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	<title>Comments on: Obama&#8217;s Science Czar: Babies Aren&#8217;t Human Until They&#8217;ve Been Socialized</title>
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	<description>Beating Them With Their Own Sickle And Hammer</description>
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		<title>By: Carrot</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2009/07/29/obamas-science-czar-babies-arent-human-until-theyve-been-socialized/comment-page-1/#comment-134917</link>
		<dc:creator>Carrot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 20:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, along with the likes of Peter Singer and Steven Pinker, are only being logically consistent in their pro-choice beliefs.  I&#039;m sure in the future more people will be as well.

I mean, just think about it.  Babies...I mean, neonates (baby is just an emotional term religious nuts use), are not sentient or self-aware, much like a fetus.  No one else but the parents have any emotional attachment to them.  If they were allowed to have them murdered, I mean, aborted, by a doctor, there would be fewer unwanted children in the world.  Afterall, it is better to be dead than unwanted.  

It would help with that pesky human &quot;overpopulation&quot; problem too.  Aborting neonates is green!

Perhaps we could also them use them for science.  Their tissue, organs and stem cells could be used to help actual sentient and self-aware human persons.  Afterall, the life of a cute little 5-year-old girl with a family who loves her is worth more than an unwanted neonate that functions mainly on instinct, right?  Besides, we already use lab rats and mice in experiments, which are way more cognitively advanced than neonates.

Plus we wouldn&#039;t have to arrest those poor, scared mothers who have to smother their unwanted newborns or throw them in dumpsters or just get fed up with caring for them. Surely the right of a parasitic organism that functions mainly on instinct shouldn&#039;t trump the rights of a sentient and self-aware woman.  That&#039;s so anti-woman.  I mean, we let people euthanize dogs and cats, which are much more cognitively advanced than a neonate.  Its not like humans are special or anything; they&#039;re just another animal on the planet.

Infanticide:  Safe, legal, rare!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, along with the likes of Peter Singer and Steven Pinker, are only being logically consistent in their pro-choice beliefs.  I&#8217;m sure in the future more people will be as well.</p>
<p>I mean, just think about it.  Babies&#8230;I mean, neonates (baby is just an emotional term religious nuts use), are not sentient or self-aware, much like a fetus.  No one else but the parents have any emotional attachment to them.  If they were allowed to have them murdered, I mean, aborted, by a doctor, there would be fewer unwanted children in the world.  Afterall, it is better to be dead than unwanted.  </p>
<p>It would help with that pesky human &#8220;overpopulation&#8221; problem too.  Aborting neonates is green!</p>
<p>Perhaps we could also them use them for science.  Their tissue, organs and stem cells could be used to help actual sentient and self-aware human persons.  Afterall, the life of a cute little 5-year-old girl with a family who loves her is worth more than an unwanted neonate that functions mainly on instinct, right?  Besides, we already use lab rats and mice in experiments, which are way more cognitively advanced than neonates.</p>
<p>Plus we wouldn&#8217;t have to arrest those poor, scared mothers who have to smother their unwanted newborns or throw them in dumpsters or just get fed up with caring for them. Surely the right of a parasitic organism that functions mainly on instinct shouldn&#8217;t trump the rights of a sentient and self-aware woman.  That&#8217;s so anti-woman.  I mean, we let people euthanize dogs and cats, which are much more cognitively advanced than a neonate.  Its not like humans are special or anything; they&#8217;re just another animal on the planet.</p>
<p>Infanticide:  Safe, legal, rare!</p>
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		<title>By: k.sasmal</title>
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		<dc:creator>k.sasmal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a cute baby</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a cute baby</p>
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		<title>By: little guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>little guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 02:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You get the government you deserve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You get the government you deserve.</p>
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		<title>By: Tammy Beckwith-Hare</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tammy Beckwith-Hare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 03:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even if we keep God out of the equation; who could sanction that sort of a belief. If there was truth to this logicc, the gestation period would be 2 years and 9 months, and we&#039;d have to pipe in some sort of mantra so that when the child actually arrives, he/she  is suitably &quot;socialized.&quot;(I guess we can take that any way we like.) If I  were to choose to be Godless, I would be no more inclined to subscribe to this sort of idiocy. Who does this guy think he is; actually, the bigger question is whether a portion of our government is now a think tank for genocide. Let&#039;s see, we have a gentleman who claims that white people are the polluters, another who feels that we shouldn&#039;t waste resources on people, based on a cost/benefit assessment of their usefulness, and yet another who doesn&#039;t think human life matters until a child is at least 2 years old. Hmmm, maybe we can single out the white &quot;polluters&quot;, get rid of any over the age of 45, and under 2, and start getting the environment back under control!Oops...who&#039;s going to pay for all this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if we keep God out of the equation; who could sanction that sort of a belief. If there was truth to this logicc, the gestation period would be 2 years and 9 months, and we&#8217;d have to pipe in some sort of mantra so that when the child actually arrives, he/she  is suitably &#8220;socialized.&#8221;(I guess we can take that any way we like.) If I  were to choose to be Godless, I would be no more inclined to subscribe to this sort of idiocy. Who does this guy think he is; actually, the bigger question is whether a portion of our government is now a think tank for genocide. Let&#8217;s see, we have a gentleman who claims that white people are the polluters, another who feels that we shouldn&#8217;t waste resources on people, based on a cost/benefit assessment of their usefulness, and yet another who doesn&#8217;t think human life matters until a child is at least 2 years old. Hmmm, maybe we can single out the white &#8220;polluters&#8221;, get rid of any over the age of 45, and under 2, and start getting the environment back under control!Oops&#8230;who&#8217;s going to pay for all this?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeanne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 00:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few years ago, I was part or an intercessory prayer group.  I am constantly reminded of how true Epesians 6:12 is.....our battle is really against the rulers of darkness(Satan and his demons). When I become angered, disturbed, saddened by ignorance such as that proclaimed by Holdren I now understand I am being called to prayer. There is nothing more powerful, especially when it comes with love, humility, and self denial.  I remember how I too was &quot;once blind but now I see.&quot;  I remember that God loves Mr. Holdren too and desires for his salvation. I remember that no matter how unjust things seem, God is in control and in the end there is always God&#039;s justice as well as His mercy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few years ago, I was part or an intercessory prayer group.  I am constantly reminded of how true Epesians 6:12 is&#8230;..our battle is really against the rulers of darkness(Satan and his demons). When I become angered, disturbed, saddened by ignorance such as that proclaimed by Holdren I now understand I am being called to prayer. There is nothing more powerful, especially when it comes with love, humility, and self denial.  I remember how I too was &#8220;once blind but now I see.&#8221;  I remember that God loves Mr. Holdren too and desires for his salvation. I remember that no matter how unjust things seem, God is in control and in the end there is always God&#8217;s justice as well as His mercy.</p>
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		<title>By: Christine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Texson, Amen to that. Very well said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Texson, Amen to that. Very well said.</p>
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		<title>By: Obama&#8217;s Cyber Czar Hathaway Resigns&#8230; How Many Czars Do We Have Now in Obama&#8217;s Shadow Government? Still More Than Russia&#8230; &#171; Frugal Café Blog Zone</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2009/07/29/obamas-science-czar-babies-arent-human-until-theyve-been-socialized/comment-page-1/#comment-123087</link>
		<dc:creator>Obama&#8217;s Cyber Czar Hathaway Resigns&#8230; How Many Czars Do We Have Now in Obama&#8217;s Shadow Government? Still More Than Russia&#8230; &#171; Frugal Café Blog Zone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 15:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Mass Sterilization, Planetary Regime Washington Post: Obama&#8217;s 32 Czars Stop The ACLU: Obama’s Science Czar: Babies Aren’t Human Until They’ve Been Socialized Chris Burgard, Big Hollywood: Dear Mr. President, Please Don’t Kill My Kids The Bald Chick: Is [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Mass Sterilization, Planetary Regime Washington Post: Obama&#8217;s 32 Czars Stop The ACLU: Obama’s Science Czar: Babies Aren’t Human Until They’ve Been Socialized Chris Burgard, Big Hollywood: Dear Mr. President, Please Don’t Kill My Kids The Bald Chick: Is [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Vocal Minority</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vocal Minority</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 15:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Profiles in Liberal Ignorance, Hate, and Intolerance: Commenter &quot;Samantha&quot;...&lt;/strong&gt;

Wow! Christmas, er, Chanukah came early this year. Back in June I wrote this post castigating pseudo-intellectual comedian Jon Stewart, who on his Daily Show declared that Fox News watchers were “extremists who view the world through sh*t-colored glass...</description>
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<p>Wow! Christmas, er, Chanukah came early this year. Back in June I wrote this post castigating pseudo-intellectual comedian Jon Stewart, who on his Daily Show declared that Fox News watchers were “extremists who view the world through sh*t-colored glass&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Media Ignores Extreme Views of Obama Science Czar &#124; linkthe.com</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2009/07/29/obamas-science-czar-babies-arent-human-until-theyve-been-socialized/comment-page-1/#comment-121966</link>
		<dc:creator>Media Ignores Extreme Views of Obama Science Czar &#124; linkthe.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 05:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] they ignore conspiracy theories and extreme viewpoints espoused by one of Obama&#8217;s top advisors and science czar, John Holdren.  A large part of the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Texson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Texson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 21:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the anti-religionists:
A fetus has unique, human DNA. It can be NOTHING other than a human being. Simple enough?

For the believers: I know it&#039;s hard not to want to beat up on the impudent, blinded and deceived among us, but try to remember that they are only useful dupes, not the real enemy. (Obama, Pelosi and Co. sure do seem like the real enemy, don&#039;t they?)
 
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.  Ephesians 6:12</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the anti-religionists:<br />
A fetus has unique, human DNA. It can be NOTHING other than a human being. Simple enough?</p>
<p>For the believers: I know it&#8217;s hard not to want to beat up on the impudent, blinded and deceived among us, but try to remember that they are only useful dupes, not the real enemy. (Obama, Pelosi and Co. sure do seem like the real enemy, don&#8217;t they?)</p>
<p>For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.  Ephesians 6:12</p>
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