ACLU Lose Case Against Department of Homeland Security Over Muslims Being Questioned After Attending Radical Islam Conferences

Posted on December 22, 2005

Earlier this week we reported how theACLU took on the Department of Homeland Security over over detaining interrogating, fingerprinting and photographing American citizens at the border because they attended a radical Islamic conferences. These conferences had hailed Osama Bin Laden as a hero, and had been used in the past to provide cover for pro-terrorist operatives. Of course the fact that people returning from these radical indoctrinations might be a danger did not concern the ACLU. They were more concerned that some were actually held and questioned for an entire six hours.

Regardless, a common sense judge just slapped the ACLU down a few notches, and now they are whining on their website.

NEW YORK - In a case brought by the American Civil Liberties Union and the New York Civil Liberties Union, a federal judge in Buffalo, NY ruled today that the federal government can treat innocent American citizens as terrorists when returning to the United States from religious conferences, say the organizations.

“As this decision demonstrates, we now are reaching a point in this country where the ‘war on terrorism’ has turned into a war on the constitution,” said New York Civil Liberties Union Executive Director Donna Lieberman. “With the recent disclosures about government spying on political activity, we no longer can trust our government to respect our most cherished traditions, including our right to religious freedom.”

Maybe this is just me, but I would trust the government with my right to religious freedom any day over the ACLU. The ACLU seek nothing more than to censor Christianity. But as the saying goes, the ACLU doesn’t hate religion, just Christianity. I also trust the government’s information on terrorist ties before I would trust any of the ACLU’s spin. The ACLU are fighting our government’s efforts to fight terror, and defending the very enemies we are fighting. Why would anyone trust the ACLU’s word on any of this? Well, thank God, this judge had enough sense not to buy the lies of the ACLU.

The ACLU continue their spew…

Judge William Skretny dismissed the lawsuit brought on behalf of American citizens who were detained for up to six hours, interrogated, fingerprinted and photographed by border authorities when they returned from a large, mainstream Islamic conference that took place last December in Toronto, Canada. Under the ruling, the government is free to repeat its actions for this year’s conference, which is scheduled to start tomorrow.

“It is hard to believe that a court would dismiss what the government did to innocent Americans as simply ‘unfortunate and understandably frustrating.’ It is also fundamentally unconstitutional and we are confident that the appeals court will ultimately vindicate their fundamental rights,” continued Lieberman.

Noting that “[t]here is no information whatsoever to suggest, and the government does not contend, that plaintiffs are anything other than law-abiding American citizens,” the court nonetheless held that the government was free to treat all of the plaintiffs as potential terrorists because the government had intelligence suggesting that people involved in terrorism might be attending an Islamic conference like the Toronto conference.

Thank goodness, Judge William Skretny had some common sense, and ruled on the side of being cautious. Asking a few questions of people who decide to leave the country to listen to radical teachings of pro-terrorist activities is nothing but common sense, a virtue the ACLU are lacking. Here are a few examples of what the ACLU calls “mainstream.”

The two-day conference in January 2003 advertised Sheik Abdul Rahman Al-Sudais as the main speaker. The previous year, al-Sudais, the chief cleric of the Grand Mosque in Mecca, reportedly prayed to Allah to “terminate” the Jews whom he called “the scum of humanity, the rats of the world, prophet killers … pigs and monkeys.” The sheik also has characterized Jews as “evil,” “evil forefathers,” a “continuum of deceit,” and full of “tyranny” and “treachery.” Due to logistical problems, the sheik, the headliner of the event, missed the conference. Jeewan Chanicka, media relations director for the Toronto conference, called the sheik’s absence “unfortunate.”

The same conference featured Zulfiqar Ali Shah, the former president of the Islamic Circle of North America, an organization linked to Jama’at-I-Islami, a fundamentalist Pakistani group that calls bin Laden the “hero” of the Islamic world and raises millions of dollars for global jihad.

Mokhtar Maghroui, who spoke at an event featuring suicide-bombing supporters, also was a speaker at the last two RIS conferences.

The 2003 RIS conference featured William W. Baker, who was outed as a neo-Nazi by the Orange County Weekly.

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6 Responses to “ACLU Lose Case Against Department of Homeland Security Over Muslims Being Questioned After Attending Radical Islam Conferences”

  1. Beth on December 22nd, 2005 9:57 pm

    federal government can treat innocent American citizens as terrorists
    INNOCENT??? Oh, OK, since they haven’t YET been found guilty of murder or whatever, they’re pure as the undriven snow. Right.

    And what about the fact that the conference was held in Canada? If it’s such an “innocent” religious conference, why couldn’t they have it right here in the USA? Afraid of being accused of inciting violence or actually TERRORISM? What next, will jihadis returning to the US from overseas terrorist training camps in Islamic countries be considered “innocents” as well, and will the ACLU argue against THOSE people being questioned? Frankly, I don’t see how this conference itself was too far off from “terrorist training,” anyway.

    Why doesn’t the ACLU just change their name to the “Anti ‘CRUSADER’ Liberties Union”–that’s what they represent, after all, since we non-Muslims are “Crusaders.”

  2. Kevin Mark Smith on December 22nd, 2005 10:06 pm

    The ACLU won’t rest until we’re all married to same-sex partners, the White House is nuked by a suitcase bomb, and celebrating Christmas as Christ’s birthday is a capital crime.

  3. apostle on December 23rd, 2005 1:26 am

    Don’t forget baby-killing Kevin.

  4. Notta Libb on December 23rd, 2005 2:18 am

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  5. judy on December 23rd, 2005 2:58 am

    Does anyone else notice the irony of Donna Lieberman defending Islamists who not only call her a pig, but want to kill her and all the other Jews?

    Only a social-justice-obsessed Jew would do that.

  6. MB on January 4th, 2006 5:13 am

    So very bizarre. I can’t even write better satire, than ACLU’s reality. These stories make you want to shout, “Wake up, people!”
    (and that we shall -that we shall ;-)