Stop the ACLU Blogburst (Ron Paul tag tossed in for gratuitous linkage)
Posted on October 10, 2007
So I haven’t been around much, but that all ends now. I am back. And for your enjoyment today we get to see the ACLU smacked down for their sad attempt at getting the Bush administration in trouble for their policy of extraordinary rendition.
It seems a German citizen claimed that the CIA abducted him, drugged him and sent him to a prison in a third world country where he was tortured and finally released on a hilltop in another country in a case of mistaken identity.
The Supreme Court yesterday dismissed the case without comment after the Bush Administration said that if the case were not dismissed it would threaten state secrets.
What I want to know is WHY a group that calls itself the AMERICAN Civil Liberties Union is so concerned with the civil liberties of a German citizen. The last time I checked our civil liberties did not apply to the citizens of other countries, and the ACLU is not the arbiter of international law. We’ll ignore the fact for the moment that international law is NOT what our government should worry about when they are making decisions about how best to protect the country.
In a related story (related because people that obviously care more about their beliefs than the security of this country once again have caused our government to have a harder time tracking our enemies actions) a slip of the lip caused what amounted to an internal Al-Q intranet to shut down when it was revealed that the U.S. Government was watching their sites and gleaning intel from them without them knowing they had their security breached.
The ACLU, the NYT and other groups and organizations that fight against our government on the GWOT are basically attacking freedom and the safety and security of this nation, putting Americans in harms way in their misguided attacks on our governments attempt to track and deal with terrorists.
What I want to know is this;
When the islamists get control and impose sharia law, will the ACLU have the balls to stand up and say “no way achmed”, or do you think it more likely that they will realize that speaking against the caliphate is a death sentence?
I am betting they will shut up and become good little dhimmis.
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If our rights come from God or from natural law, then issues of nationality are not relevant.
If you believe that civil liberties only apply to US citizens, then you are asserting that our rights are not natural at all, but mere privileges extended by the state.
Thank you, Mr. Stalin.
By the way, it’s telling that the government did not dispute the plaintiff’s account. They merely asserted the right to bury the incident as a “state secret”. To any reasonable observer, by even arguing the case in this manner the Bush administration has conceded that they do in fact engage in rendition and sponsor torture.
It’s also worth noting that nowhere in the Constitution is the executive branch granted the authority to declare secrets at all. The Congress is granted the power to declare its minutes secret, but the executive is given no such power. That means that access to the federal courts is being cut off here on the basis of a power asserted without Constitutional basis.
brian, our rights, while God Given, apply to those who fall under our jurisdiction, i.e. citizens of this country, the United States of America. Using your logic, the “rights” granted to a person under sharia law would also be universal and islamic countries could then apply them to citizens of this country.
Logic and teh real world don’t work that way. People are protected under the laws of the country in which they are a citizen.
As for that leak, perhaps you should look in the Bush Administration for the source of that leak. They were so blasted happy to be able to play yet another fear card that they overplayed their hand.
The ACLU works to defend and preserve the individual rights and liberties guaranteed to every person in this country by the Constitution and laws of the United States. Anyone who criticizes it must really be brainwashed.
Agent Smith, the ACLU works tirelessly to enact international law, secularism and far left ideals through judicial activism into the culture of this country.
Anyone that doesn’t see that must really be brainwashed.
Next time you want to leave a comment please leave one with some semblance of substance.
So… Can the Iranian government, who have now declared the United States a state sponsor of terror, abduct US citizens and send them to some remote island in the pacific for torture interrogation, due to belief that they might be a “terrorist agent”? I rarely agree with the ACLU on anything, but they are right to assert that the U.S. cannot abduct citizens of foreign countries and subject them to torture and release them in the middle of no-where. That is absurd. The man needs his day in court. Other than the fact that this is just appalling that we would do this, it is even sadder that we’re trying to cover it up. Americans are soon looking at the day when they can no longer leave the borders of their own country for fear that they will be abducted by foreign governments who no longer care to respect the Geneva Convention on the basis that if America doesn’t adhere to it, they sure don’t have to.
Christopher, yes the iranians can do that, and there is nothing to stop them. But that shouldn’t stop our government from chasing down terrorists. If we had a real evil government they would have simply killed him instead of letting him go (if they were to do such a thing) but IF they did this they were nice enough to let him go and not just put a bullet in the back of his head.