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	<title>Comments on: FiveThirtyEight Throws Out An AGW Challenge</title>
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	<description>Beating Them With Their Own Sickle And Hammer</description>
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		<title>By: DaveinPhoenix</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2009/07/19/fivethirtyeight-throws-out-an-agw-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-121282</link>
		<dc:creator>DaveinPhoenix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 19:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a distinct difference between the terms climate and weather. The fact is that every 125,000 years like clockwork, the Earth&#039;s temperatures and CO2 levels rise - only to fall back to previous levels. The graph of this based on scientific observations is startling in it&#039;s simplicity.

If we keep falling into the trap (as I&#039;ve just done) of having a discussion about climate, instead of the real motivation behind this, then we will fail. 

Everyone knows that this legislation is only for the collection of even more taxpayer money for the enlargement of liberal government. We&#039;ve already lost this argument just as we&#039;ve lost the argument about health care just by accepting the assumption that health care is a &quot;right&quot;. And every single time we open the door just a crack to the liberal salesman, we end up with another ever enlarging, ever growing government run disaster which will be blamed on Republicans(and paid for by future taxpayers) at some point in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a distinct difference between the terms climate and weather. The fact is that every 125,000 years like clockwork, the Earth&#8217;s temperatures and CO2 levels rise &#8211; only to fall back to previous levels. The graph of this based on scientific observations is startling in it&#8217;s simplicity.</p>
<p>If we keep falling into the trap (as I&#8217;ve just done) of having a discussion about climate, instead of the real motivation behind this, then we will fail. </p>
<p>Everyone knows that this legislation is only for the collection of even more taxpayer money for the enlargement of liberal government. We&#8217;ve already lost this argument just as we&#8217;ve lost the argument about health care just by accepting the assumption that health care is a &#8220;right&#8221;. And every single time we open the door just a crack to the liberal salesman, we end up with another ever enlarging, ever growing government run disaster which will be blamed on Republicans(and paid for by future taxpayers) at some point in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnFLob</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are one sick puppy!
How dare you inject true/actual logic, common sense, and most appallingly facts into any discussion of AGW.

Mankind IS the cause of climate change. If we had not invented instruments and devices to measure selected elements of weather we would not know that long term weather patterns (climate) vary over long periods of time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are one sick puppy!<br />
How dare you inject true/actual logic, common sense, and most appallingly facts into any discussion of AGW.</p>
<p>Mankind IS the cause of climate change. If we had not invented instruments and devices to measure selected elements of weather we would not know that long term weather patterns (climate) vary over long periods of time.</p>
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