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		<title>By: Haunting, Discordant: &#8220;No Rules for Radicals&#8221; Music Video Reveals Tools Used by Socialists (video) &#171; Frugal Café Blog Zone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Haunting, Discordant: &#8220;No Rules for Radicals&#8221; Music Video Reveals Tools Used by Socialists (video) &#171; Frugal Café Blog Zone</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Déjà Vu Omen: Barack Obama&#8217;s Actions and Vladimir Lenin Quotes&#8230; America on the Brink of Socialism &#171; Frugal Café Blog Zone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Déjà Vu Omen: Barack Obama&#8217;s Actions and Vladimir Lenin Quotes&#8230; America on the Brink of Socialism &#171; Frugal Café Blog Zone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 19:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 04:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>M, read Sec. 401 under taxes for individuals without qualifying insurance. I think 2.5% of up to 70k or $3500.00 qualifies as a fine under some considerations.
It does not say they will get coverage, just the bill.


M

I would like to direct your attention to page 97 line 20 of the bill that your URL is linking to. It is sec 205 (b)(3) for those who may have it from a differnt source. It says that if you do not have insurance that you will be enrolled in a plan if you are not medicaid eligible



M they beat me to it..... But I will wait for an apology from you now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>M, read Sec. 401 under taxes for individuals without qualifying insurance. I think 2.5% of up to 70k or $3500.00 qualifies as a fine under some considerations.<br />
It does not say they will get coverage, just the bill.</p>
<p>M</p>
<p>I would like to direct your attention to page 97 line 20 of the bill that your URL is linking to. It is sec 205 (b)(3) for those who may have it from a differnt source. It says that if you do not have insurance that you will be enrolled in a plan if you are not medicaid eligible</p>
<p>M they beat me to it&#8230;.. But I will wait for an apology from you now.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To all those who would like the government to stop meddling in health care:  You may be right, and there is certainly reason to discuss (not outshout) the pros and cons of this.  However, if the government truly gets out of health care these are some of the ramifications.

1.   At present, due to favorable government tax laws, I don’t pay taxes on the roughly $2500 premiums I spend each year on my employee provided health insurance, nor do I pay taxes on the roughly $7500 my company spends each year on my behalf, nor do I pay taxes on the $2400 I contribute to my flexible spending account.  For someone in the 25% tax bracket, this is a monthly tax savings of about $258.  If the government stops meddling, that’s a cost we’ll all have to pay.

2.  Because most health care costs occur at the end of life, the fact that the government takes care of those costs through Medicare means my insurance premiums don’t reflect the cost of these very ill and very costly people.  Furthermore, presumably, doctor and hospital costs also don’t reflect the lost profits due to the inability of the elderly to pay for end-of-life care.  If the government stops meddling, everyone’s health care costs are going to increase to cover them.

3.  Because the elderly become so sick and so costly, no insurance company would ever provide insurance to them at any conceivable cost.  Thus, if the government stops meddling, we can go back to the days of grandma choosing between taking her medicine or eating cat food for dinner.  Or, we can pay for grandma’s medical expenses out of our own pockets.  Better still, let’s abolish Social Security (another instance of government meddling) and end any chance grandma can ever live on her own.  Then we can pay all her living expenses out or our own pocket, too, with the 7.65% raise we’ll get by not paying Social Security and Medicare taxes.  This might be expensive, but clearly it’s worth it to stop government meddling in our lives.  Correct?

4.  If the government stops meddling in health care, then we can end the Veterans Administration and let all those soldiers purchase their own health insurance.  Sure they may have service related conditions that make it impossible to ever obtain insurance, but, hey, that’s the chance you take when you volunteer your life for your country.  Maybe we can all toss them a few bucks when we see them begging on the street.

These are just the first things that come to mind; I’m sure there are others.  The fact is we all benefit because the government is “meddling” in our health care.  If I recall correctly, if just the tax advantages of #1 above were removed (and, really, why shouldn’t they be removed?) much of the cost of the various versions of the health care reform plans could be paid for with no increase in the deficit.  The problem is that a rational debate and discussion seems to be impossible given the partisan nature of the issue, the incredible anger from the side of those who oppose health care reform as currently envisioned,  and the falsehoods that are being manufactured.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To all those who would like the government to stop meddling in health care:  You may be right, and there is certainly reason to discuss (not outshout) the pros and cons of this.  However, if the government truly gets out of health care these are some of the ramifications.</p>
<p>1.   At present, due to favorable government tax laws, I don’t pay taxes on the roughly $2500 premiums I spend each year on my employee provided health insurance, nor do I pay taxes on the roughly $7500 my company spends each year on my behalf, nor do I pay taxes on the $2400 I contribute to my flexible spending account.  For someone in the 25% tax bracket, this is a monthly tax savings of about $258.  If the government stops meddling, that’s a cost we’ll all have to pay.</p>
<p>2.  Because most health care costs occur at the end of life, the fact that the government takes care of those costs through Medicare means my insurance premiums don’t reflect the cost of these very ill and very costly people.  Furthermore, presumably, doctor and hospital costs also don’t reflect the lost profits due to the inability of the elderly to pay for end-of-life care.  If the government stops meddling, everyone’s health care costs are going to increase to cover them.</p>
<p>3.  Because the elderly become so sick and so costly, no insurance company would ever provide insurance to them at any conceivable cost.  Thus, if the government stops meddling, we can go back to the days of grandma choosing between taking her medicine or eating cat food for dinner.  Or, we can pay for grandma’s medical expenses out of our own pockets.  Better still, let’s abolish Social Security (another instance of government meddling) and end any chance grandma can ever live on her own.  Then we can pay all her living expenses out or our own pocket, too, with the 7.65% raise we’ll get by not paying Social Security and Medicare taxes.  This might be expensive, but clearly it’s worth it to stop government meddling in our lives.  Correct?</p>
<p>4.  If the government stops meddling in health care, then we can end the Veterans Administration and let all those soldiers purchase their own health insurance.  Sure they may have service related conditions that make it impossible to ever obtain insurance, but, hey, that’s the chance you take when you volunteer your life for your country.  Maybe we can all toss them a few bucks when we see them begging on the street.</p>
<p>These are just the first things that come to mind; I’m sure there are others.  The fact is we all benefit because the government is “meddling” in our health care.  If I recall correctly, if just the tax advantages of #1 above were removed (and, really, why shouldn’t they be removed?) much of the cost of the various versions of the health care reform plans could be paid for with no increase in the deficit.  The problem is that a rational debate and discussion seems to be impossible given the partisan nature of the issue, the incredible anger from the side of those who oppose health care reform as currently envisioned,  and the falsehoods that are being manufactured.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Chung</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Chung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why can&#039;t Medicare stop spending money for people espacially elderly who wn&#039;t be able to live even after getting treatment? YOu know what this is cure for making no changes to patients like them but we need to reform our healthcare system so that money spent through current system will be saved. This is a common sense to everybody-they shouldn&#039;t waste billions of dollars in medicare for them who couldn&#039;t get their health better, this is unnecessary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why can&#8217;t Medicare stop spending money for people espacially elderly who wn&#8217;t be able to live even after getting treatment? YOu know what this is cure for making no changes to patients like them but we need to reform our healthcare system so that money spent through current system will be saved. This is a common sense to everybody-they shouldn&#8217;t waste billions of dollars in medicare for them who couldn&#8217;t get their health better, this is unnecessary.</p>
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		<title>By: William Teach</title>
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		<dc:creator>William Teach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sergio, I feel for your friend, but, sorry, his problems are not my responsibility to pay for his health probs (BTW, dental care is not part of the reform. Yet.) He can purchase insurance like the rest of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sergio, I feel for your friend, but, sorry, his problems are not my responsibility to pay for his health probs (BTW, dental care is not part of the reform. Yet.) He can purchase insurance like the rest of us.</p>
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		<title>By: Really?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Really?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EOT - It&#039;s spelled Venezuela.  And what worked - shoving policies down the public&#039;s throat or their health care programs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EOT &#8211; It&#8217;s spelled Venezuela.  And what worked &#8211; shoving policies down the public&#8217;s throat or their health care programs?</p>
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		<title>By: EOT</title>
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		<dc:creator>EOT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian, Aug 11, people are starting to realize that the Marxist administration currently in power are nothing but control freaks that want complete power over the population. That is a sure step in a direction that the founders of this nation were wise enough to foresee and put forms of checks and balances in the Constitution. The power belongs to the people with our right to bring down an oppressive government and replace it with a government for the people and by the people. Mid-term elections in 2010 will become a strangle hold on Obamas remaining time in office, until 2012. The Congress will be cleansed of all those in Congress that are refusing to listen to what the people have to say, but instead are trying to shove bad policies down all Americans throats. It worked in Germany, Venezuala, Cuba and any other communist nation you care to name, but it will not happen in American as long as those that dissent hold their ground and not allow Obama to further undermine our nation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian, Aug 11, people are starting to realize that the Marxist administration currently in power are nothing but control freaks that want complete power over the population. That is a sure step in a direction that the founders of this nation were wise enough to foresee and put forms of checks and balances in the Constitution. The power belongs to the people with our right to bring down an oppressive government and replace it with a government for the people and by the people. Mid-term elections in 2010 will become a strangle hold on Obamas remaining time in office, until 2012. The Congress will be cleansed of all those in Congress that are refusing to listen to what the people have to say, but instead are trying to shove bad policies down all Americans throats. It worked in Germany, Venezuala, Cuba and any other communist nation you care to name, but it will not happen in American as long as those that dissent hold their ground and not allow Obama to further undermine our nation.</p>
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		<title>By: Really?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Really?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear...everyone.
America - Love it or leave it? There are numerous things the government does, through my tax dollars, that I don&#039;t support.  sue.. that &quot;socialist drug&quot; has been called medicare for years.  &quot;I&#039;ll be waiting in my church&quot;...yada yada yada... Big Bible, so you&#039;re a Christian? From your big Bible &quot;I was naked, and you clothed me. I was sick, and you took care of me. I was in prison, and you visited me.&quot;  Why would you not want a system that helps those less fortunate and in need?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear&#8230;everyone.<br />
America &#8211; Love it or leave it? There are numerous things the government does, through my tax dollars, that I don&#8217;t support.  sue.. that &#8220;socialist drug&#8221; has been called medicare for years.  &#8220;I&#8217;ll be waiting in my church&#8221;&#8230;yada yada yada&#8230; Big Bible, so you&#8217;re a Christian? From your big Bible &#8220;I was naked, and you clothed me. I was sick, and you took care of me. I was in prison, and you visited me.&#8221;  Why would you not want a system that helps those less fortunate and in need?</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>M

I would like to direct your attention to page 97 line 20 of the bill that your URL is linking to.  It is sec 205 (b)(3) for those who may have it from a differnt source.  It says that if you do not have insurance that you will be enrolled in a plan if you are not medicaid eligible</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>M</p>
<p>I would like to direct your attention to page 97 line 20 of the bill that your URL is linking to.  It is sec 205 (b)(3) for those who may have it from a differnt source.  It says that if you do not have insurance that you will be enrolled in a plan if you are not medicaid eligible</p>
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