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	<title>Comments on: Could They Be Wrong On Anthropogenic Global Warming?</title>
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	<description>Beating Them With Their Own Sickle And Hammer</description>
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		<title>By: Carolynp</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2009/07/16/could-they-be-wrong-on-anthropogenic-global-warming/comment-page-1/#comment-121194</link>
		<dc:creator>Carolynp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 20:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coeruleus:  you are wrong.  I have read the bill in question.  It&#039;s quite apparent that you haven&#039;t.  Download the bill.  Read it, assuming that it won&#039;t damage the atmosphere to read the bill.  Don&#039;t be alarmed if you don&#039;t want to be, but don&#039;t insinuate others are wrong for being alarmed.  There are several things that are intended to give the government access to individual households.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coeruleus:  you are wrong.  I have read the bill in question.  It&#8217;s quite apparent that you haven&#8217;t.  Download the bill.  Read it, assuming that it won&#8217;t damage the atmosphere to read the bill.  Don&#8217;t be alarmed if you don&#8217;t want to be, but don&#8217;t insinuate others are wrong for being alarmed.  There are several things that are intended to give the government access to individual households.</p>
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		<title>By: coeruleus</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2009/07/16/could-they-be-wrong-on-anthropogenic-global-warming/comment-page-1/#comment-121192</link>
		<dc:creator>coeruleus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 18:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re entitled to your opinion about everything else on the blog, but racism?  

Yes, I constantly question not only my own science (not climate science, BTW), but anyone else&#039;s as well.  And I will accept it if the data are convincing.  So far there&#039;s not enough out there to sway me, though.  Maybe one day I will be proven wrong, but that&#039;s OK.  

Don&#039;t worry about the economy.  It got messed up at a time when emissions were steadily increasing and it&#039;ll be just fine when emissions decrease.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re entitled to your opinion about everything else on the blog, but racism?  </p>
<p>Yes, I constantly question not only my own science (not climate science, BTW), but anyone else&#8217;s as well.  And I will accept it if the data are convincing.  So far there&#8217;s not enough out there to sway me, though.  Maybe one day I will be proven wrong, but that&#8217;s OK.  </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t worry about the economy.  It got messed up at a time when emissions were steadily increasing and it&#8217;ll be just fine when emissions decrease.</p>
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		<title>By: sigma fraud</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2009/07/16/could-they-be-wrong-on-anthropogenic-global-warming/comment-page-1/#comment-121191</link>
		<dc:creator>sigma fraud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>coeruleus, I just read some of your blog. I didn&#039;t get a chance for an in-depth reading. All I found were attacks on science and/or any conservative who questions global warming - with a judicious mix of snarky ad hominems, quasi-reasoning, and latent racism.

Is there any amount of scientific evidence that you would accept to change your personal conclusions about global warming?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>coeruleus, I just read some of your blog. I didn&#8217;t get a chance for an in-depth reading. All I found were attacks on science and/or any conservative who questions global warming &#8211; with a judicious mix of snarky ad hominems, quasi-reasoning, and latent racism.</p>
<p>Is there any amount of scientific evidence that you would accept to change your personal conclusions about global warming?</p>
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		<title>By: sigma fraud</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2009/07/16/could-they-be-wrong-on-anthropogenic-global-warming/comment-page-1/#comment-121190</link>
		<dc:creator>sigma fraud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;That’d mean that current climate models may actually paint too-rosy a picture of what might happen in the future.&quot;

That&#039;d also mean that current climate models actually may not paint too-rosy a picture of what might happen in the future.

If you accept the research, then the only conclusion is that the current climate models are incorrect. Therefore, why should we turn the economy on it&#039;s head based on incorrect climate models?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;That’d mean that current climate models may actually paint too-rosy a picture of what might happen in the future.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;d also mean that current climate models actually may not paint too-rosy a picture of what might happen in the future.</p>
<p>If you accept the research, then the only conclusion is that the current climate models are incorrect. Therefore, why should we turn the economy on it&#8217;s head based on incorrect climate models?</p>
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		<title>By: coeruleus</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2009/07/16/could-they-be-wrong-on-anthropogenic-global-warming/comment-page-1/#comment-121188</link>
		<dc:creator>coeruleus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The bill does no such thing.  You&#039;re still entirely free to waste as much energy as you&#039;d like in your own home.  

One thing that provides nearly endless entertainment are people like you two, who on the one hand attempt to &quot;debunk&quot; &quot;alarmist&quot; climate models while at the same time using alarmist economic models to exaggerate the threat of climate legislation.  Seriously, if things were to become as draconian as you suggest, there&#039;s a way of fixing that: vote.  OTOH, if the climate models are correct, there&#039;s very little hope of fixing that.  

This relates to the climate model discussion in this post: the author is quoted as saying that &quot;feedback loops&quot; may have caused the additional (non-CO2 induced) warming.  In other words, it&#039;s possible that with a little bit of CO2-induced warming, processes were set into motion that caused additional warming.  That&#039;d mean that current climate models may actually paint too-rosy a picture of what might happen in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bill does no such thing.  You&#8217;re still entirely free to waste as much energy as you&#8217;d like in your own home.  </p>
<p>One thing that provides nearly endless entertainment are people like you two, who on the one hand attempt to &#8220;debunk&#8221; &#8220;alarmist&#8221; climate models while at the same time using alarmist economic models to exaggerate the threat of climate legislation.  Seriously, if things were to become as draconian as you suggest, there&#8217;s a way of fixing that: vote.  OTOH, if the climate models are correct, there&#8217;s very little hope of fixing that.  </p>
<p>This relates to the climate model discussion in this post: the author is quoted as saying that &#8220;feedback loops&#8221; may have caused the additional (non-CO2 induced) warming.  In other words, it&#8217;s possible that with a little bit of CO2-induced warming, processes were set into motion that caused additional warming.  That&#8217;d mean that current climate models may actually paint too-rosy a picture of what might happen in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Carolynp</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2009/07/16/could-they-be-wrong-on-anthropogenic-global-warming/comment-page-1/#comment-121184</link>
		<dc:creator>Carolynp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You’re being in the least bit…uhm…alarmist, now are you?

You should read HR 2454 if you think this is exaggerated.  The bill is designed to give the government access to your house, business, and every other thing.  A war was fought over this in the late 1700s.  You should be alarmed!  Wake up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You’re being in the least bit…uhm…alarmist, now are you?</p>
<p>You should read HR 2454 if you think this is exaggerated.  The bill is designed to give the government access to your house, business, and every other thing.  A war was fought over this in the late 1700s.  You should be alarmed!  Wake up!</p>
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		<title>By: William Teach</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2009/07/16/could-they-be-wrong-on-anthropogenic-global-warming/comment-page-1/#comment-121183</link>
		<dc:creator>William Teach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps, but, what else is the point? None of the plans actually accomplish a true reduction in temperature. Nor do they actually provide adequate clean energy for the future. All they do is provide control.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps, but, what else is the point? None of the plans actually accomplish a true reduction in temperature. Nor do they actually provide adequate clean energy for the future. All they do is provide control.</p>
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		<title>By: coeruleus</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2009/07/16/could-they-be-wrong-on-anthropogenic-global-warming/comment-page-1/#comment-121182</link>
		<dc:creator>coeruleus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Meanwhile, their true goal is control. Control of economies (because Business is bad), control of countries (because countries are bad), and control of People (because people are too stupid to know what they should do.) The United States is 10 years behind the curve in doing things to destroy and limit our economy and control our people for this false issue, so, we are going to attempt the same draconian controls that most of the Kyoto signatory countries tried, and are now moving away from.&lt;/i&gt;

Sounds scary to me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Meanwhile, their true goal is control. Control of economies (because Business is bad), control of countries (because countries are bad), and control of People (because people are too stupid to know what they should do.) The United States is 10 years behind the curve in doing things to destroy and limit our economy and control our people for this false issue, so, we are going to attempt the same draconian controls that most of the Kyoto signatory countries tried, and are now moving away from.</i></p>
<p>Sounds scary to me!</p>
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		<title>By: William Teach</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2009/07/16/could-they-be-wrong-on-anthropogenic-global-warming/comment-page-1/#comment-121179</link>
		<dc:creator>William Teach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How so?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How so?</p>
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		<title>By: coeruleus</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2009/07/16/could-they-be-wrong-on-anthropogenic-global-warming/comment-page-1/#comment-121177</link>
		<dc:creator>coeruleus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re being in the least bit...uhm...alarmist, now are you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re being in the least bit&#8230;uhm&#8230;alarmist, now are you?</p>
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