Homosexual radicals admit at conference: Kids are stage props
Posted on February 1, 2007
Scripps-Howard: Training gay parents to present their case
Armed with a slick 162-page handbook and coaching from daylong seminars, gay and lesbian parents across the country are learning to present the most convincing case that their families are normal, even mainstream.
A national training campaign, started in 2005 by Family Pride in Washington, and ramped up in the past few months, prepares gay parents to be spokespeople and counter critics of the growth in families led by same-sex couples. About 30 parents and other supporters of gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender civil rights - plus about 15 children - attended a training session in San Francisco over the weekend. Los Angeles and San Diego are next.
The campaign to create a speakers bureau of people available to appear in the media and before lawmakers is bearing fruit. A Texas couple who were among the first to complete the training were slated to tell their story on Oprah Winfrey’s talk show Monday.
Remember all the horror and outrage when Bush “staged” an interview with deployed troops. These extremists are staging an entire social movement and getting sweet segments on Oprah.
At the seminar, parents worked to shape their stories into compelling appeals for civil rights. They heard about research on gay and lesbian people who raise children and on the terminology that most appeals to straight Americans.
“Our families are a real political tool,” trainer Trina Olson told the group, which included people from a spectrum of ages and ethnicities. The event was a collaboration of multiple family-advocacy groups, including the national Family Pride organization and the San Francisco Bay Area’s Our Family Coalition and Children of Lesbians and Gays Everywhere.
Participants heard about using words and phrases that signal what they have in common with people around them - “being a fair person,” “in it together” and “building strong families” - rather than focusing on gay rights and sexual orientation.
So there you go. Advice from the “trainer”: Purposely use kids to promote a radical adult-led social upheaval and oh yeah, lie about what you are really doing while you’re at it.
Carefully-crafted repackaging with innocent kids as props. Nice.
The fact that these people have chosen to purposely deny so many children either a mother or a father is abominable. It’s true indicator of the selfishness and narcissism of today’s culture that something as fundamental as a child’s right to have a mother and a father is dismissed so easily. Please spare me the “who is going to adopt all the disabled kids” myth-gument…homosexuals are looking for the same thing that normal couples are looking for — healthy babies. There is no evidence that homosexuals are picking up the slack and “doing the jobs most Americans won’t do.” As a matter of fact, some go even further and try to create the “perfect” baby.
Instead of appealing for “marriage equality,” parents should talk about what it means to be barred from marriage. The term “discrimination” should be shelved and replaced with the more concrete idea of “hurting,” Olson told the parents in San Francisco.
Gee, that’s a great idea, public policy decisions made based on feelings, “hurt” feelings at that. “Hurting” is more “concrete” than “discrimination?” No, “hurting” is more accurate than “discrimination” because it’s all about emotion, and not at all about good public policy, constitutionality or rights. You know what, I feel reeeeeeeally bad that Michael Steele lost his Senate bid in Maryland. Shouldn’t we now overturn the election because I stomped my foot really hard when the returns came in?
If what they are talking about is how they are “hurt” financially, socially, etc. where does the blame deserve to be placed for that? Who created this situation? Who tragically brought children into this and knowingly subjected them to what was obviously, from the start, a disadvantageous situation? Now they want the entire country to bend to accommodate the disaster they’ve created? It’s like people who bankrupt themselves charging up six credits cards to the max starting a movement outlaw credit cards and have all the debt forgiven by government decree.
For a look into the impact on children raised by “gay parents,” read Lynn Vincent’s article, Experimental Kids.
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Well said! Gay parenting is a crock. The main message of the gay marriage movement is that gays absolutely, positively have to be with someone of the same sex. A gay guy can’t just date a masculine woman, he has to have another man. And this is all immutable, they say.
But when the topic turns to parenting, then the rigidity vanishes! The sex of one’s parents becomes completely irrelevant to the discussion.
Nonsense.
I’m sorry Glib, this post is nothing but an exercise in begging the question. You don’t like these people because you believe homosexuality is inherently wrong and they are harming these kids. Every one of your criticisms is implicitly based on that belief, so you haven’t demonstrated anything other than your already widely known opinion.
Yeah, that’s some serious hyperbole. I know you’re appalled by what these people believe, but there’s a major political party that supports their rights. I just don’t see how you can justify calling their beliefs “extreme.”
What does that mean? How do you stage a movement? Or more accurately, how would you not? Has there ever been a social movement that was purely spontaneous?
Sweet? On what did you base that adjective? I saw no description of the appearance, so I’m not sure how you could determine the “sweetness” of the appearance.
I’d love to hear you use the same cynicism when talking about groups who advocate things you support.
They had a strategy session to discuss talking points and a PR campaign. What lobbying group doesn’t do that?
Most of your post focuses on the “harm homosexuals cause their kids.” This is a very common criticism, so how should they respond? Saying “Look, the kids are happy as can be.” seems like a pretty natural option to me.
You’ve purposely chose deny your children a second father. Your statement rests entirely on your original assumption that homosexual parents can’t properly raise a child.
It’s a sad fact and it’s one of my goals to try and change it, but public policy is routinely made based on feelings. The Republicans use fear and hate. The Democrats use envy and victimization.
By “disadvantageous situation”, are you referring to the discrimination they’ll face or your belief that they’re worse off because they don’t have heterosexual parents?
The latter is obviously just another restatement of your thesis and the former is directly caused by those that think like you.
No it’s not. The hypothetical situation that you suggested would negatively those who know how to use credit effectively. Most of the things this group is advocating would have no direct impact on you. You oppose it only because you abhor their choices.
I’m not interested in subscribing, so I can’t read the entire thing. But, I can tell from the introductory paragraphs that it is a clear example of your side using childhood anecdotes to make a point. Frankly, I would prefer it if both sides just stuck to proper statistical analysis, but I know this is the real world. Don’t pretend you’re on some sort of moral high ground. Both sides are using every trick in the book.
Glib, what’s your point? Advocates of gay parenting rights are using marketing and pr
techniques no different from those on the right wing who repackage hate, intolerance
and prejudice as righteousness.
If your base point is simply that children are harmed by being raised in a same-sex
household, then you’re welcome to explain WHY–with some sort of empirical evidence, of course.
Some empirical evidence:
Children thrive in a stable two parent heterosexual households. Children are less likely
to be abused in a two parent hetero household. The children today are prime examples of why
single parent and homo households are complete failures. No offense to anyone but my
children are well behaved and respectful because my husband and I as parents have taught
them right from wrong and as such there are clear consequenes for wrongdoing or misbehavior.
The children in their schools from broken homes or unusual homes do not fair as well. We are
raising 8, soon to be nine children…as you say breeders(we are proud to be) our oldest will
be 16 in June….and it is unfortunate that we have had to teach our children that homosexual
parenting and relationships are just plain sick and wrong. We now teach our preschool age
children to ensure the schools have no effect upon them. We live in NEW JERSEY(home of the
sickos) so it has become necessary to start the teaching as young as three to counter the
effects of the schools. In the end, we as parents are the greatest influence on our children.
FYI homosexual men in disportionate number rape, molest and abuse boys and society is allowing
them greater opportunity by giving them adopted children to sexually assault. They make up
less then 3% of the population however, they are responsible for something like 46% of all
rapes and molestations of young boys….the number could be higher because of sure some of the
homo’s who abuse boys are unwilling to admit they are in fact homo.
Advice for parents teach your children before they enter school about homo’s including the
greater risk of STD’s, increased risk for aids, increased risk of sucide and drug abuse…..
the list is endless….educate your children before the public school gets a chance to.
Lynn, care to source that diatribe?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality
Father-son Relationships and Male Sexual Development
Investigation into parent-child relations of homosexual and heterosexual men is heavily documented in research literature, and a link between the absence of sufficient bonding with same-sex parent or role models and the development of adult male homosexuality has been proposed. Numerous studies have found that adult homosexual males tend to report having had less loving and more rejecting fathers than their heterosexual peers (Bell, Weinberg, & Parks, 1981; Bieber et al., 1962; Braatan & Darling, 1965; Brown, 1963; Evans, 1969; Jonas, 1944; Millic & Crowne, 1986; Nicolosi, 1991; Phelan, 1993; Saghir & Robins, 1973; Siegelman, 1974; Snortum, 1969; Socarides, 1978; West, 1959).
Bieber (1976) stated:
Since 1962 when our volume was published, I have interviewed about 1,000 male homosexuals and 50 pairs of parents of homosexuals. The classic pattern was present in more than 90% of cases. In my entire experience, I have never interviewed a single male homosexual who had a constructive, loving father. A son who has a loving father who respects him does not become a homosexual. I have concluded that there is a causal relationship between parental influence and sexual choice
If you would like me to continue I will however, if you do a little research yourself you
will find a wealth of information.
Did I do my link wrong? It isn’t showing up!
(Sorry Pam, I was late checking the filter that you were caught in.
Your link is posted.)
Lobo
Here is a touch of info….from wikipedia…in addition, having unnatural sex(that which goes against natural law) is also a part of it….gays want marriage to try to force their abnormal lifestyle on society…they are attempting to go after our children to force abnormal lifestyle on society…in the end parents will be a greater influence on their children then some freakish film trying to make wrong right….need I continue….
check out http://www.nonjgaymarriage.org and all those from NJ take a stand against the freaks and protect your children.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality
Father-son Relationships and Male Sexual Development
Investigation into parent-child relations of homosexual and heterosexual men is heavily documented in research literature, and a link between the absence of sufficient bonding with same-sex parent or role models and the development of adult male homosexuality has been proposed. Numerous studies have found that adult homosexual males tend to report having had less loving and more rejecting fathers than their heterosexual peers (Bell, Weinberg, & Parks, 1981; Bieber et al., 1962; Braatan & Darling, 1965; Brown, 1963; Evans, 1969; Jonas, 1944; Millic & Crowne, 1986; Nicolosi, 1991; Phelan, 1993; Saghir & Robins, 1973; Siegelman, 1974; Snortum, 1969; Socarides, 1978; West, 1959).
Bieber (1976) stated:
Since 1962 when our volume was published, I have interviewed about 1,000 male homosexuals and 50 pairs of parents of homosexuals. The classic pattern was present in more than 90% of cases. In my entire experience, I have never interviewed a single male homosexual who had a constructive, loving father. A son who has a loving father who respects him does not become a homosexual. I have concluded that there is a causal relationship between parental influence and sexual choice
– p. 368
Brian,
Homosexual Parenting: Placing Children at Risk
Homosexual Parenting Studies Are Flawed, Report Says
Homosexual Parents: ‘Hidden Study’ Uncovered
Experts Worldwide Find Gay Adoption Harmful for Children
Review of Research on Homosexual Parenting, Adoption, And Foster Parenting
Homosexual Parenting: Is It Time For Change?
Where Children Have No Voice: The”Right” of Adoption by Homosexual Partners
Dangers of Same-Sex Couples Adopting Children (Part 1)
Dangers of Same-Sex Couples Adopting Children (Part 2)
Children and homosexual adoption
Trophy children
The homosexual lifestyle is a dangerous lifestyle, as AIDS appears to discriminate against the homosexual. Checkout the following links from the Center for Disease Control.
Cases of HIV infection and AIDS in the United States and Dependent Areas, 2005
Cases of HIV Infection and AIDS in the United States, 2004
Cases of HIV Infection and AIDS in the United States, 2003
Human Immunodeficiency Virus (HIV) Risk, Prevention, and Testing Behaviors — United States, National HIV Behavioral Surveillance System: Men Who Have Sex with Men, November 2003–April 2005
HIV and Its Transmission
HIV/AIDS among Women
The next category, child abuse, is no stranger to controversy. What the links will tell you, and please read the data sources at each link, is that homosexuals commit a disproportionate number of child abuse cases. By no means do all homosexuals molest children. In fact the vast majority don’t and find the thought repulsive. Still, the reports demonstrate homosexuals commit a disproportionate number of child abuse cases. It’s disproportionate because male homosexuals represent 2.7% of the population yet they account for over 30% of molestation cases. Checkout the following links and their data sources.
‘Suffer the children’: ACLU continues its war on kids
Study Finds Disproportionate Percentage of Illinois Foster Child Abuse is Same Sex
Federal Panel Ignores Sex Abuse
Child sex offenders becoming bigger and bigger problem
Foster father pleads guilty to child rape, victims sue state
Phoenix Police Arrest Two Men in Child Porn Case
Molestations by homosexual foster parents: newspaper accounts vs official records
Myth and Reality about Homosexuality: Child Abuse
Myth and Reality about Homosexuality–Sexual Orientation Section, Guide to Family Issues
An Outrage, Pure and Simple!
Child Molestation and Homosexuality
Homosexual Rape and Murder of Children
Study shows link between homosexuality and pedophilia
A REAL Child Abuse Scandal
Homosexuality and Child Sexual Abuse
Gay Foster Parents More Apt to Molest
Homosexuality and child molestation: the link, the likelihood, the lasting effects
BS, that wasn’t a nice try, that was 30 minutes.
I have enough links, sources and info to fry your gourd.
The only problem is it isn’t liberal, homosexual, revisionist propaganda. Therefor, not acceptable to you.
Not at all, lobo. Just has to be peer-reviewed and within the past decade.
Out of curiosity, though, did you have your mind made up on homosexuality before or after you came across this research?
1. This is a news and info and activist blog, not a University science dept. Most of what I gave you is 21st century.
It is apparently good enough for you to call “research”.
2. My mind was made up 50 years ago while still a Liberal. When Liberalism was just that and not the Socialism/Marxism they are trying to pass off as liberalism today.
Lynn, first off, your sources are out of date. You also ignore
current research which indicates that children raised in stable
same-sex households are just as well-adjusted and happy as their
counterparts in opposite-sex households–and are no more likely
to turn out gay themselves.
(Oh, you didn’t hear the news? That homosexuality is innate, and
if a child isn’t already gay, no amount of outside “influence”
will make them so.)
Nor does any evidence from any reputable law-enforcement or
social service agency bear up your argument that gay men disproportionately
abuse children. Check the FBI statistics that indicate that the
vast majority of child abuse is heterosexual in nature–quite often
from in-home fathers you seem to think are so beneficial.
And the old canard that we are somehow “forcing” ourselves on
society, and on children, doesn’t wash, logically. A gay married
couple need have no impact on your life whatsoever, should you not
wish it to. It’s called “live and let live” and “equality under
the law.”
Gary–
Care to cite any sources?
You have made several assertions that require documentation.