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	<title>Comments on: Honduras Defending Constitution: Constitutional Succession &#8211; Defending Democracy</title>
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		<title>By: Maggie Thornton</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2009/06/30/honduras-defending-constitution-constitutional-succession-defending-democracy/comment-page-1/#comment-123914</link>
		<dc:creator>Maggie Thornton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 04:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hector, thank you for your two comments. I appreciate your taking the time to lay out this information. It seems that Micheletti and the Congress are going to stand strong. I hope they have their ear to the ground and are prepared for all events. It looks like Obama has backed off insisting that Zelaya be placed back in office. It is inspiring that Honduras has been able to brave the international criticism, and I hope as you say, this might be the end of Chavez. The Venezuelan people need to take their country back.

Again thank you for this. I would like to post your reply on my blog, Maggie&#039;s Notebook. Would you take a look and let me know if this would be permissible? There is a search box in the top left corner and if you enter zelaya and micheletti, it will bring up what I have previously written.
http://maggiesnotebook.blogspot.com,
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hector, thank you for your two comments. I appreciate your taking the time to lay out this information. It seems that Micheletti and the Congress are going to stand strong. I hope they have their ear to the ground and are prepared for all events. It looks like Obama has backed off insisting that Zelaya be placed back in office. It is inspiring that Honduras has been able to brave the international criticism, and I hope as you say, this might be the end of Chavez. The Venezuelan people need to take their country back.</p>
<p>Again thank you for this. I would like to post your reply on my blog, Maggie&#8217;s Notebook. Would you take a look and let me know if this would be permissible? There is a search box in the top left corner and if you enter zelaya and micheletti, it will bring up what I have previously written.<br />
<a href="http://maggiesnotebook.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://maggiesnotebook.blogspot.com</a>,<br />
<a href="mailto:maggiesnotebook@cox.net">maggiesnotebook@cox.net</a></p>
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		<title>By: Héctor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Héctor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many focus on Article No. 239 to legally support Zelaya’s constitutional ousting; however, his constitutional crimes start with Article No. 2, please read below: 
 
Article No. 2: Sovereignty of the people from which emanates all powers are exercised by representation. Imposture of popular sovereignty and the usurping of power are 
classified as crimes of treason; the liability in such cases is imprescriptibly and may be deducted automatically or at the request of any citizen.

Zelaya did not recognized peoples’ sovereignty representation in the other two democratic constitutional powers (Legislative and Judiciary), he though the executive branch was all mighty, encouraged by all the backing he was getting from Dictator Hugo Chavez and the Castro Brothers, and, as by doing so, Zelaya committed a crime of treason. 

An example of him not recognizing the other two powers was his disobedience to the ruling from a judge against his proposal to carry out a Peoples Consult (First Executive Decree), not a referendum, to establish a Constitutional Assembly to reform the 1982 Honduran Constitution, he and his cabinet appeal getting the same response. You judge if this is a complete disrespect and disregard of the Judiciary.

Such actions can be deduct automatically, and as these crimes do not prescribe before the Honduran Rule of Law, Zelaya, therefore, still has a pending trial, furthermore, such trial can be requested by any citizen who considered himself or herself an honest and patriotic Honduran.

Article No. 239: A citizen who becomes president of the Executive Branch cannot be reelected as president or as presidential designee of the Executive Branch. Anyone who violates this provision or PROPOSES a reform, and those who support it directly or indirectly, immediately cease in their public duties, and will be disqualified for ten years to exercise any public function.

All Zelaya’s followers argue that he did not want to remain one more day after his constitutional term in office, as he had repeated it again and again, a lie that his Venezuelan Master Hugo Chavez carry out to destroy Venezuela’s democracy. Zelaya also a pathological liar argue that he only wanted to do “simple” reforms to the Constitution in those articles that do not allow a more socially fair and democratic society.

However, Zelaya put himself above the Law when he violated the provision in this article and also conspire to reform it. The evidence, Zelaya unilaterally published a second Executive Decree called “Opinion Poll to Establish a Constitutional Assembly” in the Government of Honduras Official News Paper (La Gaceta) Friday night June 26th, triggering the events of June 28th.

When he argued that his opinion poll was no-binding with the proposal of establishing a Constitutional Assembly to reform the Constitution, if fact it was, his decree title says so and the content of it is also strong evidence that is was binding. The OAS and the hypocrite International Community should come to Honduras to check this evidence.

At the moment of Zelaya’s capture, he was no longer president of Honduras, as you can read from the above, violating this specific provision or only by proposing to reform Article 239 anyone would immediately ceased being president, in fact Congress and the Supreme Court were benevolent to all of Zelaya’s earlier transgressions, naïve or incompetent. 

Many political and religious leaders told Zelaya not to continue with his proposal, the US Ambassador told him not to, but he was so filled of himself and highly motivated by his lavish advisors, many were expecting him to change his position and finish his term, but he was blinded, full of power and continue doing so, with the consequences we all know.

Now, the International Community is pushing back into power a crook (50 million Lempiras were taken out in a cart from the Honduran Central Bank to finance the opinion poll and 500 million Lempiras were used to paid the media campaign for his project), a drug abuser (his close friends and relatives say he is a drug user, there are other witnesses also), a megalomaniac (the man though he was almighty and invulnerable, in his mind he was out of reach from the long arm of the law) and a traitor (there are plenty evidences that he had a very close relationship with Hugo Chavez, a sworn enemy of the US).

Finally, a highly concerning truth is that helping Zelaya means providing support to Chavez, if Zelaya does not come back or he does to face trial; Chavez will have has his Waterloo in Honduras.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many focus on Article No. 239 to legally support Zelaya’s constitutional ousting; however, his constitutional crimes start with Article No. 2, please read below: </p>
<p>Article No. 2: Sovereignty of the people from which emanates all powers are exercised by representation. Imposture of popular sovereignty and the usurping of power are<br />
classified as crimes of treason; the liability in such cases is imprescriptibly and may be deducted automatically or at the request of any citizen.</p>
<p>Zelaya did not recognized peoples’ sovereignty representation in the other two democratic constitutional powers (Legislative and Judiciary), he though the executive branch was all mighty, encouraged by all the backing he was getting from Dictator Hugo Chavez and the Castro Brothers, and, as by doing so, Zelaya committed a crime of treason. </p>
<p>An example of him not recognizing the other two powers was his disobedience to the ruling from a judge against his proposal to carry out a Peoples Consult (First Executive Decree), not a referendum, to establish a Constitutional Assembly to reform the 1982 Honduran Constitution, he and his cabinet appeal getting the same response. You judge if this is a complete disrespect and disregard of the Judiciary.</p>
<p>Such actions can be deduct automatically, and as these crimes do not prescribe before the Honduran Rule of Law, Zelaya, therefore, still has a pending trial, furthermore, such trial can be requested by any citizen who considered himself or herself an honest and patriotic Honduran.</p>
<p>Article No. 239: A citizen who becomes president of the Executive Branch cannot be reelected as president or as presidential designee of the Executive Branch. Anyone who violates this provision or PROPOSES a reform, and those who support it directly or indirectly, immediately cease in their public duties, and will be disqualified for ten years to exercise any public function.</p>
<p>All Zelaya’s followers argue that he did not want to remain one more day after his constitutional term in office, as he had repeated it again and again, a lie that his Venezuelan Master Hugo Chavez carry out to destroy Venezuela’s democracy. Zelaya also a pathological liar argue that he only wanted to do “simple” reforms to the Constitution in those articles that do not allow a more socially fair and democratic society.</p>
<p>However, Zelaya put himself above the Law when he violated the provision in this article and also conspire to reform it. The evidence, Zelaya unilaterally published a second Executive Decree called “Opinion Poll to Establish a Constitutional Assembly” in the Government of Honduras Official News Paper (La Gaceta) Friday night June 26th, triggering the events of June 28th.</p>
<p>When he argued that his opinion poll was no-binding with the proposal of establishing a Constitutional Assembly to reform the Constitution, if fact it was, his decree title says so and the content of it is also strong evidence that is was binding. The OAS and the hypocrite International Community should come to Honduras to check this evidence.</p>
<p>At the moment of Zelaya’s capture, he was no longer president of Honduras, as you can read from the above, violating this specific provision or only by proposing to reform Article 239 anyone would immediately ceased being president, in fact Congress and the Supreme Court were benevolent to all of Zelaya’s earlier transgressions, naïve or incompetent. </p>
<p>Many political and religious leaders told Zelaya not to continue with his proposal, the US Ambassador told him not to, but he was so filled of himself and highly motivated by his lavish advisors, many were expecting him to change his position and finish his term, but he was blinded, full of power and continue doing so, with the consequences we all know.</p>
<p>Now, the International Community is pushing back into power a crook (50 million Lempiras were taken out in a cart from the Honduran Central Bank to finance the opinion poll and 500 million Lempiras were used to paid the media campaign for his project), a drug abuser (his close friends and relatives say he is a drug user, there are other witnesses also), a megalomaniac (the man though he was almighty and invulnerable, in his mind he was out of reach from the long arm of the law) and a traitor (there are plenty evidences that he had a very close relationship with Hugo Chavez, a sworn enemy of the US).</p>
<p>Finally, a highly concerning truth is that helping Zelaya means providing support to Chavez, if Zelaya does not come back or he does to face trial; Chavez will have has his Waterloo in Honduras.</p>
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		<title>By: Héctor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Héctor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 17:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zelaya broke every law in the country. He began breaking the Constitutional Law by not presenting to National Congress the Honduras’ General Budget for fiscal year 2009, due in September 2008, and at the time he was constitutionally removed the budget had not been submitted to Congress.

Why did he not present a budget? He was manipulating and twisting arms of anyone on his way, specifically the Honduras’ Congress, Supreme Court and Army. Zelaya did not deliver cash from the national treasure to Congress, to pay congressman and congresswoman, for three (3) consecutive months.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zelaya broke every law in the country. He began breaking the Constitutional Law by not presenting to National Congress the Honduras’ General Budget for fiscal year 2009, due in September 2008, and at the time he was constitutionally removed the budget had not been submitted to Congress.</p>
<p>Why did he not present a budget? He was manipulating and twisting arms of anyone on his way, specifically the Honduras’ Congress, Supreme Court and Army. Zelaya did not deliver cash from the national treasure to Congress, to pay congressman and congresswoman, for three (3) consecutive months.</p>
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		<title>By: Evangeline</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evangeline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 14:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bravo to the people of Honduras for standing up for their Constitution. Perhaps Obama and the like are afraid that this defending of democracy will be catching.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo to the people of Honduras for standing up for their Constitution. Perhaps Obama and the like are afraid that this defending of democracy will be catching.</p>
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		<title>By: Maggie Thornton</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2009/06/30/honduras-defending-constitution-constitutional-succession-defending-democracy/comment-page-1/#comment-119454</link>
		<dc:creator>Maggie Thornton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 18:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you.</p>
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