The Support Our Scouts Act 2005
Posted on July 22, 2005
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Update: 11/08/05
Today, the ACLJ has again represented you and your interests by filing our major brief with the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit.
Here’s the crux of the situation:
With the help of the ACLU, Mr. Eugene Winkler and other taxpayers brought a lawsuit against the military for their support of the National Scout Jamboree, held every four years.
(It is important to note that the military has provided service and support for this national event since 1937. Furthermore, Congress passed the Jamboree statute in 1972 to formally recognize the military’s role in the Jamboree.)
The plaintiffs argued that the Jamboree statute - and others - were laws ‘’respecting an establishment of religion’’ in violation of the First Amendment …
… since the Boy Scouts’ oath contains an affirmation to God.
The District Court agreed.
As this case makes its way to the appeals court, the ACLJ is ready to continue fighting for religious freedom in America!
Bearing the signatures of 88 members of the House and Senate, our brief contends that - among other things - the Jamboree statute was written by Congress to help the military pursue its own recruiting and public relations interests through involvement with private organizations …
… not to promote the Boy Scouts of America’s religious beliefs.
This is just another blatant attempt by the ACLU and others to destroy the Boy Scouts of America - because it is part of the scouts’ oath to affirm their belief in God.
The Boy Scouts Jamboree is a time-honored national tradition … we cannot allow it to be destroyed to advance the liberal cause of the ACLU and others!
The ACLJ will continue to fight this unconstitutional ruling and will keep you updated on our progress in the days to come.
In three days, The Boy Scouts will have their
National Jamboree. Today Sen. Bill Frist introduced an amendment to the Defense Authorization Bill called, “The Support Our Scouts Act of 2005″.
From Sen. Bill Frist:
Subject: Standing Up For The Boy Scouts of America
>Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 19:21:16 -0500
Just hours ago, I introduced an amendment to the Defense Authorization Bill … “Support Our Scouts Act of 2005.” You may recall that I wrote to you about this subject a few months ago. I wanted to give you an update …
Earlier this month, an appeals court judge declared Pentagon support for the Boy Scouts of America major gathering — the National Scout Jamboree — unconstitutional.
Why?
Well, in the words of the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) — who petitioned the court: the Scouts require members to “privately exercise their religious faith as directed by their families and religious advisors.” That, they argued, was a violation of the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment (separation of church and state). Sadly, the court agreed.
You’re probably wondering what takes place at the National Scout Jamboree … just what it is that had the ACLU so aghast. An American tradition, the National Scout Jamboree is a gathering of over 40,000 people — scouts, moms and dads — at Ft. A.P. Hill in Virginia (a military base). They come together every four years and learn important skills, such as canoeing, leathercraft, land navigation, first aid, and survival skills. They also come together to celebrate their bedrock values. They talk about patriotism; they talk about public service; they talk about conservation; they talk about civic virtue; and they talk about faith. No specific denomination, mind you, but rather the mere acknowledgment of a higher power.
That was enough to set the ACLU attack machine in motion; they put this venerable organization in their crosshairs. Once again, the ACLU sued the Boy Scouts of America.
This is an organization — the Boy Scouts of America — whose motto reads (in part): “On my honor I will do my best to do my duty to God and my country …” They gather — as I once did, as my three sons did, as more than 40 members of the United States Senate and 150 members of the House of Representatives did — to talk about principles. Principles like honesty, integrity, and character. My friends, the Boy Scouts of America produce good kids … the true leaders of tomorrow. They’ve been doing it proudly since 1910. And it’s a sad day when we need to enact legislation to enable them to keep doing it … particularly at a time when we face such unprecedented challenges at home and abroad.
As they say, America’s greatness is determined by our goodness. Well, let me tell you, these kids are as good as it gets. They make us proud. And we need to stand up for them.
Sign the petition to support this amendment, and call you legislators to get it passed!
Thank you Outside The Beltway , Mudville Gazette and Wizbang
» Filed Under 1st Amendment, Boyscouts, Church And State, PETITIONS
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I went to 2 Nation Jamborees, growing up, and I’m behind the Boy Scouts 100%
Signed, thanks for posting this.
I just don’t understand the ACLU’s jihad against the boy scouts strictly because they say a short prayer. It is just plain old prejudice to me.
Great post and I’ve signed as well. However, I think its also important to take this opportunity to point out to the senator that the ACLU is not good for this country and ask why nothing has been done to eliminate them. I wrote to the senator and said the following. We all should start making some noise….
“Dear Senator. I read today with great interest your piece on legislation you have introduced to support the Boy Scouts. I thank you for this effort. In reading your writing on the matter, you mention several times the actions of the ACLU that caused you to have to take this action, and one thought came to mind. The ACLU was founded by communists back in the 1920’s. To date they have succeeded in gaining horrible unfair decisions from the courts that violate the rights of more people than they claim to protect. They make a mockery of our constitution every day, and undermine the very fabric of democracy and liberty our founding fathers carefully put into place years ago. It begs the question, what are our leaders in the house and senate doing to put a stop to entities such as the ACLU, and hopefully put them out of business? This would be a great thing for this country and its people. Can you and your fellow government officials do something about this cancer called the ACLU? Thank you for your time and consideration on this very important issue. “
Jay,The petition has been signed. For some reason I thought of an old friend that has passed away while I was reading your post.He was a member of A.A.,and an old Scout, he had the 12 steps on the wall of his home. I wonder how the ACLU feels about step 3, “Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood him.” Do you suppose A.A. could end up being sued for posting that on the walls of their meeting halls, a public place? I would hope not, I was just having a sick thought.
God Bless America, God Save The Republic.
Most excellent. As a former boy scout, I credit the program with making me who I am today.
Thank you all so much!
That is aweful. If the ACLU wants to stick their nose into to something, then do it without interfering with our way of life. I know, impossible! Hey Jay, I have a suggestion about an article. There is news that, we may adopt the chinese way of population control. A fellow blogger, Ken, has the news article at his blog. Could you take a look and maybe do some research and see is the ACLU is invloved? If used, the article will have to have a link to Focus on the Family and Ken’s blog, but I said I would suggest it for him. You can take a look and see what you think. I was going update my links but see it already redirects. I am putting up a new site and will link to your site when it is finished. Thanks Jay.
It appears to me that because the national president of the ACLU is a lesbian, she is pissed that the courts ruled that the boy scouts could bar queer scout leaders and are using the myth that there is a seperation of church and state in the constitution to get back at the boy scouts.
I was a Scout for many years and I too credit it for the man I am today. It was a very positive influence and taught me about hard work and decency. Which I think is why the ACLU really has a problem with them. But really how you can expect the ACLU to agree with the BSA when they’re teaching young men to be
* Trustworthy,
* Loyal,
* Helpful,
* Friendly,
* Courteous,
* Kind,
* Obedient,
* Cheerful,
* Thrifty,
* Brave,
* Clean,
* and Reverent.
Everything the ACLU is against.
And the scout oath I’m sure they find especially offensive when it says in the final line, “To keep myself physically strong, mentally awake and morally straight.”
Why do you people hate America so much that you’d speak out against civil liberties, and would deliberately lie to do so? The court didn’t “find the Jamboree unconstitutional” as you erroneously claim. It found government funding of the jamboree unconstitutional. If you were half as conservative as you claim to be, you wouldn’t want your tax dollars going to that either. Let the people attending the Jamboree pay for the Jamboree. You’re just a bunch of pinko liberals who expect the government to pay for everything, and you’ll distort the truth to hide that fact. Go back to the Soviet Union, you ungrateful [edited].
Leave the boyscouts alone they have nothing but a remarkable tract record in doing good and benefiting young men. . . doesn’t take anything but a living brain to read the historical writing on the wall . . wake up and wise up!
No one here is speaking against civil liberties. We are all about civil liberties. The ACLU doesn’t give a fig about Civil Liberties. Since 1920, their only goal is to further a Communist Agenda. And their most recent way of doing it is to remove your ability to exercise your religious freedoms, supporting and defending terrorists, defending and supporting NAMBLA, destroying the most wholesome institution of the Boy Scouts, furthering the gay rights agenda, and murdering babies. if anyone thinks the ACLU is fighting for civil liberties, they obviously don’t pay any attention to the news. Because they are doing everything in their power to restrict your civil liberites. Sober up and read.
you guys need to shut the hell up
Gribbit, you clearly need to lay off the vodka, comrade. I didn’t speak out against the Jamboree, I just said that the people who attend shoud pay for it instead of me. You slimy liberals need to get your dirty fingers out of my wallet.
Liberals? What kind of Crack are you smoking Troll… WE ARE NOT LIBERALS
We are anti-ACLU. And if you are Pro-ACLU you are the damned Liberal.
John Q. We are far from liberals here. You are the one that needs to lay off the sauce.
Gribbit, you’re the one advocating taxpayer dollars for the Jamboree, not me. How dare you call me a liberal, when you’re the one who is being all tax-and-spend, you hypocrite.
Getting ugly in here i see. Why is this person against morals again?
Hey John Q Moron… Would you rather spend the tax payer dollars on funding the ACLU? Because each time they win a civil rights case, they get paid. How about bitching about that? Or how about all the money that we spend on health care for illegal aliens, or how about the money we are going to spend satisfying their anti-American agenda. The appropriations have been in the Defense Budget for over 60 years. Live with it. It is a good community service that the military provides. A safe, learning environment for children. Get over yourself. And quit smoking dope.
I’m all about using tax money to support the Boyscouts…is that liberal? So be it then.
John Q. Not So Public… where is your site? Or do you just troll other people’s blogs to get your jollies? We put our words out there for you to read… where can we read yours? I’m willing to wager you are nothing but a paper tiger. A moron who just likes to cause trouble. Do yourself a favor, go pick a fight with someone who will just call you names with no substance. I will call you names, but I have have substance.
you’ve been bitten by the bulldog.
Funny how the trolls can’t even use their real names much less an e-mail and/or blog to follow them to. There’s lots of yella’ in the comments boys. I don’t like my tax dollars paying for abortions or the losers in many social programs. It works both ways sweetheart. Anyway Jay, I listen to talk radio most of the day and obviously spend much time in the sphere, but didn’t hear of this until now. Thanks for posting it. I’m sure the next step for the ACLU will be fighting for potential lesbians to enter the boy scouts and potential homosexuals to enter the girl scouts. Unfortunately for that crowd it’s not that absurd.
Gribbit, I’m too smart to give a pseudo-conservative such as yourself a link to my website. We want thoughtful Americans there, not someone who throws around American taxpayer dollars willy-nilly. Be more like Jay, who admitted to being a liberal. I may not agree with his ideas, but I can at least respect his desire to debate ideas with honesty and civility. You, on the other hand, are beneath me, so I’m done with you.
John Q. Your an idiot, you don’t know who you are talking about. Stay on your site and leave Grib alone.
Man…Whichever one of you [edited] keeps submitting this crap to Fark.com every single night…I’m donating $5 to the ACLU every time you do, from now on.
And $10 when it’s done under a false headline.
Then why are you hanging around? Do you like showing your ignorance? Because Jay is no liberal. And I am no liberal. If you consider us Liberal what does that make you? An Authoritarian. Ok… let’s pull all federal funding from every department, let’s make the states fund the defense of the nation. And make the President a ceremonial position like the Queen of England.
You are the biggist POS I’ve ever come across. The reason why you won’t put up a link is because you are afraid. You are afraid that we could go to your site and dump on your thoughts and call you something you aren’t. Do yourself a favor.. leave and don’t come back. This is as nice as I’m going to get. So take advantage.
Oh! Hey! Whaddya know! It’s Gribbit submitting it.
Congratulations, Gribbit. You are now responsible for multiple cash donations to the ACLU.
So much for trying to stop them, eh?
GRIBBIT,
WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE. QUIT SUBMITTING THIS LINK TO FARK IN ALL CAPS (It’s called a ‘caps lock’ key, [edited], learn how to disable it). YOU’LL NEVER GET THIS CRAP GREENLIGHTED, SO STOP ALREADY.
LOVE,
TOTALFARK
Y’know, damn…I never much cared enough about the ACLU one way or another…But after seeing all this stuff…I decided to read their website a bit after I donated…I think I’m going to make a habit of it - they sound like a pretty cool organization.
A habit of donating, that is.
Thanks, Gribbit, for opening my eyes, and showing me a better way of spending that $5 a week than Whataburger.
Thanks for inspiring me Gribbit… to become a card carrying member of the ACLU after reading their website, which by the way, doesn’t look like it was designed by retarded monkeys.
Pony up the $5 for Totalfark so we can flame you in person, or stop submitting pointless links that waste everyone’s time.
Tell the ACLU I’m in for $25 a month. I might need them to defend my First Amendment right to talk to the press. Thanks Gribble for pointing me to them.
I didn’t know that the Anti-Christ Legions United needed money so bad that they were asking for donations.Jay, As I said before I signed the petition. I’ve now posted it at my site.
God Bless America, God Save The Republic.
You really, honestly think they’re anti-christ when they defend morons like Jerry Falwell?
When they defend a Presbyterian church in Nebraska from being evicted?
When their threat of lawsuit kept baptisms in public parks legal in Virginia?
Just because you never read about them defending Christians on FreeRepublic, doesn’t mean it never happened.
Just so you know Mr. whoever you are using the ftc.gov email address. The government has been informed of your doing so. I would expect that the Inspector General’s office would be interested in this.
And Just so you know… I didn’t submit this link. You guys are idiots. Go play with Daly POS I mean KOS.
John Q, you are an idiot Troll and do not know the def. of a Liberal. You are gonna have to wise up and open your eyes if you want to comment here. this site is way above your head and I think you are out of your league. Are you 21 yet? I have a teenage son who knows more about the American-Ccomunist-Liberties-Unification than you do. Please, return to your bridge and leave the thinking to those who can.
I submitted it to fark. Just go ahead and give your money to the ACLU every time I submitt. I’ll make you go broke.
u should give us more info