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	<title>Comments on: Stung by Anderson Cooper&#8217;s decline, Maddow doubles down on depravity</title>
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		<title>By: Rose</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2009/12/05/stung-by-anderson-coopers-decline-maddow-doubles-down-on-depravity/comment-page-1/#comment-130855</link>
		<dc:creator>Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 15:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep. And his ratings as of NOV. 18, 2009 are lower than Maddow&#039;s:

FOXNEWS HANNITY/PALIN 4,200,000
FOXNEWS O&#039;REILLY 3,868,000
FOXNEWS BECK 2,512,000
FOXNEWS GRETA 2,383,000
FOXNEWS BAIER 2,235,000
FOXNEWS SHEP 1,980,000
MSNBC OLBERMANN 1,041,000
CNNHN GRACE 1,036,000
&lt;b&gt;MSNBC MADDOW 957,000&lt;/b&gt;
CNN KING 835,000
MSNBC HARDBALL 625,000
&lt;b&gt;CNN COOPER 611,000&lt;/b&gt;

It&#039;s funny, we were talking a few days ago, noting that we never quote CNN or MSNBC as a news source any more, except in an instance like this. CNN was once a news leader. Snickering on air about tea-bagging isn&#039;t helping either one in the ratings, or the credibility department.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep. And his ratings as of NOV. 18, 2009 are lower than Maddow&#8217;s:</p>
<p>FOXNEWS HANNITY/PALIN 4,200,000<br />
FOXNEWS O&#8217;REILLY 3,868,000<br />
FOXNEWS BECK 2,512,000<br />
FOXNEWS GRETA 2,383,000<br />
FOXNEWS BAIER 2,235,000<br />
FOXNEWS SHEP 1,980,000<br />
MSNBC OLBERMANN 1,041,000<br />
CNNHN GRACE 1,036,000<br />
<b>MSNBC MADDOW 957,000</b><br />
CNN KING 835,000<br />
MSNBC HARDBALL 625,000<br />
<b>CNN COOPER 611,000</b></p>
<p>It&#8217;s funny, we were talking a few days ago, noting that we never quote CNN or MSNBC as a news source any more, except in an instance like this. CNN was once a news leader. Snickering on air about tea-bagging isn&#8217;t helping either one in the ratings, or the credibility department.</p>
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		<title>By: kerwin</title>
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		<dc:creator>kerwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 09:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anderson Cooper is CNN.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anderson Cooper is CNN.</p>
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		<title>By: Rose</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2009/12/05/stung-by-anderson-coopers-decline-maddow-doubles-down-on-depravity/comment-page-1/#comment-130828</link>
		<dc:creator>Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 02:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It has nothing to do with Bush, and everything to do with trillions of dollars in spending, gangster government Czars, and every issue declared a crisis with bills that have to be passed NOW or the world will end, and  President with a Congress who tries to push massive spending bills through with no input, no discussion, no compromise - without even knowing what is in the bill.

Nice attempt at spin, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It has nothing to do with Bush, and everything to do with trillions of dollars in spending, gangster government Czars, and every issue declared a crisis with bills that have to be passed NOW or the world will end, and  President with a Congress who tries to push massive spending bills through with no input, no discussion, no compromise &#8211; without even knowing what is in the bill.</p>
<p>Nice attempt at spin, though.</p>
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		<title>By: frellthat</title>
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		<dc:creator>frellthat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 22:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh no, it&#039;s a REAL grassroots movement!  After eight years of Bush, right-wingers suddenly and spontaneously decided that they were against deficit spending, shocking everyone who had been watching themselves spend the country into bankruptcy for the past decade.  And the fact that it happened just as a Democratic administration was sworn in is merely the most miraculous of coincidences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh no, it&#8217;s a REAL grassroots movement!  After eight years of Bush, right-wingers suddenly and spontaneously decided that they were against deficit spending, shocking everyone who had been watching themselves spend the country into bankruptcy for the past decade.  And the fact that it happened just as a Democratic administration was sworn in is merely the most miraculous of coincidences.</p>
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		<title>By: Rose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 20:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is worth adding that most adults didn&#039;t know what the term &quot;fisting&quot; meant either,

I guess in Maddow&#039;s (and her apologist&#039;s) eyes that means they are not &#039;sophisticated&#039;, and that they are, in Jim&#039;s opinion above, &quot;the stupidest people on the planet.&quot;

It is interesting to see the Left, who have been all about protests for many, many years suddenly dancing up and down in fury over people standing up and protesting back.

It&#039;s even worse to see the Left (people like Maddow and the others on MSNBC) vociferously denigrate people who are simply saying, &quot;Act Responsibly.&quot; &quot;Read the bill before you vote on it.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is worth adding that most adults didn&#8217;t know what the term &#8220;fisting&#8221; meant either,</p>
<p>I guess in Maddow&#8217;s (and her apologist&#8217;s) eyes that means they are not &#8217;sophisticated&#8217;, and that they are, in Jim&#8217;s opinion above, &#8220;the stupidest people on the planet.&#8221;</p>
<p>It is interesting to see the Left, who have been all about protests for many, many years suddenly dancing up and down in fury over people standing up and protesting back.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s even worse to see the Left (people like Maddow and the others on MSNBC) vociferously denigrate people who are simply saying, &#8220;Act Responsibly.&#8221; &#8220;Read the bill before you vote on it.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Rose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 18:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;...Let’s take away their Medicare and Social Security for starters, then deny them police protection, fire department protection, and garbage collection. Let’s forbid them driving on public highways, having picnics at public parks, and on and on....&lt;/i&gt;

Right. Let&#039;s take away all the things they pay taxes for. 

You have a fundamental failure to understand what the social contract is. People agree to pool their money, in the form of taxes, to pay for things like police protection and road construction and maintenance. Additionally, they agree to pay taxes to maintain a military force.

It&#039;s not your money to take away, Jim. But if you were going to, you would no longer have the right to take their money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8230;Let’s take away their Medicare and Social Security for starters, then deny them police protection, fire department protection, and garbage collection. Let’s forbid them driving on public highways, having picnics at public parks, and on and on&#8230;.</i></p>
<p>Right. Let&#8217;s take away all the things they pay taxes for. </p>
<p>You have a fundamental failure to understand what the social contract is. People agree to pool their money, in the form of taxes, to pay for things like police protection and road construction and maintenance. Additionally, they agree to pay taxes to maintain a military force.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not your money to take away, Jim. But if you were going to, you would no longer have the right to take their money.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 17:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The teabaggers are easily the stupidest people on the planet.  They know nothing. &quot;Grass roots?&quot; give me a break. They were organized by Dick Armey, Glenn Beck, and any number of rightwing lunatics who are more interested in power than people. They show up with pictures comparing health care reform to Nazi concentration camps, with no actual knowledge of history, or perhaps how that might feel to Holocaust survivors. They don&#039;t care - they don&#039;t know any Jews. They scream crap like &#039;Obama is a fascist&quot; and then don&#039;t know what the word means when challenged. They are racist, obese, stupid rednecks who are qualified to do nothing but remove trash from landfills. 

As far as their protests about the gov&#039;t spending too much money, they sat on their very ample behinds (do you notice how fat they are?) while Bush bankrupted the US on his revenge-for-my-daddy war. In case you didn&#039;t notice, a sizable majority voted the Republicans out a year ago, saying collectively, &quot;go away.&quot; 

Tell you what - let&#039;s test the teabaggers and see just how much they actually want the government out of their lives. Let&#039;s take away their Medicare and Social Security for starters, then deny them police protection, fire department protection, and garbage collection. Let&#039;s forbid them driving on public highways, having picnics at public parks, and on and on. 

Teabaggers, and screaming town hall attendees, represent how boneheadly stupid this country has become.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The teabaggers are easily the stupidest people on the planet.  They know nothing. &#8220;Grass roots?&#8221; give me a break. They were organized by Dick Armey, Glenn Beck, and any number of rightwing lunatics who are more interested in power than people. They show up with pictures comparing health care reform to Nazi concentration camps, with no actual knowledge of history, or perhaps how that might feel to Holocaust survivors. They don&#8217;t care &#8211; they don&#8217;t know any Jews. They scream crap like &#8216;Obama is a fascist&#8221; and then don&#8217;t know what the word means when challenged. They are racist, obese, stupid rednecks who are qualified to do nothing but remove trash from landfills. </p>
<p>As far as their protests about the gov&#8217;t spending too much money, they sat on their very ample behinds (do you notice how fat they are?) while Bush bankrupted the US on his revenge-for-my-daddy war. In case you didn&#8217;t notice, a sizable majority voted the Republicans out a year ago, saying collectively, &#8220;go away.&#8221; </p>
<p>Tell you what &#8211; let&#8217;s test the teabaggers and see just how much they actually want the government out of their lives. Let&#8217;s take away their Medicare and Social Security for starters, then deny them police protection, fire department protection, and garbage collection. Let&#8217;s forbid them driving on public highways, having picnics at public parks, and on and on. </p>
<p>Teabaggers, and screaming town hall attendees, represent how boneheadly stupid this country has become.</p>
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		<title>By: Rose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 01:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, and if the &quot;Tea Party&quot; people were professional activists, they would have had the term vetted. As it is, when REAL people actually stand up to protest, they do not have access to Think Tanks and have not even thought about Googling terms like &quot;Teabagger&quot;

There is a huge difference between these ordinary citizens and professional activists who use the &quot;grassroots&quot; cloak to hide their true nature. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, and if the &#8220;Tea Party&#8221; people were professional activists, they would have had the term vetted. As it is, when REAL people actually stand up to protest, they do not have access to Think Tanks and have not even thought about Googling terms like &#8220;Teabagger&#8221;</p>
<p>There is a huge difference between these ordinary citizens and professional activists who use the &#8220;grassroots&#8221; cloak to hide their true nature.</p>
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		<title>By: Rose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 01:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In other words, they had no reason to Google it, Conservanus. They had no idea you wouldn&#039;t understand that they meant the Boston Tea Party. Or that it would be twisted in this way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In other words, they had no reason to Google it, Conservanus. They had no idea you wouldn&#8217;t understand that they meant the Boston Tea Party. Or that it would be twisted in this way.</p>
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		<title>By: Rose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 01:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;Tea&#039;Bagger&quot; term came out of the LEFT WING Think Tanks - a talking point designed to denigrate the Tea Party concept, movement and people. KOS or DU started it, as far as I can tell, and MSNBC gleefully picked it up and ran with it, because they are incapable of setting their bias aside. They seem to have a vested interest in protecting all things Obama. It is more than just orders, when challenged, the look on Campbell Brown&#039;s face (for example) is very telling.

The Tea Partiers are attacked for their innocence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;Tea&#8217;Bagger&#8221; term came out of the LEFT WING Think Tanks &#8211; a talking point designed to denigrate the Tea Party concept, movement and people. KOS or DU started it, as far as I can tell, and MSNBC gleefully picked it up and ran with it, because they are incapable of setting their bias aside. They seem to have a vested interest in protecting all things Obama. It is more than just orders, when challenged, the look on Campbell Brown&#8217;s face (for example) is very telling.</p>
<p>The Tea Partiers are attacked for their innocence.</p>
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