S. Department of Justice crime statistics from 1996 through 2005. It is very detailed and supports everything I have said.
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/abstract/cvusst.htm
Routsong, your post makes no sense. Regardless, crdt’s own figures show that more whites than blacks are charged with hate crimes, even though black-on-white violence is far more common than the reverse.
tkts, just because, under pressure, the police now say they are “investigating” this as a hate crime doesn’t mean it will be prosecuted as one. (It won’t be.) And I never claimed that the bus case should be prosecuted as a hate crime, anyway. In fact, I don’t think race played much of a part, except that the punks probably figured that whites would be an easy target. I merely objected to the double standard routinely applied in such cases. And your link doesn’t work.
All three of you might benefit from checking out the DOJ link. In fact, Table 42 for the year 2005 contains a statistic I was unaware of, one that is almost beyond belief:
In 2005, there were 111,490 rapes/sexual assaults of white women. The “perceived race” of the offender was white in 44.5% of the cases, black in 33.6%. (”Other” and “not known” account for the rest.) There were 36,620 rapes/sexual assaults of black women. In these cases, the perceived race of the offender was white in 0.0% of the cases, black in 100.0%. (These are single-offender/single-victim crimes.)
Something to think about over your latté.
link to DOJ stats:
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/abstract/cvusst.htm
crdt, you asked for a link. This URL is for U.S. Department of Justice crime statistics from 1996 through 2005. It is very detailed and supports everything I have said.
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/abstract/cvusst.htm
Routsong, even though your post makes no sense, crdt’s own figures show that more whites than blacks are charged with hate crimes, even though black-on-white violence is far more common than white-on-black.
tkts, just because, under pressure, the police now say they are “investigating” this as a hate crime doesn’t mean it will be prosecuted as one. (It won’t be.) And I never claimed that the bus case should be prosecuted as a hate crime, anyway. In fact, I don’t think race played much of a part, except that the punks probably figured that whites would be an easy target. I merely object to the double standard routinely applied to such cases. And your link doesn’t work.
All three of you might benefit from checking out the DOJ link. In fact, Table 42 for the year 2005 contains one statistic I was unaware of, one that is almost beyond belief:
In 2005, there were 111,490 rapes/sexual of assaults of white women. The “perceived race” of the offender was white in 44.5% of the cases, black in 33.6%. (”Other” and “not known” account for the rest.) There were 36,620 rapes/sexual assaults of black women. In these cases, the perceived race of the offender was white in 0.0% of the cases, black in 100.0%.
Something to think about over your latté.
“From “The Color of Crime†(New Century Foundation), a statistical analysis of Uniform Crime Reports from 1999 (things haven’t changed a whole lot since then): “Of the approximately 1,700,000 crimes of violence involving blacks and whites, 90 percent are committed by blacks against whites. ”
You mean this New Century Foundation?…..
The New Century Foundation, founded November 1990 and based in Oakton, Virginia, is a “self-styled think tank that publishes a monthly journal and a Web site called American Renaissance. Also hosts biannual conferences. The Foundation promotes pseudoscientific and questionably researched and argued studies to validate the superiority of whites.”
The Foundation is headed by Samuel Jared Taylor, “author of Paved With Good Intentions: The Failure of Race Relations in Contemporary America, a 1991 book that documented fundamental problems with U.S. policies on civil rights, crime and welfare. … But Mr. Taylor was criticized as an advocate of ‘the new white racism’ by conservative author Dinesh D’Souza, whose 1995 book The End of Racism reported many of the same racial problems Mr. Taylor had examined in his earlier book.”
“Presenters at conferences have included Samuel Francis and Gordon Lee Baum of the Council of Conservative Citizens. Attendees have included Don Black, operator of the white supremacist Web site Stormfront, and National Alliance leader Kevin Alfred Strom. Taylor has been a board member of the Council of Conservative Citizens, and is on the advisory board and has contributed to the racist journal Occidental Quarterly.”
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=New_Century_Foundation
Well, they sound reputable! Hey, they aren’t the FBI though, are they? I thought you said your info came from the FBI.
And how come you keep changing your name, Silisean/SLSN/Byline? Sceered some black guy might come and getcha? Why don’t you just put on your sheet and admit you are a racist?
The numbers don’t lie. NCF can’t stop people from attending their conferences. How about the statistics from the U.S. Department of Justice? Or is that a racist organization, too?
Use of different names was only to be able to post, as the site was apparently accepting the post but not printing it.
Getting desperate, aren’t you, crdt? We all know that a racist is somebody who’s winning an argument with a liberal.
Yeah, you win. I wonder though. What do all your black friends think?
And how come you keep changing your name, Silisean/SLSN/Byline? Sceered some black guy might come and getcha? Why don’t you just put on your sheet and admit you are a racist?
As opposed to what?
Jim
Jimmac
jmac
crdt?
Are you willing to admit you are a troll?
The incident is, in fact, being investigated as a hate crime.
tkts… Just what, exactly, is a “hate crime?”
Sure. Are you willing to admit you are a racist?
I’m willing to admit to exactly what I am. Biased? yes… Bigot? Not under the Liberal definition. You can’t place anti-homosexuality under that definition. Racist? I’m the farthest thing from a racist.
“Bigot? Not under the Liberal definition. You can’t place anti-homosexuality under that definition.”
I thought we were discussing race hate crimes but now that you mention it, anti-homosexuality WOULD be placed under the definition of bigotry as I and, I would say, the vast majority of liberals, even a majority of the civilized world, would define it.
Sarah Kreager is homeless. That’s why it’s not a hate crime, and not being pursued by either media or bureaucrats.
If it had been a middle class home-owning person of any color, this crime would get a lot more attention.
Of course this was a hate crime. She was attacked because she was white and homeless and have the nerve to defy these human animals by sitting down. I am all for hate crime legislation. A hate crime is terrorism. If I read about a man killing his entire family, I might be appalled, shocked and maybe even angry, but am I scared? no. Because I am aware that this person harming me is highly unlikely. However, If I wear scented deodarant and ks, and I hear that some one is killing people who wear scented deodarant, am I scared. Of course! So the perpetrator of a hate crime, manages to not only harm his victim but also strike terror in the heart of thousands. So now are white people going to be more afraid of randomly being attacked by young black teens. Uh yeah! They wouyld hae been more so, If they had not been caught! These kids should get at least juvenile life and their parents! Just too late for them, I quess. I can only wish them bad luck! How can they defend this? They are no better than the human animals they raised. I am black and very proud of it. I am first a human being. What separates a human being form a human animal is our humanity.
white boys put down the x-box and start doing some push ups, we got to handle this one ourselves.
Yes it is a hate crime. The ACLU, NAACP and the NBBP can spin it any ways they want.