The Day of The Martyr: Martin Luther King Jr.

Posted on January 16, 2006

UPDATE: ACLU Uses MLK In Full Page Ad To Bash Bush Compares King To Terror Suspects!
The Martyr“If physical death is the price I must pay to free my brothers and sisters from the permanent death of the spirit, then nothing could be more redemptive. “~ Martin Luther King Jr.

The legacy of the modern day prophet and martyr, Martin Luther King Jr.

Martin Luther King Jr. was raised in Atlanta, Georgia as the son and grandson of Baptist ministers. King had deep roots in the Christian faith, and in 1954 he became pastor of a Baptist church in Montgomery, Alabama. He later became a pastor at Ebenezer Baptist church in Atlanta, where he bravely led the civil rights movement for social change, and always through non-violent protest. In 1957 he became president of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference (SCLC) which sought to register African-American voters and to desegregate public accommodations. He led many marches and protests to bring to the Nation’s attention the need for racial equality and justice. On April 4, 1968, he was assassinated in Memphis, Tennessee. His birthday became a national holiday in 1986.

Today should be a day that all Americans celebrate and honor the life and efforts of a true American hero, and put aside partisan differences. Sadly this is not the case. No, today is not a “black holiday”, yet many liberals try to turn it into a white guilt day. The truth is, that while liberal special interest groups, like the ACLU, using the day to further their agendas, many of their overboard causes would have most likely not been supported by Dr. King. Despite revisionists, King did not use the tactics of partisan hate, he called the Nation to a common dream. They should be reminded that, the Civil Rights act of 1964 was passed by Republicans, over fierce Democratic opposition–including a filibuster by Robert Byrd, former KKK leader who is still in the Senate.

Bill O’Reilly says it well:

Dr. King would be appalled by the secular culture, the attacks on Christmas, the demonizing of Christianity. By the way, where’s the ACLU and other pinheads when Martin Luther King’s picture is displayed on public property? He openly advocated the philosophy of Jesus and proudly declared himself a Christian. What say you, ACLU? Dr. King yes, the creche no? Think about it…

The question is why has a leader like Dr. King not emerged since his death? Jesse Jackson wanted the mantle, but his turned into a quest for money and an obsession with liberal politics.

No one else commands the respect that Martin Luther King did, even after 37 years. King could have easily embraced violence. His own house was bombed. He was stabbed in the chest here in New York City. But the man turned the other cheek time and time again.

It is far easier, as everybody knows, to answer violence with violence than to practice the self-control Dr. King did. He truly walked the walk.

Americans should recognize true heroes when they see them. And most of us do. You don’t have to agree with everything Dr. King espoused, but his overall demeanor and philosophy puts him in the hero category. Today, the USA badly needs another Martin Luther King, Jr. — Pray one comes along.

Yes, the truth is that the ACLU of the 60’s were instrumental in the civil rights movement, and we applaud them for it. Yet today’s ACLU stands radically far from the sincere and noble goals of Martin Luther King Jr. Even the ACLU, until the 1970s, was opposed to so-called “homosexual rights.” This is one thing the ACLU tries to equate to the struggle of racial equality in the 60’s. Dr. King’s views were nowhere close to that of today’s ACLU.

For a time in the late 1950s King wrote a column that apparently was intended for publication in a religious newsletter or magazine. This column was called “Advice for Living” and several editions are printed in King’s collected papers. One issue in particular is germane here, dated January
1958. It is in this column that King makes his views about homosexuality as clear as anyone might want -without ever once using the word “homosexual” -or even a euphemism.

The format of the column was Question and Answer. A young man had written to King, apparently someone in his teens. The writer said that he had a serious problem. He was not attracted to girls; instead he wasattracted sexually to boys. He knew this was wrong and asked for help.

King expressed the view that the young man’s feelings were probably acquired culturally -through others who he associated with, apparently- and also through some kind of traumatic experience he had early in his childhood. That is, King was analyzing the problem more-or-less in psychoanalytic terms.

But, said King, there is real hope. Admitting that these feelings are wrong is the first step and perhaps the most important step in the process of overcoming this affliction. Being honest with one’s self, in other words, is a crucial part of making oneself psychologically healthy again -or even
really healthy for the first time.research source

King’s political goals of true equality was greatly benefited by the involvment of his Church. Today’s ACLU, would be opposed to this.

Martin Luther King Jr. was a true hero of civil rights in America, unlike today’s ACLU. Dr. King spoke the immortal words that he dreamed of a time when people would no longer be judged by “the color of their skin” but by “the content of their character.” Today’s black leaders like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, and the ACLU’s goals are far from that. They no longer demand equal treatment, but for racial quotas, and special benefits, based on the color of their skin. You can not cure racism with more racism.

Thomas Sowell, a black columnist, put it well in a 2001 article:

Another constituency whose interests trump those of blacks are groups like the American Civil Liberties Union, whose ideology favors the kinds of liberal judges who make it hard to control disruptive students in school or to keep violent criminals behind bars.

A handful of hoodlums can prevent a whole class from learning and a handful of criminals can make a ghetto neighborhood a hell to live in. But what the ACLU wants trumps what blacks need.

What is vital to the interests of black “leaders” and the Democratic Party is to keep blacks paranoid and dependent. For that, everything must be blamed on “racism.”

The words of another political giant in today’s times comes to mind:

“So long as the Negro leaders were fighting against government-enforced discrimination-right, justice and morality were on their side. But that is not what they are fighting any longer…Instead of fighting against racial discrimination, they are demanding that racial discrimination be legalized and enforced. Instead of fighting against racism, they are demanding the establishment of racial quotas. Instead of fighting for ‘color-blindness’ in social and economic issues, they are proclaiming that ‘color-blindness’ is evil and that ‘color’ should be made a primary consideration. Instead of fighting for equal rights, they are demanding special race privileges.”~ Ayn Rand

Dr. King could have played the politics of hate, blame and envy like today’s supposed civil rights leaders, but instead he talked of a common destiny, a brotherhood of man, and a free nation under God. He was a man who believed in true civil liberties. Yes, he had many liberal ideas, and late in his life he even had a few radical ideas we disagree with, but Dr. King is most likely rolling in his grave over how far the radicals of today’s civil rights groups have gone. Perhaps Dr. King’s famous speech was plagiarized, yet that does not take away the passion he believed in, and the impact it made. What should truly be honored above the courage of the man, is the essense of his dream. The ACLU of today’s agenda is a far cry from that of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., and in many cases a far cry from liberty itself. Lets hope that radicals disrespectfully wearing his mantal don’t kill his immortal dream.

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40 Responses to “The Day of The Martyr: Martin Luther King Jr.”

  1. psy_guy on January 16th, 2006 1:27 am

    That was so well said and it summed up everything I’ve been thinking about lately. It’s validating to see other right-minded people who are viewing MLK day in this light.

    Well said and well done!

  2. Christopher K. Leavitt on January 16th, 2006 2:16 am

    I’m glad to be able to view the STOP site again! “Free at last” from runtime errors!

    Great post to a great leader, by the way.

  3. DrLaniac on January 16th, 2006 8:37 am

    Oh, please. Quoting Bill O’Reilly in an article on Martin Luther King, Jr. Claiming the Republicans were responsible for civil rights legislation. Thanks for the bizarro world detour.

    You forgot to mention that the civil rights legislation you cite became the inspiration for the Republican “Southern Strategy” to peel southern whites away from the Democratic Party by exploiting bigotry and the backlash from that very legislation. The Dixiecrats, the Democrats who opposed the legislation became Republicans as well.

    And, lest you forget, Dr. King had a powerful message of economic justice as well as the anti-segregation message. He called for an end to poverty and a more just distribution of wealth:

    “You can use your powerful economic resources to wipe poverty from the face of the earth. God never intended for one group of people to live in superfluous inordinate wealth, while others live in abject deadening poverty. God intends for all of his children to have the basic necessities of life, and he has left in this universe ‘enough and to spare’ for that purpose. So I call upon you to bridge the gulf between abject poverty and superfluous wealth.”

    He opposed the war in Vietnam and he would have opposed the war in Iraq, if here were alive today.

    Your “heartwarming” memorial asks we put aside partisanship to remember Martin Luther King, then without skipping a beat, dives in to a series of partisan points and attempting to co-opt his message.

    Kanye West got off a comment on national TV a couple of months ago. “George Bush doesn’t care about black people.” No, he doesn’t, nor does the GOP. But more than that, they don’t care about anyone except the top couple of percent and the business interests that bankroll the party. They don’t even care about the religious right, except in the sense they wish to exploit “God, guns and gays” to get votes.

    The Republican Party is busy looting the treasury and instituting a reverse Robin Hood approach to economics. If Martin Luther King, Jr. were alive today, he would be speaking out about this injustice, as he was 38 years ago.

  4. Tommy on January 16th, 2006 9:51 am

    It’s a shame to see how MLK is being exploited by the radical left. He deserved better.

  5. apostle on January 16th, 2006 10:21 am

    “Claiming the Republicans were responsible for civil rights legislation. Thanks for the bizarro world detour”

    Ever heard of Abraham Lincoln? The Civil War that ended slavery?

    “God intends for all of his children to have the basic necessities of life,”

    He does, and asks that we work for them, not let one group work their butts off from day one only to have the government take it from them and redistribute it to those that did not work is hard. Everyone has the same opportunity in America whether white or black despite liberals’ ridiculous claims to the contrary. God loves a cheerful giver, not government mandated equal profit sharing. They call that communism friend. This is America, a capitalistic society.

    “George Bush doesn’t care about black people.”

    No, and neither do I. I care about people. The fact that Democrats split people up into different groups the way they do is evidence of their racism. Racism constitutes BET, Black History Month, and the NAACP. If I funded a channel that openly dedicated its entertainment to whites only, the ACLU would shut me down before you could bat an eye.

    “The Republican Party is busy looting the treasury and instituting a reverse Robin Hood approach to economics.”

    Towing the party line I see. Rich people pay more tax, and so get bigger returns, and you feel that a grave injustice. I never made more than $10,000 a year but always did fine. (healthcare, nice apartment, no welfare needed)I guess you think Dems could do a better job, even though they are not the least bit interested in helping anyone out of poverty. If they did, they wouldn’t get any votes.

  6. DrLaniac on January 16th, 2006 10:53 am

    Ha! Abraham Lincoln! You have to go back 145 years to find your example. And your attempt to paint me as a communist because I point out the GOP upward redistribution of wealth is nothing if not expected.

    Poverty goes up under Republican’s because that’s their policy. It goes down under Democrats, because they actually do care about poverty. If you want to call me a communist again, have at it.

  7. Pappy on January 16th, 2006 11:38 am

    Looks as if some people commenting are too young to know who pushed through all of the civil right laws during King’s time. I seem to remember the south was heavy with democrats and was against the movement. As far as DrLaniac statement abut poverty going down under the Democrats is because of the lazy non working bums drawing welfare.

  8. spike on January 16th, 2006 12:51 pm

    This is too rich. The current Republican party taking credit for civil rights when it is clear that the current Republican party is controlled almost entirely by the descendents of the Dixiecrats of the ’40s, ’50s, and ’60s.

    Strom Thurmond was a Democrat until he realized he couldn’t be a card-carrying racist in the Democratic party anymore, so he switched to being a Republican where he was welcomed with open arms by Nixon and his “Southern Strategy”. When LBJ signed the Civil Rights Act of 1964, he said “I have just delivered the South to the Republican party for a generation or more”. Prophetic words.

    If the Republicans are all about integration and civil rights, then why did Ken Mehlman openly admit that the Republican party has used race baiting to win elections over the course of the last several decades?

    Y’all are distorting reality and changing history so you can pretend you were on the right side all along. And in 40 years, you’ll look as bigoted for your stance on gay rights as your parents do for their stance on civil rights in the ’60s.

  9. Where's my Haldol? on January 16th, 2006 1:08 pm

    “The truth is, that while liberal special interest groups, like the ACLU, using the day to further their agendas, many of their overboard causes would have most likely not been supported by Dr. King.”

    But you’re above that sort of thing, of course, so you’d never capitalize on MLK’s name in order to further your own agenda by taking another swipe at the ACLU and liberals.

    THINK!

    If you really cared about King’s fundamental message, you would have tabled your rhetoric for once, then jumped back into your aimless blogsmanship tomorrow.

  10. J.M. on January 16th, 2006 1:10 pm

    Again, we have to hear the crack smoking right wing pundits try to justify their misguided ideology.

    such a shame, when the facts are so much better.

    Your republican party would not exist in the form it does today if the Old bigoted Dixicrates hadn’t all become racist repulicans.

    Oh by the way, how so very creative to get that idiot Oreilly involved. Took some real talent on the writers part.

  11. apostle on January 16th, 2006 1:11 pm

    “And your attempt to paint me as a communist because I point out the GOP upward redistribution of wealth is nothing if not expected”

    No. I paint you as a communist because by the tone of your post, you’d fully condone the government stealing money from the evil rich who committed the crime of being successful, in order to give money to a 38 year old flake who is at this very instant sitting on his behind, unemployed, going to the mailbox every morning to get his benefits, smoking a bowl while complaining that the evil rich have stolen all of his opportunities. This is America, and it is the American dream to pursue life, liberty, and happiness. (pretty sure I read that somewhere. Original contained “property” as well)

    “If the Republicans are all about integration and civil rights, then why did Ken Mehlman openly admit that the Republican party has used race baiting to win elections over the course of the last several decades”

    You’re kidding right? You base the entirety of your post on that statement? Just because the Republicans don’t play the race card every time something happens, doesn’t mean they don’t stand for civil rights, which by the way, has nothing to do with gay marriage if that is where you are going with it. I fail to see how the left stands for any kind of civil or even human rights when they are all perfectly willing to stand by while we get blown up and also feel very noble about signing our freedom away to the U.N, who contribute nothing more to this planet than oil for food scandals and gang rape of little girls.

    “Poverty goes up under Republican’s because that’s their policy. It goes down under Democrats, because they actually do care about poverty”

    Which is why our unemployment rate is currently the lowest ever since before Clinton was in office who by the way, was a Democrat that spent tax payer dollars covering up the affair he was having, then proceeded to steal all of the tax-bought furniture out of the White House to furnish the most expensive sweet in NYC. Way to look out for the poor little guy Dems. I guess Republicans should just hand out money rather than get people jobs, which Bush has done despite the army of libs that appeared out of nowhere screaming about regression as soon as Bush swore in.

  12. spike on January 16th, 2006 1:20 pm

    Right. Thanks for making an argument about self-defense. That is what sickens me most about Republicans trying to co-opt King’s message. In fact, saying that we should put aside our partisan differences and honor King today is right in a sense. That’s because he would be disgusted by both parties equally.

    But it’s especially ridiculous for Republicans to be claiming MLK as their own. Most of his ideologies, from income redistribution to nonviolent resistance to a person-based society instead of a wealth-based society are completely anathema to the Republican party and most of the posters on here who are supposedly in favor of him.

    At least have the courage of your convictions enough to say that you think King was a pinko and a weakling and that if we followed his policies, we’d all be speaking Arabic within 5 years. But know, you know that would never fly, so today you pretend that you agree with everything he stood for, though tomorrow you’ll go back to railing against everything he stood for.

  13. Pete on January 16th, 2006 1:53 pm

    One of the most controversial issues of the past year, apart from civil rights, was the question of school prayer, which has been ruled unlawful by the Supreme Court. Governor Wallace, among others, has denounced the decision. How do you feel about it?

    MARTIN LUTHER KING: I endorse it. I think it was correct. Contrary to what many have said, it sought to outlaw neither prayer nor belief in God. In a pluralistic society such as ours, who is to determine what prayer shall be spoken, and by whom? Legally, constitutionally or otherwise, the state certainly has no such right. I am strongly opposed to the efforts that have been made to nullify the decision.

  14. Malangali on January 16th, 2006 1:55 pm

    Dr. King’s message throughout his life was one of love and understanding for all humans.

    The Republicon party’s message for the past 40 years has increasingly been one of hatred and intolerance toward many humans. Exhibit A: The recent hysteria about so-called defense of marriage, which is an attack on our brothers and sisters who happen to have non-majoritarian hormonal leanings. Exhibit B: Recent government spying on non-fundamentalist religious groups such as the Quakers (google news “quaker spying” for all the latest). Exhibit C: The phony “war on Christmas” that has been trumped up to try to make non-wingnuts think their culture is under attack. Exhibit D: I could just go on and on and on…

    King would certainly have supported the Republican party in 1865. However, he would roundly condemn the con artists who control the GOP and the nation today for just about every action they have taken since the beginning of the Bush II regime.

    Shame on you for pretending otherwise. Either you know better and you are simply lying, or you are a brain-dead nitwit for whom King would have nothing but the deepest sympathy.

  15. Jay on January 16th, 2006 1:58 pm

    Ys, I belive I stated that in his later years he adopted some extreme ideas that I disagreed with. As for teacher lead prayer in a classroom, I agree with King. Voluntary prayer is another matter.

  16. Robert on January 16th, 2006 2:15 pm

    Thank God he’s dead!!

    If he were alive, the Right would distance themselves from him as a communist pariah.

    He’s in good company. They’d do the same to Jesus Christ if he were on Earth too.

  17. Suzie on January 16th, 2006 2:18 pm

    Glad you pointed these things out. I also linked to Gateway Pundit and agree with Bill O’Reily. Great Post!!

  18. actus on January 16th, 2006 5:02 pm

    “He openly advocated the philosophy of Jesus and proudly declared himself a Christian. What say you, ACLU? Dr. King yes, the creche no? Think about it…”

    What an idiot. Dr. King is not a religion.

  19. apostle on January 16th, 2006 5:02 pm

    ” Most of his ideologies, from income redistribution to nonviolent resistance to a person-based society instead of a wealth-based society are completely anathema to the Republican party and most of the posters on here who are supposedly in favor of him”

    And I would disagree with him. No one is claiming him as their own. You are claiming to know the mindset of all Republicans.

    “Dr. King’s message throughout his life was one of love and understanding for all humans.”

    Correct. As a Christian, that was his job, as it is mine. That does not constitute condoning everything in society.

    “recent hysteria about so-called defense of marriage, which is an attack on our brothers and sisters who happen to have non-majoritarian hormonal leanings.”

    If you think Dr. King condoned homosexuality just because he tolerated it, then you have a warped view of history. Not to mention the rampant abortion.

    “Exhibit B: Recent government spying on non-fundamentalist religious groups such as the Quakers”

    I missed the part in the Constitution where that was illegal.

    “The phony “war on Christmas” that has been trumped up to try to make non-wingnuts think their culture is under attack.”

    Taking “Christ” out of Christmas constitutes as a war on Christmas. The ACLU calling for the forcing of businesses to stop saying “Merry Christmas” even though it is a Christian holiday is a war on Christmas. Christmas is for Christians who celebrate Jesus. Nonbelievers are welcome to celebrate, but then they must TOLERATE its Christian basis.

    “If he were alive, the Right would distance themselves from him as a communist pariah.

    He’s in good company. They’d do the same to Jesus Christ if he were on Earth too.”

    Obviously not, since it is the right who are fighting so hard (and winning) to keep Christ apart of our society. Jesus by the way, is the farthest person from a communist ever. Better re-read the Bible, instead of picking out one or two versus in a cutesy attempt at turning the tables. Take a Gospels course.
    “The Republicon party’s message for the past 40 years has increasingly been one of hatred and intolerance toward many humans.”

    Its hilarious listening to liberal activists, who are the first to stand on someone’s lawn with picket signs, bottles ready to throw, complain about intolerance. When liberals tolerate anyone else’s opinion but their own then they can talk. Liberals are just mad that America doesn’t listen to their hate mongoring and scare tactics anymore. Tolerance? Tell that to Alito’s wife. Lot of class there.
    Hatred? Liberals who refer to our troops as “Ikemen,” Dems that call fellow politicians “faggots” on the floor of Congress. There is your hatred. Liberals who start their smear tactics the minute an honest American opposes them. Again, look at the way your party smears Alito. Why? Because their afraid he’ll stop the rampant baby-killing in America. “God forbid we should deny a mother’s right to kill their baby. Better get on the phone and smear Alito!” Take the plank out of your own eye.

  20. apostle on January 16th, 2006 5:07 pm

    I got a good post regarding more exploitation of Dr. King at my site over at http://christmatters.blogspot.com/

  21. kender on January 16th, 2006 5:14 pm

    My my my….what a load in this thread.

    Seems some of our little trolls have their panties in a wad today.

    I could care less who tries to “claim” King and the legacy, the truth of the matter is that the Dems are a party of racists, (pushed affirmative action, tried to get the civil war stopped and let slavery continue), that push policies that keep people in poverty (endless welfare takes away incentive to better oneself, and don’t give me clintons “reform”, he actually made it worse), and attempt to divide the country and appease ouir enemies at every turn.

    The democrats are cowards…they always have been, always will be.
    Look back in history….there is not ONE civilization that anyone would term “peaceful and pacifist” that survived. This si because their neighbors destroyed them and wiped away all trace of their existence, and that is where the U.S., (and freedom) will end up if the dems regain power.

    So you guys can rail about King all you want…..the fact is that the left is going down in flames, there is nothing you can do about it except cry, and we are striking up the band in anticipation of the spineless cowards ousting from any power or influence.

    So in the words of an Immortal American and Right Thinking Individual:

    Screw you guys

    I’m going home!!!

  22. Jay on January 16th, 2006 5:52 pm

    And I guess you think that Jesus would approve of the left’s prized philosophy of killing little babies, or the government stealing from the successful and redistributing it to the lazy, parasites and criminals of society?

  23. actus on January 16th, 2006 5:53 pm

    “They should be reminded that, the Civil Rights act of 1964 was passed by Republicans, over fierce Democratic opposition–including a filibuster by Robert Byrd, former KKK leader who is still in the Senate.”

    You should read the legislative history of that act someday, and see how instrumental the president was in passing it.

  24. speaksTHEtruth on January 16th, 2006 6:24 pm

    It is really sad that the media continues to hide the truth about Michael “Martin Luther” King. What’s worse is that the general public believes all that they hear about the so-called “prophet”. Perhaps it is because such a martyr is needed for such a cause, but I myself cannot stomach the lies. Michael King was not a bona-fide P.H.d, nor was he a certified Reverend, nor was he the saint that all make him out to be. He was a plagiarist, a whoremonger, and even a Communist. Do yourselves a favor, and stop worshipping a false idol, because really-the only people you are fooling are yourselves.
    Sources:

    1. The Papers of Martin Luther King, Jr.- - (an official publication of the Martin Luther King Center for Nonviolent Social Change).

    2. “King’s Plagiarism: Imitation, Insecurity and Transformation,” The Journal of American History, June 1991, p. 87) David J. Garrow

    3. New York Times” of October 11, 1991, page 15.

    4. “The FBI and Martin Luther King, Jr.”, David J. Garrow, (1981).

    5. “And the walls came tumbling down,” Rev. Ralph Abernathy (1989)

  25. Linoge on January 16th, 2006 6:41 pm

    Apologies for the buggy trackback… Please feel free to delete it. Evidently, when I link to “www.stoptheaclu.com” within the body of a post, it sends a trackback ping to the most recent post. Again, apologies.

  26. jcb on January 16th, 2006 7:15 pm

    As much as the Left and the ACLU are trying to get religion (Christianity) out of American politics, they’d be well served to remember that the Civil Rights movement was born out of Christian churches, nurtured in Christians churches, and ultimately succeeded with the help of Christian churches.

  27. Robert on January 16th, 2006 7:53 pm

    The Left kills babies? Or are you talking about abortion where no “born” baby has been killed.
    I’d love to see the census you take. Do you count pregnant women as 2 people?
    Could the U of Michigan Football stadium hold 200,000. It could with your new math. Just fill it with pregnant women.

    Are you now supporting those crazy hippies from SF that marched against the war?
    Weren’t they against the killing of innocent babies?

    They were called many names in the march up to the Iraq war. I think the best name for them is “Correct”.

    If you think Jesus would support a group of people that make it easier for the rich to get richer over helping the poor, you REALLY need to read the Bible.

    Jesus was a liberal!!
    Peace out!!

  28. apostle on January 16th, 2006 8:38 pm

    “You conservatives have such a bug up your bums about an organization like the ACLU. It’s so interested that you’re so threatened by a group that is dedicated to preserving the Constitution.”

    By ignoring it.

    “Just so we’re clear - would Jesus support the Death Penalty?

    Yes, He would, and does, just like His father did. Jesus spoke to individuals lives about revenge. The Bible as a whole tells us that world leaders are accountable to God to protect their people. God thinks execution is a pretty good idea. Also, see what Jesus plans to do to those who reject Him when He gets here.

    “How do you think Jesus would feel about bombing innocent civilians?”

    Not sure how that is relevant, since we don’t bomb civilians (at least on purpose)Though Dems seem content to let others bomb ours.

    “Do you think Jesus would like the fact that millions which could feed starving children, is instead lining defense contractors’ pockets?”

    Have the tin foil hat on extra tight I see. The millions that you are talking about are being held in the U.N. that you libs are so fond of. Ask them what they do with the money every year and take it up with them. Also, Jesus would never condone government forced charity like you are describing. If you know of starving children, YOU start writing checks, instead of trying to force others to do it for you. Charities, churches, (especially the church) and people that care are responsible for such things, not the government. Classic example of liberals wanting and needing the government to do everything for them.

    “The Christ you’re trying to keep in society, is a Christ of your own invention that does not come from the Bible.”

    Wrong. You, having obviously no knowledge at all of Biblical theology, took what is societies’ perception of Jesus’ character, based on one or two verses taken completley out of context, in a vain attempt at trying to reverse things.

    ” The Left kills babies? Or are you talking about abortion where no “born” baby has been killed”

    Yeah that is rich. Only liberals would feel they know when a person is a person. To Jesus however, a child is a child at conception, because Christ knows we are spiritual people.

    “Are you now supporting those crazy hippies from SF that marched against the war?
    Weren’t they against the killing of innocent babies?”

    Thanks for pointing out liberal hypocrisy. Bombing babies is bad, but gutting them before they make it out of the womb is perfectly humane. Everyone got that? Scraping the baby is fine. (Before any of you libs try to get smart by saying it doesn’t happen that way, especially in the first trimester, spare me. My wife had a miscarriage, and that is exactly what happened. I would also point out how infuriating it is to try for years to have a child while pregnant women who can’t keep their legs closed have abortion after abortion, all because libs like you tell them its acceptable.)

    “If you think Jesus would support a group of people that make it easier for the rich to get richer over helping the poor, you REALLY need to read the Bible.”

    I’m in Bible college as I write this genius. Jesus would not support people that make the rich get richer and the poor get poorer, and its a good thing we don’t have that in America. What we do have, is a capitalistic society where rich people should feel comfortable earning money without libs demanding they share it with people that chose not to compete. If you have financial problems, you fix them. Don’t blame the rich because they were more successful. Again, tin foil hats are on very tight today, all these conspiracy theories. And YOU my friend need to read the whole Bible if you think Jesus has issues with being rich.

  29. actus on January 16th, 2006 9:14 pm

    “Michael King was not a bona-fide P.H.d, nor was he a certified Reverend, nor was he the saint that all make him out to be. He was a plagiarist, a whoremonger, and even a Communist.”

    Every MLK day the wingnuts show their true colors.

  30. zen_less on January 17th, 2006 9:10 am

    You might ask your buddy Christopher Hitchens how he feels about the ACLU, since he has joined them in a lawsuit against the NSA. Or how your buddy Jerry Falwell felt about them when they helped him. Or your buddy Rush Limbaugh when they helped him. And I’m willing to bet that when the Bush administration starts abusing your rights (if they haven’t already, they will) you will go crying to the ACLU for help. That is, if they are still around to help.

  31. apostle on January 17th, 2006 4:44 pm

    “you will go crying to the ACLU for help”

    No. I’m educated enough to hire my own lawyers.

  32. peter on January 17th, 2006 4:44 pm

    What we do have, is a capitalistic society where rich people should feel comfortable earning money without libs demanding they share it with people that chose not to compete.

    Indeed.Go to the welfare office and tell that one. I just laid off 223 people who worked their [edited]
    off daily. They were warehouse employess. Low skill,living wage workers with a lot of strikes against them in life. They wanted to work. They will find work eventually. But they are us and they need our help for the interim. Let your politics reflect your humanity first and your checkbook second.

  33. apostle on January 17th, 2006 4:47 pm

    “Indeed.Go to the welfare office and tell that one. I just laid off 223 people who worked their [edited] off daily. They were warehouse employess. Low skill,living wage workers with a lot of strikes against them in life. They wanted to work. They will find work eventually. But they are us and they need our help for the interim. Let your politics reflect your humanity first and your checkbook second.”

    Been to the welfare office. Used to be on welfare. Worked real hard and managed to get off of it.

    “Let your politics reflect your humanity first and your checkbook second.”

    Practice what you preach. YOU laid them off.

  34. peter on January 17th, 2006 5:27 pm

    right. i am a mid level manager who does what he is told and prays he isn’t next. Hallelujah

  35. Robert on January 17th, 2006 7:40 pm

    Jesus was Liberal.

    And I love that Commie [edited]

  36. apostle on January 17th, 2006 10:44 pm

    “right. i am a mid level manager who does what he is told and prays he isn’t next. Hallelujah”

    According to you, those that have should give to the have-nots. You seem perfectly willing to let others pick up that tab.

    ” Jesus was Liberal.

    And I love that Commie ”

    “Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I came to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and a man’s enemies will be members of his own household.” (Matthew 10:34-36 NASB)

    Sure sounds like a liberal commie against division.

  37. Where's my Haldol? on January 18th, 2006 1:47 pm

    I think it’s self-evident that Jesus Christ, as traditionally understood, would find this post — titled “The Day of The Martyr: Martin Luther King Jr.” — along with the comments below it categorically repulsive. Jay simply has no shame.

  38. peter on January 19th, 2006 7:21 am

    sorry for the language. i respect that you want to keep comments above that.

  39. kara heyne on February 9th, 2006 11:28 am

    what made martin luther king start his work?

  40. kara heyne on February 9th, 2006 11:30 am

    can you hurry up and tell me plase!!!!!!!!!!