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	<title>Comments on: Obama Would Not Pledge His Family to His Own Healthcare Plan</title>
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	<description>Beating Them With Their Own Sickle And Hammer</description>
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		<title>By: james</title>
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		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 02:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how many trillions is weak obama going to borrow from china until they own us???? he appeased russia the same country that says it will use nuclear weapons doctrine which says strike first even if that enemy nation doesnt use nukes but russia declared it will use nuclear weapons on local wars or any war for now on and this is nation we want to be friends with a dictatorship one of many that obama has appeased. HE damn disgrace</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how many trillions is weak obama going to borrow from china until they own us???? he appeased russia the same country that says it will use nuclear weapons doctrine which says strike first even if that enemy nation doesnt use nukes but russia declared it will use nuclear weapons on local wars or any war for now on and this is nation we want to be friends with a dictatorship one of many that obama has appeased. HE damn disgrace</p>
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		<title>By: james</title>
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		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 02:50:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You ever notice that blacks will support obama no matter what. Most of those blacks that voted for him was out of loyality to skin color they wanted black man in office so bad no matter if he was weak or bad. Even if he did most horrible things he will never lose black support no matter what even if he molested some kid which he didnt. So on every forum most of the people who stick up for obama are mostly blacks and some whites but thats dropping because obama is all talk and now he just so weak he never be able to fight his own party and he already appeases too much i mean alot of countries dont fear him they think he weak so they push him over. Any country that opposes obama he will just give up and give in to demands he done it so many times. HE is weak like carter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You ever notice that blacks will support obama no matter what. Most of those blacks that voted for him was out of loyality to skin color they wanted black man in office so bad no matter if he was weak or bad. Even if he did most horrible things he will never lose black support no matter what even if he molested some kid which he didnt. So on every forum most of the people who stick up for obama are mostly blacks and some whites but thats dropping because obama is all talk and now he just so weak he never be able to fight his own party and he already appeases too much i mean alot of countries dont fear him they think he weak so they push him over. Any country that opposes obama he will just give up and give in to demands he done it so many times. HE is weak like carter</p>
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		<title>By: ROBERT CASE</title>
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		<dc:creator>ROBERT CASE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 05:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If their lips are moving, they are lying.  ALL OF THEM!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If their lips are moving, they are lying.  ALL OF THEM!</p>
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		<title>By: MEO</title>
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		<dc:creator>MEO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 22:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this is a dodge but I would have liked a more direct &quot;will you put you &amp; your family and congress in this plan?&quot;  But Congress did vote down an amendment that would have included them!  This is an insult to we the people.  People write your representatives and call.  We just can&#039;t let them steamroll over us again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is a dodge but I would have liked a more direct &#8220;will you put you &amp; your family and congress in this plan?&#8221;  But Congress did vote down an amendment that would have included them!  This is an insult to we the people.  People write your representatives and call.  We just can&#8217;t let them steamroll over us again.</p>
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		<title>By: MTR</title>
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		<dc:creator>MTR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 18:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have any of you morons who drone on and on about how horrible health care is in Europe even BEEN to Europe, much less used the health care system there? I HAVE and I can tell you for a fact that it is INFINTELY better than what we have here, and at a lower cost! Quit being the lemmings that corporate media is making you into just so the corportate interests (i.e. PROFITS) are not undermined. God forbid we should help people get medical benefits and save everyone money and instead let the insurance companies and for-profit hospitals and pharmacutical companies continue to rake in their record profits! Yeah, that&#039;s the way to a better country. Did the last eight years teach you NOTHING?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have any of you morons who drone on and on about how horrible health care is in Europe even BEEN to Europe, much less used the health care system there? I HAVE and I can tell you for a fact that it is INFINTELY better than what we have here, and at a lower cost! Quit being the lemmings that corporate media is making you into just so the corportate interests (i.e. PROFITS) are not undermined. God forbid we should help people get medical benefits and save everyone money and instead let the insurance companies and for-profit hospitals and pharmacutical companies continue to rake in their record profits! Yeah, that&#8217;s the way to a better country. Did the last eight years teach you NOTHING?!</p>
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		<title>By: Ross Wolf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ross Wolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 20:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama Government Might Need Our Assets Soon: I can see it coming. After Obama has most everyone covered by taxpayer subsidized health insurance, Obama will say, &quot;People, it does not make sense that government health insurance is paying to make poor people healthy, then have those people end up on the street to get sick again. People, government needs to provide taxpayer subsidized housing for at least 12 million people in the U. S. Tonight I wish to bring to your attention that a few thousand Americans own huge amounts of land in the U.S. not being used for anything, while millions go homeless. What I propose is a non-use tax to be levied against landowners that own non-performing property: this tax will help pay for low-income housing. In addition I propose a valuation tax on middle income Americans so they can also help poor and disadvantaged Americans. Just think, you will be part of my Revolution. Did I promise you Change?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama Government Might Need Our Assets Soon: I can see it coming. After Obama has most everyone covered by taxpayer subsidized health insurance, Obama will say, &#8220;People, it does not make sense that government health insurance is paying to make poor people healthy, then have those people end up on the street to get sick again. People, government needs to provide taxpayer subsidized housing for at least 12 million people in the U. S. Tonight I wish to bring to your attention that a few thousand Americans own huge amounts of land in the U.S. not being used for anything, while millions go homeless. What I propose is a non-use tax to be levied against landowners that own non-performing property: this tax will help pay for low-income housing. In addition I propose a valuation tax on middle income Americans so they can also help poor and disadvantaged Americans. Just think, you will be part of my Revolution. Did I promise you Change?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Tinberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan Tinberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 22:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was a political answers, which is not answering the question asked.  He NEVER answered the questions.  Only rambled over and over again about nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was a political answers, which is not answering the question asked.  He NEVER answered the questions.  Only rambled over and over again about nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: Would you Trust your Family with Obamacare? Obama Wouldn&#8217;t &#171; Rantings of mine</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2009/06/25/obama-would-not-pledge-his-family-to-his-own-healthcare-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-119354</link>
		<dc:creator>Would you Trust your Family with Obamacare? Obama Wouldn&#8217;t &#171; Rantings of mine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 15:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] leave a comment &#187;  Which is a good reason to stop this waste of tax money. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: E.T.</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2009/06/25/obama-would-not-pledge-his-family-to-his-own-healthcare-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-119308</link>
		<dc:creator>E.T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ladies and gentlemen, 

 If we asked a ceo or a share holder if they or somebody in their immediate family would take any job offered by their company of which they are - necessarily - so proud, what might they say ? They would probably point out that their company offers some of the indispensable chances at earning a living to many of their hard-working compatriots, and that can&#039;t be dismissed just because it is not going to make these employees rich. Those same business leaders would elegantly avoid to point out that their own position in life, achievements, assets, connections, etc., would make that scenario unrealistic.

 Do the millions of uninsured deserve their fate ? Do their children deserve it too ? Is it their problem alone ? I suppose all sides would (publicly) agree it is not. The disagreement is on how to do it ... One could ask: what takes them so long ? They&#039;d say it&#039;s the other party that prevents the implementation of their thoughtful ideas. 

 Could it be Jack Swigert was right, up there in space, well beyond his intended meaning ? 

&quot;They don&#039;t know how to do it ...&quot;.

 Is a doctor and researcher trying to be politically efficient, when asking such a question, or ? Is that all he would say, or is it the media, who truncated his contribution ? Or is it me, who didn&#039;t try to make absolutely certain I knew for sure his actual opinion ? 

Dr. Devinsky ?

Thanks.

P.S.

I watched/listened to President Obama&#039;s reply. Do you see it as dishonest ? Incompetent ? 

For a university professor at a reasonable school in 2009, on a &quot;Choice&quot; health plan, removing 2 earwax plugs with two shots of - presumably sterilized - water cost Cygna over $100.00. A routine cholesterol &amp; blood test: nearly $1,000.00. 

 Is the plan the President advocates going to be mandatory, in the sense that people could not drop it at any point later, if they wanted to switch to another, private provider ? Why don&#039;t I see/hear that stated clearly ?</description>
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<p> If we asked a ceo or a share holder if they or somebody in their immediate family would take any job offered by their company of which they are &#8211; necessarily &#8211; so proud, what might they say ? They would probably point out that their company offers some of the indispensable chances at earning a living to many of their hard-working compatriots, and that can&#8217;t be dismissed just because it is not going to make these employees rich. Those same business leaders would elegantly avoid to point out that their own position in life, achievements, assets, connections, etc., would make that scenario unrealistic.</p>
<p> Do the millions of uninsured deserve their fate ? Do their children deserve it too ? Is it their problem alone ? I suppose all sides would (publicly) agree it is not. The disagreement is on how to do it &#8230; One could ask: what takes them so long ? They&#8217;d say it&#8217;s the other party that prevents the implementation of their thoughtful ideas. </p>
<p> Could it be Jack Swigert was right, up there in space, well beyond his intended meaning ? </p>
<p>&#8220;They don&#8217;t know how to do it &#8230;&#8221;.</p>
<p> Is a doctor and researcher trying to be politically efficient, when asking such a question, or ? Is that all he would say, or is it the media, who truncated his contribution ? Or is it me, who didn&#8217;t try to make absolutely certain I knew for sure his actual opinion ? </p>
<p>Dr. Devinsky ?</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
<p>P.S.</p>
<p>I watched/listened to President Obama&#8217;s reply. Do you see it as dishonest ? Incompetent ? </p>
<p>For a university professor at a reasonable school in 2009, on a &#8220;Choice&#8221; health plan, removing 2 earwax plugs with two shots of &#8211; presumably sterilized &#8211; water cost Cygna over $100.00. A routine cholesterol &amp; blood test: nearly $1,000.00. </p>
<p> Is the plan the President advocates going to be mandatory, in the sense that people could not drop it at any point later, if they wanted to switch to another, private provider ? Why don&#8217;t I see/hear that stated clearly ?</p>
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		<title>By: janetlane</title>
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		<dc:creator>janetlane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 12:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>im against the bill if its for the people it should be for the president and his family as well. im against the bill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>im against the bill if its for the people it should be for the president and his family as well. im against the bill.</p>
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