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	<title>Comments on: Where Jeff Jacoby Has It All Wrong Regarding Conservatives And Illegals</title>
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		<title>By: Joe R.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 12:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not a liberal (I&#039;m an an-cap), but I don&#039;t understand the conservative stance on immigration, either.  Conservatives supposedly believe in private property.  If I own my home, I should be able to invite whatever guest into that home I wish (and, for that matter, bar whatever guest I wish).  But for a certain class of people (immigrants), I need your permission first (via your proxy the government).  This means that you are making some kind of claim on my home, which is in theory against conservative principles.  That&#039;s what Jacoby is referencing in his second paragraph.

If there&#039;s already a conservative argument out there about how immigration control can trump private property without compromising principle, I&#039;d like to read it.

And Pasadena Phil, it&#039;s just not realistic to expect them to come here legally under current laws.  It&#039;s nearly impossible to do so.  When you&#039;re saying &quot;Come here legally,&quot; you&#039;re really saying &quot;Don&#039;t come,&quot; whether you realize it or not.  And commenter rssg contradicts your claim, anyway: &quot;...what many want is reduced legal immigration...it’s time we drastically cut back Mexican immigration of all kinds...&quot;  This is what I&#039;ve suspected all along.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not a liberal (I&#8217;m an an-cap), but I don&#8217;t understand the conservative stance on immigration, either.  Conservatives supposedly believe in private property.  If I own my home, I should be able to invite whatever guest into that home I wish (and, for that matter, bar whatever guest I wish).  But for a certain class of people (immigrants), I need your permission first (via your proxy the government).  This means that you are making some kind of claim on my home, which is in theory against conservative principles.  That&#8217;s what Jacoby is referencing in his second paragraph.</p>
<p>If there&#8217;s already a conservative argument out there about how immigration control can trump private property without compromising principle, I&#8217;d like to read it.</p>
<p>And Pasadena Phil, it&#8217;s just not realistic to expect them to come here legally under current laws.  It&#8217;s nearly impossible to do so.  When you&#8217;re saying &#8220;Come here legally,&#8221; you&#8217;re really saying &#8220;Don&#8217;t come,&#8221; whether you realize it or not.  And commenter rssg contradicts your claim, anyway: &#8220;&#8230;what many want is reduced legal immigration&#8230;it’s time we drastically cut back Mexican immigration of all kinds&#8230;&#8221;  This is what I&#8217;ve suspected all along.</p>
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		<title>By: Educating Illegal Immigrants</title>
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		<dc:creator>Educating Illegal Immigrants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] unsigned piece at Stop the ACLU retorts, &#8220;what Jeff is missing is that the people looking for a better [...]</description>
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		<title>By: jpp</title>
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		<dc:creator>jpp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are tired of the never-ending, mass immigration, especially from south of the border.  

Lower immigration now.  Enforce the law against illegal immigration.   Deport illegal immigrants, period.  Restore integrity to the system by enforcing the law.  Is that so hard to understand?

The DC whores understand it, they only ignore it because they are paid off by the now powerful &quot;Latino lobby&quot; and immigration lawyers&#039; lobby.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are tired of the never-ending, mass immigration, especially from south of the border.  </p>
<p>Lower immigration now.  Enforce the law against illegal immigration.   Deport illegal immigrants, period.  Restore integrity to the system by enforcing the law.  Is that so hard to understand?</p>
<p>The DC whores understand it, they only ignore it because they are paid off by the now powerful &#8220;Latino lobby&#8221; and immigration lawyers&#8217; lobby.</p>
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		<title>By: AStoner</title>
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		<dc:creator>AStoner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank K.
We could never allow 4.5 billion people to enter the USA, as simply that would mean that conservative value candidates would then be voted into office. We can only allow people who can be quickly converted into a liberal protected class.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank K.<br />
We could never allow 4.5 billion people to enter the USA, as simply that would mean that conservative value candidates would then be voted into office. We can only allow people who can be quickly converted into a liberal protected class.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank  K .</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank  K .</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 07:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Jeff :  Enjoy your column most days , but what part of the word &quot;ILLEGAL&quot; don&#039;t you quite understand ? .... Why stop with simply the Mexican or Hispanic population ; why not bring the other 4.5 billion people who are &quot;looking-for-a-better-life&quot; in , as well ?  ... At what point does ideology intersect with reality ? ... What exactly , is the right number of people we need to bring on-board ?.... Frank  K . (N.Va.)he &quot;right number&quot; of</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Jeff :  Enjoy your column most days , but what part of the word &#8220;ILLEGAL&#8221; don&#8217;t you quite understand ? &#8230;. Why stop with simply the Mexican or Hispanic population ; why not bring the other 4.5 billion people who are &#8220;looking-for-a-better-life&#8221; in , as well ?  &#8230; At what point does ideology intersect with reality ? &#8230; What exactly , is the right number of people we need to bring on-board ?&#8230;. Frank  K . (N.Va.)he &#8220;right number&#8221; of</p>
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		<title>By: John Flynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Flynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 04:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read his rant and I have to admit I freaked, he is nuts! Just plain hatred for this country is the only thing I can think of to explain why he, in this economic climate would go on about giving away more more more. 
  Jeff just pull a gun or burn something down will ya. Try to destroy what you hate the old fashioned way and pay the price like a man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read his rant and I have to admit I freaked, he is nuts! Just plain hatred for this country is the only thing I can think of to explain why he, in this economic climate would go on about giving away more more more.<br />
  Jeff just pull a gun or burn something down will ya. Try to destroy what you hate the old fashioned way and pay the price like a man.</p>
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		<title>By: Pasadena Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pasadena Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 03:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is Jeff Jacoby a public school graduate? You have to be willfully ignorant to have lived through the last three years of the anti-amnesty uprising without at least understanding our arguments. If he is going to persuade us, he should at least demonstrate that he UNDERSTANDS what we are saying. 

This guy is just another Northeast establishment liberal ignoramus parading around as a conservative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is Jeff Jacoby a public school graduate? You have to be willfully ignorant to have lived through the last three years of the anti-amnesty uprising without at least understanding our arguments. If he is going to persuade us, he should at least demonstrate that he UNDERSTANDS what we are saying. </p>
<p>This guy is just another Northeast establishment liberal ignoramus parading around as a conservative.</p>
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		<title>By: AStoner</title>
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		<dc:creator>AStoner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 03:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick in Texas. You can only use that defense if you have a 2 month old daughter and claim that you are only trying to better her future. How could you be so selfish? ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick in Texas. You can only use that defense if you have a 2 month old daughter and claim that you are only trying to better her future. How could you be so selfish? <img src='http://www.stoptheaclu.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 02:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Jeff Jacoby believes the law is wrong, then he should campaign to change the law, not to break the current laws. If it is OK to violate the immigration laws, then why not every other law on the books (like the MA health insurance mandate for example)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Jeff Jacoby believes the law is wrong, then he should campaign to change the law, not to break the current laws. If it is OK to violate the immigration laws, then why not every other law on the books (like the MA health insurance mandate for example)?</p>
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		<title>By: RickinTexas</title>
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		<dc:creator>RickinTexas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I rob a bank in Massachusetts will I be able to use the &quot;I was only trying to better my life&quot; defence?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I rob a bank in Massachusetts will I be able to use the &#8220;I was only trying to better my life&#8221; defence?</p>
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