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	<title>Comments on: Birther Ad Is Not Raaaaacist, It&#8217;s Just Stupid</title>
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		<title>By: Palin4Prez</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2009/12/01/birther-ad-is-not-raaaaacist-its-just-stupid/comment-page-1/#comment-131819</link>
		<dc:creator>Palin4Prez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 16:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So basically it all still comes down to the original Birth Certificate &amp; college records.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So basically it all still comes down to the original Birth Certificate &amp; college records.</p>
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		<title>By: Americaneocon</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2009/12/01/birther-ad-is-not-raaaaacist-its-just-stupid/comment-page-1/#comment-130427</link>
		<dc:creator>Americaneocon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 00:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>American Power tracked-back with, &lt;a href=&quot;http://americanpowerblog.blogspot.com/2009/12/charles-johnson-completes-auto.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&#039;Charles Johnson Completes Auto-Excommunication From the Entire Conservative Blogosphere&#039;&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>American Power tracked-back with, <a href="http://americanpowerblog.blogspot.com/2009/12/charles-johnson-completes-auto.html" rel="nofollow">&#8216;Charles Johnson Completes Auto-Excommunication From the Entire Conservative Blogosphere&#8217;</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Kpoddi</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2009/12/01/birther-ad-is-not-raaaaacist-its-just-stupid/comment-page-1/#comment-130410</link>
		<dc:creator>Kpoddi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 18:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I regret if my comment came across as contradictory.  My intent was to be supportive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I regret if my comment came across as contradictory.  My intent was to be supportive.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Johns</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2009/12/01/birther-ad-is-not-raaaaacist-its-just-stupid/comment-page-1/#comment-130408</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Johns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 18:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe it is wrong and presumptuous to argue conclusively that Obama is not an American citizen.  However, the fact that this question still lingers is equally unacceptable.  As I&#039;ve argued, the burden is not on the American people to prove he is not a natural born citizen.  The burden is on Obama to release the documents--his Certificate of Live Birth, his hospital birth records, his citizen status in Indonesia, his citizen status upon reentering the U.S. from Indonesia, and his college/law school applications, that would settle these matters conclusively.

I made this argument in my recent article on the topic, and I am hopeful that this will be embraced as the sensible conservative position on this matter.  Absent these documents, I believe it is inappropriate to reach any speculative conclusions about what they might reveal.  But nor do I believe that we should accept Obama&#039;s now multiple million dollar effort to conceal these documents, as we appear to be doing.  What exactly is he concealing and why?  The burden (as I argue in the article below) is on him to release them, and we should insist that he do so. We also should insist, going forward, that FEC policy require candidates to present the documents related to their Constitutional eligibility when they register their candidacy.  That this is not now required is scandalous:

http://michaeljohnsonfreedomandprosperity.blogspot.com/2009/09/release-birth-documents.html

Thanks to you guys for staying on top of this important issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe it is wrong and presumptuous to argue conclusively that Obama is not an American citizen.  However, the fact that this question still lingers is equally unacceptable.  As I&#8217;ve argued, the burden is not on the American people to prove he is not a natural born citizen.  The burden is on Obama to release the documents&#8211;his Certificate of Live Birth, his hospital birth records, his citizen status in Indonesia, his citizen status upon reentering the U.S. from Indonesia, and his college/law school applications, that would settle these matters conclusively.</p>
<p>I made this argument in my recent article on the topic, and I am hopeful that this will be embraced as the sensible conservative position on this matter.  Absent these documents, I believe it is inappropriate to reach any speculative conclusions about what they might reveal.  But nor do I believe that we should accept Obama&#8217;s now multiple million dollar effort to conceal these documents, as we appear to be doing.  What exactly is he concealing and why?  The burden (as I argue in the article below) is on him to release them, and we should insist that he do so. We also should insist, going forward, that FEC policy require candidates to present the documents related to their Constitutional eligibility when they register their candidacy.  That this is not now required is scandalous:</p>
<p><a href="http://michaeljohnsonfreedomandprosperity.blogspot.com/2009/09/release-birth-documents.html" rel="nofollow">http://michaeljohnsonfreedomandprosperity.blogspot.com/2009/09/release-birth-documents.html</a></p>
<p>Thanks to you guys for staying on top of this important issue.</p>
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		<title>By: robotech master</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2009/12/01/birther-ad-is-not-raaaaacist-its-just-stupid/comment-page-1/#comment-130406</link>
		<dc:creator>robotech master</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 18:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Kpoddi


Maybe you should speak more... umm more straight forwardly. You seem to be repeatedly contradicting yourself.</description>
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<p>Maybe you should speak more&#8230; umm more straight forwardly. You seem to be repeatedly contradicting yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: On Charles Johnson&#8217;s retreat from the Right &#124; Political Byline</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2009/12/01/birther-ad-is-not-raaaaacist-its-just-stupid/comment-page-1/#comment-130405</link>
		<dc:creator>On Charles Johnson&#8217;s retreat from the Right &#124; Political Byline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 18:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kpoddi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kpoddi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 17:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an unfortunate post.  Take a few hours and study the information added here today.  You can choose to run with the pack and focus on the &quot;red herring&quot; birth certificate issue, or you can join a quiet and growing body of lawyers, constitutional scholars, historians and well informed citizen activists in what will ultimately become the defining issue of the Obama Presidency.

Take a few hours and study the legal activity  on this matter in the month of November 2009 and then ask, why did the President state ~10 days ago that he may not be running in 2012?

Look into the recent actions of State Assemblymen in New Hampshire and consider why new election criteria are quietly being moved into legislation across this country.

Or, keep falling like a sucker for Obama&#039;s red herring trap - his birth certificate. 

And to be clear, this matter is not settled for one side or the other...it demands Constitutional review ON THE MERITS by our courts.  The disgrace for our nation is the complicity across all branches of government - to DECIDE FOR US what our Constitution means ... and lack of integrity of our media who mocks people who are standing up for the Constitution.  

You could choose to become a leader and take the time to understand this Constitutional crisis and use this blog platform to help educate others.  You may be surprised when learn about company you will be keeping.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an unfortunate post.  Take a few hours and study the information added here today.  You can choose to run with the pack and focus on the &#8220;red herring&#8221; birth certificate issue, or you can join a quiet and growing body of lawyers, constitutional scholars, historians and well informed citizen activists in what will ultimately become the defining issue of the Obama Presidency.</p>
<p>Take a few hours and study the legal activity  on this matter in the month of November 2009 and then ask, why did the President state ~10 days ago that he may not be running in 2012?</p>
<p>Look into the recent actions of State Assemblymen in New Hampshire and consider why new election criteria are quietly being moved into legislation across this country.</p>
<p>Or, keep falling like a sucker for Obama&#8217;s red herring trap &#8211; his birth certificate. </p>
<p>And to be clear, this matter is not settled for one side or the other&#8230;it demands Constitutional review ON THE MERITS by our courts.  The disgrace for our nation is the complicity across all branches of government &#8211; to DECIDE FOR US what our Constitution means &#8230; and lack of integrity of our media who mocks people who are standing up for the Constitution.  </p>
<p>You could choose to become a leader and take the time to understand this Constitutional crisis and use this blog platform to help educate others.  You may be surprised when learn about company you will be keeping.</p>
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		<title>By: 1andyman</title>
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		<dc:creator>1andyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 16:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would you please point to the part of the Constitution that says &quot;anyone born on American soil is a natural born citizen&quot;? TIA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would you please point to the part of the Constitution that says &#8220;anyone born on American soil is a natural born citizen&#8221;? TIA.</p>
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		<title>By: robotech master</title>
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		<dc:creator>robotech master</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 16:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also...

The great irony of this whole debate is the fact that the writers of the US Constitution wrote the &quot;Natural Born Citizen&quot; clause SOLELY to keep BRITISH CITIZENS from &quot;buying&quot; elections and turning the US back over to the king...

Obama HAS ADMITTED TO BEING A BRITISH CITIZEN.

The sad fact that the natural born clause was in fact written almost completely to keep ppl like obama from becoming president...

This little FACT is always overlooked by anti-constitutionalists ppl.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also&#8230;</p>
<p>The great irony of this whole debate is the fact that the writers of the US Constitution wrote the &#8220;Natural Born Citizen&#8221; clause SOLELY to keep BRITISH CITIZENS from &#8220;buying&#8221; elections and turning the US back over to the king&#8230;</p>
<p>Obama HAS ADMITTED TO BEING A BRITISH CITIZEN.</p>
<p>The sad fact that the natural born clause was in fact written almost completely to keep ppl like obama from becoming president&#8230;</p>
<p>This little FACT is always overlooked by anti-constitutionalists ppl.</p>
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		<title>By: robotech master</title>
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		<dc:creator>robotech master</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 16:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To William Teach 

I&#039;m sorry but you should review the history of the constitution more carefully.

First it wasn&#039;t until the 14th amendment that being born in US soil equals being a US citizen... the problem is the 14th amendment in fact DOESN&#039;T support that idea.

The writers of the 14th amendment were very clear that it was strictly for the current issue(slavery). The idea that the 14th amendment applies to everyone was created by the supreme court. 

The supreme court has NEVER stated that the 14th amendment creates natural born citizens under the constitutional definition.(in fact in wong kim ark the pretty much first ruling on the issue they are very clear in not calling the ppl born on US soil &quot;natural born citizens&quot;)

Constitutionalists are asking the court to make a ruling(one way or the other) the court has so far refused.


Anyone that opposes the constitutionalists in demanding the supreme court make a ruling on the issue is in fact opposed to the constitution... 

Everyone that believes in the US Constitution and that the US Constitution is the highest law in the land that must be obeyed no matter the outcome MUST demand the courts make a ruling.

The vast majority of ppl simply want the courts to do they&#039;re job... thats not a conspiracy theory... 

Those that say its a non-issue are in fact saying that the US Constitution is a minor set of guide lines that should only be obeyed when it fits the current political agenda. 


If the courts ruled in good faith on the issue it would go away. However the courts are very afraid that they would have to rule against obama thus causing massive civil unrest. 

This issue will come up in 2012 and it will likely go to court... unless obama decides not to run.

If its shown in 2012 that obama isn&#039;t legally allowed to run... your talking civil war. If the courts address the issues now your looking at rioting.

I frankly would like to have the issue settled without massive blood shed or civil war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To William Teach </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry but you should review the history of the constitution more carefully.</p>
<p>First it wasn&#8217;t until the 14th amendment that being born in US soil equals being a US citizen&#8230; the problem is the 14th amendment in fact DOESN&#8217;T support that idea.</p>
<p>The writers of the 14th amendment were very clear that it was strictly for the current issue(slavery). The idea that the 14th amendment applies to everyone was created by the supreme court. </p>
<p>The supreme court has NEVER stated that the 14th amendment creates natural born citizens under the constitutional definition.(in fact in wong kim ark the pretty much first ruling on the issue they are very clear in not calling the ppl born on US soil &#8220;natural born citizens&#8221;)</p>
<p>Constitutionalists are asking the court to make a ruling(one way or the other) the court has so far refused.</p>
<p>Anyone that opposes the constitutionalists in demanding the supreme court make a ruling on the issue is in fact opposed to the constitution&#8230; </p>
<p>Everyone that believes in the US Constitution and that the US Constitution is the highest law in the land that must be obeyed no matter the outcome MUST demand the courts make a ruling.</p>
<p>The vast majority of ppl simply want the courts to do they&#8217;re job&#8230; thats not a conspiracy theory&#8230; </p>
<p>Those that say its a non-issue are in fact saying that the US Constitution is a minor set of guide lines that should only be obeyed when it fits the current political agenda. </p>
<p>If the courts ruled in good faith on the issue it would go away. However the courts are very afraid that they would have to rule against obama thus causing massive civil unrest. </p>
<p>This issue will come up in 2012 and it will likely go to court&#8230; unless obama decides not to run.</p>
<p>If its shown in 2012 that obama isn&#8217;t legally allowed to run&#8230; your talking civil war. If the courts address the issues now your looking at rioting.</p>
<p>I frankly would like to have the issue settled without massive blood shed or civil war.</p>
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