ACLU Launches Nationwide Action Against NSA’s Efforts
Posted on May 24, 2006
Hat tip: Pretend Pundit Via ACLU Website:
Responding to reports that phone companies are turning over private details about Americans’ telephone calls to the National Security Agency, the American Civil Liberties Union today launched a nationwide initiative to end illegal government spying.
ACLU affiliates in 20 states today filed complaints with Public Utility Commissions or sent letters to state Attorneys General and other officials demanding investigations into whether local telecommunications companies allowed the NSA to spy on their customers.
“We cannot sit by while the government and the phone companies collude in this massive, illegal and fundamentally unAmerican invasion of our privacy,” said ACLU Executive Director Anthony D. Romero. “And unfortunately, we cannot wait for Congress to act. The ACLU is mobilizing its members and supporters nationwide to demand investigations into this shocking breach of trust. And we are asking the FCC to use its authority to uncover the facts about how far the president’s illegal spying has gone. The American people want answers.”
True to form, Romero has twisted the facts of this case around to scare the unsuspecting liberal minded, apathetic imbecile who supports him and his anti-American organization. To this point, almost every legal scholar who has looked at the program has agreed that no laws have been broken.
Congressional leaders, including Dick “the dick with the turban” Durban have come out in favor of changing the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act to cover this type of operation. Each one has touted the benefits and necessities of this program for the national security of the United States and its people.
Democrats are approaching this from the oversight angle. That if the President was given authority to conduct this operation in just the same manner that it already has been, it would provide some oversight with teeth under which the President is less likely to abuse the power.
Republicans are approaching this from the stand point that the President needs this program and having it written into FISA would provide him with the tools to conduct it.
I agree with both actually. No matter who is in power, it is always possible for power to be abused. But as both parties have recognized the need for the program and both have expressed the need for it to continue, what is the ACLU’s beef?
I’ll tell you what their beef is. They are the perpetual fly in the ointment. If they aren’t causing trouble over each and every thing the federal government does, they feel as though they aren’t doing anything at all. After all, if they agreed with the stance the government takes, their significance would be non-existent.
This is a fund raising campaign. If they make a big enough stink about this, the apathetic morons will give them more money. If by chance they prevail in any one of these many lawsuits that they are planning, then they can circumvent the legislative process and again, they make money off the government.
The ACLU is listed as a non-profit organization. They claim to be non-partisan. But it seems awfully odd that the only members of Congress that are members of the ACLU are Democrats and that the ACLU publicly opposes almost every proposal sponsored by Republicans. And it seems awfully odd that each time they win a case, they take a larger cut of the settlement than their clients.
The ACLU feeds off the weak minded. They rely on the apathetic uninformed morons who fill out the little form and send it in with their $25 each year to get their little card in the mail so that they can go around saying that they are “card carrying members of the ACLU”. If these people had half the intelligence that they claim to have, they would look into the dealings of the ACLU and come to the same conclusions that we have. That their actual goal is the destruction of the United States as we know it.
President Bush and other administration officials have neither confirmed nor denied a USA Today report that the NSA is collecting the calling records of ordinary Americans in its effort to detect the plans of al-Qaida and other terrorist organizations.
Bush has said the administration’s anti-terror surveillance programs are legal and constitutional.
The ACLU was planning to file actions with state utility commissions in Arizona, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Iowa, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Tennessee, Texas, Vermont, Virginia and Washington. Other states were expected to be added later. Source
So the ACLU will sue these companies for helping our government to detect terrorists? All the while, the ACLU has a massive database of its own members, their financial information, and much more private details than the NSA could ever hope for.
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To this point, each and every legal scholar who has looked at the program has agreed that no laws have been broken.
Take a look at these posts from The Volokh Conspiracy. George Washington University Law Professor Orin Kerr doesn’t appear to conclude that no laws have been broken.
the ACLU publicly opposes any proposal sponsored by Republicans.
That’s a lie. Here’s just one example that disproves your statement. The ACLU of Ohio supported House Bill 56, sponsored by Rep. Jim Raussen (R-Ohio 28)
I am more concerned about my private information that the bank gives out since that can allow identity theft.
“Take a look at these posts from The Volokh Conspiracy. George Washington University Law Professor Orin Kerr doesn’t appear to conclude that no laws have been broken.”
I guess that proves it then. He must have evidence that Congress doesn’t.
Jason, you can attempt to cherry pick all you want. The overwhelming evidence is to the contrary. It would figure, that a moron like you from the city which elected not only Stephanie Tubbs-Jones and Sharod Brown to the House, but Dennis Kucinich too?!? Don’t you remember what he did to Cleveland when he was Mayor?!? Ah duh… he put our city into default, why let’s elect him to the US House so he can vote on appropriations at the federal level. That makes about as much sense as putting Rep. William Jefferson in charge of the Ehtics Committee.
“The overwhelming evidence is to the contrary.”
Yo, Gribbit… wake up.
Your buddy Jay didn’t make a claim about “overwhelming evidence”. He said simply, and I quote:
“To this point, each and every legal scholar who has looked at the program has agreed that no laws have been broken.”
That statement is absolutely false. (Never mind that Jay did not bother to preset one speck of “evidence” for it.) Calling someone a ‘moron’ simply demonstrates how empty your arguments are.
Jay Stephenson lied, pure and simple.
Dear cherry pickers, in case you come back I have modified the post to be more accurate and pleasing to you. Meatbrain, I have been quite tolerant with you. You have done it in the past, and it will end now. You can call me names all you want, and tout your moonbat talking points, but I will NOT tolerate being called a liar. If there is one thing I can not stand it is a liar, and I will not put up with some brainless twit accusing me of that. This is my site, and I do reserve the right to ban anyone I want to. Meatbrain is getting very close to the line. Don’t cross it. I allow a lot of things to go on in the comments. We need to keep the conversation civil if it is to foster debate. The name calling and accusations need to stop.
And just for the sake of meathead, for your information… I wrote that you POS… This thread was a joint effort. And you are a moron.
And you need to learn to write, the word is present, not preset. Where did you go to school, ACLU elementary, I bet you got expelled in the first grade and are your families scholar. Do you want to play? Do you? Come out and play. Because you POS, I’m not in the mood today.
Oh… and just so everyone here knows… Meat for brains “link” is invalid. Hey meat for brains… are you afraid to receive what you come here an go to The Wide Awakes to dish out? How is it that you can spill your venom here but you can’t invite us to do the same? Are you chicken? Are you a girly man?
Typical liberal… no substance.
You came here, called Jay a liar which since I wrote that part, you were actually calling me a liar. And only a moron would come here to make an argument without the stones to back it up with contradictory facts. So do you really want to play? Do you. You are out witted, out smarted, out classed, and generally out done in every way by the cast of talant that writes here.
I choose to use the word moron because it adiquately describes each and every idiot who actually defends or contributes to the ACLU. Only a brain dead imbecile would give them money. And before you argue against me on that point, start reading. Do the research, because if I have to go through the 86 years of facts that I have in the past, there will be some blacklisting going on today.
He does have a site, cuz he’s sent trackbacks before. No one reads it though.
Actually, since meatbrain said Jay lied, when actually Gribbit wrote the post, that makes meatbrain the liar. I also notice meatbrain doesn’t practice what he preaches and didn’t provide any valid sources to go along with his stupid assertions.
Thanks apostle, I was beginning to wonder if I missed something when I read his non-rebuttle.
Is there any chance that meat for brains is actually Al Franken? He’s famous for calling everyone and their mother in law a liar.
“And you need to learn to write, the word is present, not preset.”
I tell you, irony meters have a short lifespan ’round these parts.
“moron like you from the city which…”
That would be “who,” not “which.”
“…Ehtics Committee.”
The word is ethics, not ehtics.
“I bet you got expelled in the first grade and are your families scholar…”
The phrase is “family’s scholar,” not “families scholar.”
“Meat for brains ‘link’ is invalid.”
The phrase you want is “Meat-for-brains’ ‘link’ is invalid.”
“…what you come here an go to…”
You want “what you come here and go to…”
“You are out witted, out smarted, out classed, and generally out done in every way by the cast of talant that writes here.”
This is EASILY my favorite. “Outwitted,” “outclassed,” and “outdone” are each one word, and “talant” isn’t a word at all (no help from the big kids this time on the correct word, Gribbit).
“…adiquately describes..”
That’s “adequately.”
I’m not surprised you good people would threaten meatbrain with a ban despite his having done nothing but civilly disagree with you and accurately point out examples of your dishonesty or lack of understanding. Meanwhile, Gribbit the grammar impresario refers to meatbrain variously as a POS, a moron, a girly man, and more, all while posting absolutely nothing germane to the topic. Sure, it’s your site and you can do what you want, but do you want to be forever considered a hysterical joke by the educated and literate of society?
As for whoever wrote this gem (re. the ACLU):
“If they aren’t causing trouble over each and every thing the federal government does, they feel as though they aren’t doing anything at all.”
Yes, that must be it. The members of the ACLU simply wish to make life as uncomfortable as possible for everyone in America, including themselves. The idea that the organization actually strives to guarantee adherence to the U.S. Conctitution for purposes of protecting citizens’ civil liberties — even those of ranting and raving zombie-heads too stupid to manage their own lives (no names mentioned) — is simply beyond recognition.
Those sick of this place’s puerile diatribes and interested in a scholarly examination of the more legalities involved in this matter should visit Ed Brayton’s blog at http://scienceblogs.com/dispatches/. Granted, some of you may burst into flames and turn to dust when presented with actual facts — from a conservative, no less — but give it a whirl.
“To this point, almost every legal scholar who has looked at the program has agreed that no laws have been broken.”
Not quite.
“I’m not surprised you good people would threaten meatbrain with a ban despite his having done nothing but civilly disagree with you and accurately point out examples of your dishonesty or lack of understanding.”
Actually as has been pointed out above, meat-for-brains is the one who lied. Try to be objective.
“but do you want to be forever considered a hysterical joke by the educated and literate of society?”
You mean like the morons who spend all of their waking moments blogging on a site they can’t stand, blogging ABOUT a site they can’t stand, all the while convincing himself he actually has a life?
“The idea that the organization actually strives to guarantee adherence to the U.S. Conctitution for purposes of protecting citizens’ civil liberties”
Even those civil liberties that we can’t find listed in the Constitution anywhere…
“. The members of the ACLU simply wish to make life as uncomfortable as possible for everyone in America, including themselves.”
I fail to see another explanation as it has yet to have been proven that anyone’s civil liberties have been violated in this case. Maybe you have information that Congress doesn’t?
“You mean like the morons who spend all of their waking moments blogging on a site they can’t stand, blogging ABOUT a site they can’t stand, all the while convincing himself he actually has a life?”
Hey, we all need diversions. I spend less time with this and my blog than you think — I know it would take *you* half the day to create a 500-word essay, but this isn’t true of literate folks.
Besides, I’m not the one who thinks he’s actually going to take down an organization with an annual endowment of several hundred million dollars through “blogbursts” written in pidgin English and links to “articles” “written” by fellow nuttycakes.
“I spend less time with this and my blog than you think”
Given how wrong you are sometimes, I believe it.
Well, I was going to post something meaningful, but nevermind. This blog is fine the way it is.
“Hey, we all need diversions. I spend less time with this and my blog than you think”
Which is evident in every lame brain response you post.
Brilliant, apostle.
You: “YA SPEND EVERY WAKING MOMENT ON HERE, DONCHA!”
Me: “No, I don’t. It’s pretty easy to–”
You: “YAH! I CAN TELL, ‘CUZ YOUZE STUFF SUCKS!”
Guess you can’t please some people no matter what.
Brain: I thought about doing a point-by-point correction to Gribbit’s spelling and grammar, but I guess you beat me to it. He really set you up for that one. Alley-oop!
Ya think he’d get upset if you did this for every piece he writes?
Captain and Brainless: If the two of you butt-buddies are done fondling each other, maybe you can get to the part where you have something of value to contribute? Like evidence of something other than your stupidity? Don’t get me wrong, if pointing out someone’s spelling errors somehow makes you feel better about your own inadequacies by all means go for it. I’m just wondering if we shouldn’t leave you two alone for a while.
If Jay dislikes being called a liar, there is a simple solution: He can stop posting obviously false claims on his site. He might also consider citing some evidence for his assertions. After all the effort he has expended, he still has not cited one single “legal scholar” who “has agreed that no laws have been broken”.
Gribbit has just discovered that he who lives as a spelling queen, dies as a spelling queen. I do hope he’s comfortable, way up there on his own petard.
“We need to keep the conversation civil if it is to foster debate. The name calling and accusations need to stop.”
And Jay follows this up by posting a “liberal idiot” cartoon, claiming that I created it as a self-portrait. He was therefore clearly lying when he claimed he wanted the “name calling… to stop”. The claim that this is my self-portrait is also an obvious lie. A quick search at Google Images traces this image back to a post made last October at a blog called Moonbattery.
“Actually, since meatbrain said Jay lied, when actually Gribbit wrote the post, that makes meatbrain the liar.”
When I left my initial comment yesterday, the only byline on the post was ‘by Jay’ at the top. The line “This post was written by Jay and Gribbit” was added later, apparently to enable ‘apostle’ to “discover” that I had “lied”. Nice try, guys.
“Don’t get me wrong, if pointing out someone’s spelling errors somehow makes you feel better about your own inadequacies by all means go for it.”
‘apostle” is still clearly irony-impaired, since it was Gribbit who posted his spelling flame first. ‘apostle’, would it be safe to assume that you are also now aware of Gribbit’s inadequacies?
“Captain and Brainless: If the two of you butt-buddies are done fondling each other, maybe you can get to the part where you have something of value to contribute?”
Something of value like calling others dumb homosexuals while not addressing the primary topic? Sure, I’ll get right on that. I could start by trying to stifle a laugh at some of the eye-opening ridiculousness on the blog you linked to, especially the part about how the Bible contains no contradictions if you read it “in context.” It’s stuff like this which, though it gets me howling, also makes me feel a bit like a bully for jumping all over people whose cognitive impairments have left them genuinely defenseless.
I can’t decide if this blog will get better or even worse after the November congressional housecleaning. Everyone here will certainly have all the more reason to play the victim card, yet it will also have become that much more evident that thinking America isn’t sympatico with the “ideas” so popular among the downtrodden crazyflakes haunting the place. We’ll see.
“Something of value like calling others dumb homosexuals while not addressing the primary topic?”
We did address the topic. You didn’t. That is the point.
“I could start by trying to stifle a laugh at some of the eye-opening ridiculousness on the blog you linked to, especially the part about how the Bible contains no contradictions if you read it “in context.”
Go ahead and try. I’ll be happy to run circles around you as I do everyone who claims that ridiculous nonsense.
“Everyone here will certainly have all the more reason to play the victim card,”
I thought you weren’t a liberal? By the way, if you think Dems are going to retake Congress, you are smoking crack. But at least that would explain a lot.
“When I left my initial comment yesterday, the only byline on the post was ‘by Jay’ at the top. The line “This post was written by Jay and Gribbit” was added later, apparently to enable ‘apostle’ to “discover” that I had “lied”. Nice try, guys.”
Yeah, sure. It was a conspiracy between the three of us. By the way, I’d like to remind you that since you keep calling Jay a liar, you have yet to show any evidence of this. Around here we need proof of such things. This isn’t Brainless’s blog, where you just flap your gums and TELL people how smart you are, thinking someone might actually believe it.