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That kicks some serious liberal butt.
Homeschooled children learn both Darwinion evolution theories and opposing views.
Public schooled children learn only one point of view.
Who is the more highly educated?
Wow, this guy knows absolutely nothing about ID and evolution.
Wow, this guy knows absolutely nothing about ID and evolution. ID is not about relidgion, its about filling in the gaps of evolution. Really ID isn’t opposeing evolution at all, its just filling in the gaps. Evolution on the other hand does without the ‘intellegent designer’ and holds true to the teory that humans evolved purely through enviromental factors. However, it is still very possible to belive in both darwiniism AND religion because according to darwinism a creature evolves according to its enviroment all you have to do is plob your friendly god in charge of the enviroment and TADA he controls evolution. Of course you cant be an extreme fundementalist and belive in evolution, but then you cant belive in ID either.
This whole debate is entirely unnessasary. The only reason that the ID theory is getting so much opposition is that its crappy sience. Its nothing new, nothing revolutionary, its just crappy science so that some scxientists and preachers can get some airtime on TV.
However, Ive been thinking alot about intellegent design and some interesting things come up that are extremelly adverse to religion (not that im a religiouse person but what the heck, I figure I’ll warn you)
In this maddening search for scientific answers to confirm our own philisofical beliefs. (this means looking for god with science) we will only really confirm that thier is no god out thier. But what if we DO find a god through science? NOW that would be interesting, because, of course in our finding this omnpotent creature the creature its self loses alot of its power. Science will not stop after it has found god. It will analyze god find out everything about him. If you know anything about phycology then you know that Knowing about somthing is the first step in controlling it.
God will be controlled and, in the definition of god, god will be destroyed.
So thank you very much for killing god, now i’ll have to find somthing else to do with my time.
So thank you very much for killing god, now i’ll have to find somthing else to do with my time.
Dear Bob, I have a suggestion. Go back to school and learn how to spell and use proper English.
geez, you philosofical liberals must have all went to the same skool. Who learned yew to spel so elecantly. Was it your phycology teacher? Wow! “somthing” tells me yew cud lern us so much about “darwiniism”. Lets start out by yew lerning us what omnpotent is, and then we can move on to what scxientists are.
Tee Hee…
Dear Bob, as an educator, and one who has taught for the last 18 years at both a community college and at a university I am strongly suggesting that you find an attorney.
I do not lightly suggest this Bob, as I have an aversion to the breed, but Bob, you have been seriously cheated.
First, your elementary and secondary teachers and your parents failed you miserably in not insuring that you had down, at least, the rudiments of spelling and grammar. Secondly, if you indeed attended a college or university and if you passed any courses requiring writing in English, you were cheated.
Now, Bob, I recognize that some of the above may have been what we cognoscenti call “Typos” and I can let that slide, I’ve made many a typo in my life and being in a hurry, didn’t catch them. However, Bob, even a cursory reading of your little mini-missive reveals your total lack of ability in communication via the written language. Really, Bob, sue the bastards for everything they have. You have been cheated boy; you have been cheated.
yes Bob, there is a very successful law group that would probably be happy to help you sue a school, they are very good at sueing schools, they do it for a living…the ACLU.
ID isn’t about evolution at all, I don’t know where you get that assessment. ID is simply the idea that we are “designs” rather than occurrences. And it also flies in the face of the basic tenets of evolution, which are:
1. The universe has always existed, so we don’t need to address where it came from.
2. Everything in the universe, large and small, submits to a few well-understood deterministic laws.
3. Life is the love child of luck and chemistry.
4. Cells, basic units of life, are little more than blobs of Jello.
5. All the sophisticated organisms around us grew from natural selection.
ID on the other hand, is the argument that certain features of the natural world–from miniature machines and digital information found in living cells, to the fine-tuning of physical constants–are best explained as the result of an intelligent cause.
ID debunks the idea that 1) the universe has always existed and 2) everything submits to a few deterministic laws, 3) life is the love child of luck and chemistry 4) cells, basic units of life, are blobs of JellO, and 5) Natural selection.
The other thing about Darwinists is there is one God; matter–and science is its prophet. Darwinists believe as communists do; that scientists can believe whatever they want to in their personal lives, but they must appeal only to the material when explaining nature.
So Evolutionists make the unbelievable rule that anyone who dares speak of purpose or design within science is no longer a scientist. That’s simply preposterous.
The end result, of course, is that ID DOES fill in a lot of the “gaps” that Evolution fails to explain because of all of its ridiculous rules that shut out real science.
The theory that we are “designs” rather than “occurrences” actually spurs scientists on to find out more. With the theory of evolution, any scientific evidence that comes along that doesn’t agree with its tidy little dictums is cast aside as not relevant.
ID opens the door to new discovery because it doesn’t have those stupid rules.
Natural selection and random genetic mutations –as a theory behind what has happened over the centuries on the earth–is really very limited. ID opens the door to new possibilities in science, and is gaining more and more traction in the scientific community.
hey. I posted a comment on the wrong post! HA!
Cao: waste of breath trying to teach “bob” (lucky for him he has a palindromic name, eh?) anything. Re-read his screed. What he’s managed to “learn” about ID indicates he’s dumber than a rock. Shake the dust from your feed and move on down the road.
Oh, and GM: he’s using the “New English”–you know, kinda like “new math”. It’s not necessary that any recognizeable orthography be followed in “New English” since, in the philoophy that gave it birth, meaningful content of language is entirely relative. (Relative to a 100-monkey stenographic pool, that is.)
Bob,
Hi, I’m Terry Dillard of the Right Track blog. That’s how my post started, and I believe that those words were the very last that you comprehended, so let me set the record straight.
On the contrary, sir, I know plenty about evolution and ID. Besides having a Master’s Degree in Counseling and having qualified for Mensa (I paid my dues, got my card, and then dropped out to save money — I’d proven what I wanted to prove, right?), I’m a naturally curious kind of guy.
I know I’m a good-looking guy, but LISTEN to the post, why don’t you? The post is about how the ACLU doesn’t mind the blind theories advocated by science, but they do mind the theories advocated by faith. Technically, neither can be proved. My point is, why is “scientific” theory more accepted than the faith passed down through millenia, when it is absolutely no more valid? I mean, if there IS a God (and I believe that there is), then Creationism and ID are more valid than Darwin and the Big Bang.
You say that ID is crappy science. My friend, if you read the definition of “theory” that I pulled from my Merriam-Webster’s and placed prominently in the video, you’d understand that theories are JUST theories. Again, YOU have faith to believe in your God named Science, I have faith to believe in my God Jehovah, what’s the difference? You can argue till the cows come home, and the bottom line is that you’ll end up saying “just because”, because that’s the only reason you could get me to accept, AND LIKEWISE FROM ME TO YOU.
Your statement that science would dissect God until it could control him shows where you stand with science — it can do anything, can’t it? Well, I’m not going to hold my breath waiting on that to happen.
Neitzsche said that there is no God. We have no proof of that, but then one day God said that there is no Neitzsche, and with little effort I could probably pinpoint his grave.
You’re a believe in science, right? Then tell me — where did the MATTER come from that the Big Bang exploited to create the universe? It was just always there, right? That’s all you can answer. So how is that different from my belief that God has always existed, and create the heavens and the earth?
Expand your horizons a little, dude. Visit my blog at http://www.righttrack.us and take up the argument there.
TD
(Sorry, not to be exclusive to Bob, but all visitors are welcome!)
TD
This has to be the funniest incidental thread I have even been privey to. Wow, it sure did make me feel better about myself, I am not the stupidest person alive. Now I have proof.
You ask me where the matter came to start the big bang. (Oh, and I apoligize for my spelling. I wasen’t aware it was such a huge ordeal)
Where did it come from? I have no idea. Thier is an awfull lot in this world that i don’t know. Alot that i will never know.
But the difference between me and you is that I don’t need to have a god to explain it for me.
Faith is, by definition, belief in somthing that cannot ever be proven. Unless religion goes through VERY radical changes, then no god will EVER be proven to exist.
SCience, on the other hand, can be proven. You can analyze it, you can dissect it. You cant do these things to god because, as I stated earlier, if you could then god would cease to be god.
I dislike ID because to me it seems like nothing but an easy way out. “Lets say god did it, lets say men from mars did it” (And belive me I would love it if it turned out that we came from some demented alien in his labratory)
But there is no evidence for it and, more importantly, it makes no sense.
Its like this: A tree is knocked over in the middle of a forest. The tree is badly burned although none of the trees surrounding it are harmed at all.
Now a scientists take is that a lightning bolt hit the tree and knocked it over (ITs called Occums razor, I think)
But ID would say no, because we didn’t see the lightning bolt and so instead of lightning it must have been an alien spaceship that hovered above the forest and then knocked the tree down with a death ray (I know the death ray is cheesey, stick with me)
Now, It very well COULD BE that an alien spaceship came down and zapped the tree, but which theory makes more sense? You decide.
Oh and im backtrackeing to the big bang, thier IS evidence for the big bang. Scientists have found background radiation reverberating throughout the cosmos that is an echo of the big bang itself.
This is getting technicall but you questioned the big band and how it started.
Thier is a theory (and at this point i use the word VERY loosely)that the universe that we live in exists on a plane that is moving in parralell to another plane. These planes are atracted to each other and when they touch, it sends out MASSIVE amounts of energy that basically starts the big bang. This sudden charge of energy pushes these two planes apart agian untill the explosion dies down and they tougch again, etc. You get how it works. I stress that this theory is VERY different from the theory of evolution in the way that concrete proof has been found for evolution and this is, so far, just a theory.
However, what separates this theory from your god-theory is that sienctists are actively trying to test and prove this theory wheras it is impossible to test your god-theory.
It is very possible that the plane theory will be proven wrong, however, your god-theory can never be proven right OR wrong due to the very nature of god.
What i was talking about in the firts comment about science destroying god was largely hypothetical because gods existance cannot be proven.
Unless, of course, you have an experiment that would test god. But untill then religion stays out of the science classrooms.
I hate this, everytime I try and comment your browser tells me that I am spam.
ID says that space aliens knock over trees with a death ray? You are really confused, Bob.
Besides that, the battle is not between science and religion, but evolution theory and science. Evolution theory doesn’t have enough evidence to support it. People just want to believe in it so bad they just pretend that there is. Check out these sites for more information:
Center
for Scientific Creation
Has a free book online and is
a great resource. Dr. Walt Brown issues a debate challenge to any
who believe in evolution.
Science Ministries
Your source for news and commentary on bioethics
Discovery
Institute’s Center For Science and Culture
Another great source of evolution refutation material.
Study up to amaze your friends and school boards.
Institute For Creation Research
Get some facts under your belt.
Creation Research Society
If you already know about Creation Science maybe you better
join these eggheads!
Answers in Genesis
The group liberals love to hate.
Creation-Evolution
Encyclopedia
They have a great book you can order.
Arizona Origin
Science Association Does your state have a group like
this?!
The
Handy Dandy Evolution RefuterYou will soon become an expert.