Baby Killer Debra Gindorf Set Free
You know liberals like what you’ve done when they bestow upon you their ultimate honor: victim status. Take Debra Gindorf, for example. Lots of women kill their kids in the womb, or halfway outside the womb, but Gindorf killed her son and daughter when they were 3 and 23 months, respectively.
Back in the 1980s, the justice system was insensitive enough to sentence her to life without the possibility of parole. But until murderers have been executed, there’s no guarantee that liberals won’t set them free — which Illinois Governor Pat Quinn has now done for Gindorf.
Moonbat activists are “ebullient” about this travesty of justice. According to their ideology, the dead children aren’t the victims — Gindorf is. After her trial had finished, someone got the idea that she had been oppressed by postpartum depression — i.e., by motherhood itself. Like Andrea Yates, who has been publicly idolized by MSM princess Katie Cupcake, this granted Gindorf a license to kill.
Bobby Rush, the former Black Panther militant who is now a Congressman and prominent advocate of Cuban-style communism and repealing the Second Amendment, is also a big fan of “postpartum-awareness issues.” He crows that Gindorf’s release is
a significant step in recognizing some of the important issues as they relate to new mothers’ health.
Murdering your own children is now a “health” issue even after the children have been born. Down the slippery slope to hell on earth we go.
On a tip from MP. Cross-posted at Moonbattery.
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Posted by Van Helsing on May 5, 2009 3:18 pm
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It amazes me how many people will judge and put themselves in God`s shoes without knowing the whole story. I knew Debra when she was a teenager, and had suffered severe abuse from her mother. I know she truly tried to kill herself and her children at the same time, at the time she killed her children she had been in and out of the psych wards from the time as a teen for depression. She truly did suffer from post partum depression. She should have never been put in prison in the first place but in a hospital to get the help she so desperately needed and did not recieve as a victom of abuse herself, she was poor and sadly did not recieve the proper help. I pray to God that those who would judge without a complete picture of the things that transpired and occured never fall prey to mental illiness yourselves.
SORRY The jury found her guilty The app court supports the ruling.. GIVE her the happy injection
Awww, she was abused as a child and depressed as a teen and therefore, gee, it’s perfectly reasonable for her to off her kids. Plenty of other people were abused and depressed and don’t kill their kids or anyone else. She made a decision to have children. She had a responsibility to be a mom, not a murderer. Period. The fact is that just about every murderer had a bad childhood and/or has some mental issue(s). The fact is that millions of other people had bad childhoods and mental issues and don’t murder people. So we either have to no longer put anyone in prison for any crime because they are absolved of responsibility because of their background and/or biology, or, stop arbitrarily designating certain groups as protected from prosecution for committing crimes that other groups are found guilty of.
I mean we could point to the fact that black males are much more likely to get the death sentence for murders than anyone else. We could also point to the fact that black males probably, on average, have worse childhoods than others (given higher incidence of absent fathers, poverty, drugs and gangs in the neighborhood, etc.). Black males are not absolved of responsibility for murdering people despite having legitimate gripes about their circumstances in life. But a white mom who murders a baby or two, she gets off because she had it bad. Racist, no? So let’s cut the crap and admit that everyone is responsible for their actions. You kill a baby, you are a murderer. There is no extenuating circumstance that justifies it. And FYI, there is no helping this woman, psych ward or not. She’s a monster and whether or not she regrets being a monster isn’t going to change that fact.
I am a physician and I have provided mental health care. Debra Gindorf did not JUST HAVE DEPRESSION. She was psychotic at the time of the murder. She is innocent by reason of temporary insanity. Insanity is a LEGITIMATE defense as we don’t hold persons accountable for what they don’t understand, just as we would never hold a five year old accountable for murder.
Ms. Gindorf has been examined by a dozen or so psychiatrists after she was sentenced and EVEN the psychiatrist who testified against her now states that we did not understand post-partum psychosis 24 years ago. It is an illness that hits about 1/1000 mothers shortly after the birth of a child due to pregnancy hormones inducing hallucinations and delusions. The person may belief they are hearing God tell them to murder their kids as the earth is inhabited by devils or other really crazy things. I once treated a man with psychosis who was shaking in fear because he kept hearing the “devil” telling him that he was going to be “barbecued”. This kept him up day and night until he was so sleep deprived it made things worse and he really didn’t know where he was. On medication these auditory hallucinations went away.
Mental illness is real. Hallucinations and delusions can happen. There are medications that successfully treat this illness. Post-partum psychosis (not just depression) goes away within a year after the pregnancy hormones disappear. We do not understand the exact nature of the chemical imbalances in the brain caused by the pregnancy hormones.
Debra Gindorf loved her children, took good care of them and only when she, in a delusional state, had decided to kill herself and her mother, relatives, and friends refused to reassure her that the kids would be taken care of when she was gone, and she didn’t get mental health care because she couldn’t afford the cost of transportation to the clinic, did her condition worsen and she became delusional that if she committed suicide then her children would suffer great harm. She truly believed that she was rescuing them by killing them.
I’m very sad for those on this web site that are so cruel in their thought and barbaric to believe that mental illness does not exist and that people never suffer from illness that interferes with their thought processes to the point they are not in control of their actions.
Get over it loser. Debra has regained her freedom.
The court could find no evidence that debbie was ever in a mental hospital as a child or a young adult I was at her trial I know. As you yourself stated she was ill prior to PPD if it was truly PPD sounds more like a longterm mental disorder just like her natural mother had and PPD is a good excuse for planning to kill
Trials have a way of hiding the truth. It doesn’t really matter if she suffered repeated depression. Depression is long term and recurrent. Post-partum psychosis is real, short term, and can only recur during another pregnancy. It is also treatable. Unfortunately Debra Gindorf didn’t get the treatment or support she needed to avoid this complication of post-partum psychosis – attempted suicide and injury/death to those around the person.
Your right trials do have a way of hiding things but so do psychotic people. Debbie was the one who told the courts she was in and out of mental hospitals as a child/adult the also have a way of remembering the facts they want to remember them. PPD and PPP last for different amount of periods. Now PPP may have contributed to her murdering Chrissy and Jason but she was mental prior to the murders so it doesn’t explain it