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	<title>Comments on: Torture Documents: Who Cares Part II</title>
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	<description>Beating Them With Their Own Sickle And Hammer</description>
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		<title>By: Mary Lou Welz</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2009/04/19/torture-documents-who-cares-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-116693</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Lou Welz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 13:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was explained to me that after 9/11 we had the right to chop off the enemy&#039;s head after we kidnapped him/her.
But that allowance was only for a little while.

Oh wait! That was not us with the permission slips.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was explained to me that after 9/11 we had the right to chop off the enemy&#8217;s head after we kidnapped him/her.<br />
But that allowance was only for a little while.</p>
<p>Oh wait! That was not us with the permission slips.</p>
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		<title>By: Noticer</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2009/04/19/torture-documents-who-cares-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-116682</link>
		<dc:creator>Noticer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 06:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone noticed that the 183 times they say they waterboarded KSM was nearly equal to the 184 people who died at the Pentagon in the 9/11 attacks?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone noticed that the 183 times they say they waterboarded KSM was nearly equal to the 184 people who died at the Pentagon in the 9/11 attacks?</p>
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		<title>By: LWeisenthal</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2009/04/19/torture-documents-who-cares-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-116681</link>
		<dc:creator>LWeisenthal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 06:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment from Huffpo:

&gt;&gt;LANGLEY, VA: Confirming reports that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was waterboarded 183 times in one month in 2003, CIA officials officially stated that America had been put in grave peril by the agency stopping just shy of the &#039;magic number&#039; of 184 waterboarding sessions during that month.

&gt;&gt;&quot;We were really close with KSM -- maybe just a Super Big Gulp of water away from breaking a number of major cases wide open&quot; said officials. &quot;Before we were pulled back. Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was about to tell us who assassinated JFK, why Building 7 collapsed at the World Trade Center and was also about to solve an episode of Cold Case where a closeted gay high school athlete was found dead on the basketball court in 1953.&quot;&lt;&lt;

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lee-stranahan/cia-official-waterboard-1_b_188660.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment from Huffpo:</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;LANGLEY, VA: Confirming reports that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was waterboarded 183 times in one month in 2003, CIA officials officially stated that America had been put in grave peril by the agency stopping just shy of the &#8216;magic number&#8217; of 184 waterboarding sessions during that month.</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;&#8221;We were really close with KSM &#8212; maybe just a Super Big Gulp of water away from breaking a number of major cases wide open&#8221; said officials. &#8220;Before we were pulled back. Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was about to tell us who assassinated JFK, why Building 7 collapsed at the World Trade Center and was also about to solve an episode of Cold Case where a closeted gay high school athlete was found dead on the basketball court in 1953.&#8221;&lt;&lt;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lee-stranahan/cia-official-waterboard-1_b_188660.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lee-stranahan/cia-official-waterboard-1_b_188660.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: snaggletoothie</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2009/04/19/torture-documents-who-cares-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-116667</link>
		<dc:creator>snaggletoothie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 21:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;“Moral superiority is one of the lefties favorite pastimes.”

&quot;That’s not at all hard to do in comparison to today’s conservative movement.&quot;

A keyboard and an inflated and entitled sense of moral superiority really doesn&#039;t make you anything but some poor lost guy who finds his meaning in accusing others and denigrating his political opponents.  That you would imagine that such statements could be true of all conservatives indicates that your problem is probably psychiatric.  Get more rest, drink more fluids and avoid stressful situations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;“Moral superiority is one of the lefties favorite pastimes.”</p>
<p>&#8220;That’s not at all hard to do in comparison to today’s conservative movement.&#8221;</p>
<p>A keyboard and an inflated and entitled sense of moral superiority really doesn&#8217;t make you anything but some poor lost guy who finds his meaning in accusing others and denigrating his political opponents.  That you would imagine that such statements could be true of all conservatives indicates that your problem is probably psychiatric.  Get more rest, drink more fluids and avoid stressful situations.</p>
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		<title>By: William Teach</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2009/04/19/torture-documents-who-cares-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-116664</link>
		<dc:creator>William Teach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 21:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rule of Law, keep in mind that the Constitution applies to American citizens and those in the process of becoming Citizens. Not stone cold AQ members. 

As far as spying goes, you are misinterpreting what actually happened, Tom, as did the media, left wing sites, and Democrat legislators, who, BTW, knew about the Terrorist Surveillance Program. Many where involved in asking the NY Times to not reveal the program.

PS: no need to apologize.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rule of Law, keep in mind that the Constitution applies to American citizens and those in the process of becoming Citizens. Not stone cold AQ members. </p>
<p>As far as spying goes, you are misinterpreting what actually happened, Tom, as did the media, left wing sites, and Democrat legislators, who, BTW, knew about the Terrorist Surveillance Program. Many where involved in asking the NY Times to not reveal the program.</p>
<p>PS: no need to apologize.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 20:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rule of Law: Excellent points but do keep in mind that the rule of law is only what Rush and Beck define it to be for some people. Spying on Americans without warrant is cool if you are told it is by those who supply your critical thinking.

bear1909: You wouldn&#039;t know what fascism is if you studied. Why? Because your sources are Beck and Jonah Goldberg whose job is to mold your opinions and protect the ideology not educate.

Teach: I apologize, I thought moonbat and moonies were different words. They seem to be spelled differently even if they are used for the same smear as you say. My post stands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rule of Law: Excellent points but do keep in mind that the rule of law is only what Rush and Beck define it to be for some people. Spying on Americans without warrant is cool if you are told it is by those who supply your critical thinking.</p>
<p>bear1909: You wouldn&#8217;t know what fascism is if you studied. Why? Because your sources are Beck and Jonah Goldberg whose job is to mold your opinions and protect the ideology not educate.</p>
<p>Teach: I apologize, I thought moonbat and moonies were different words. They seem to be spelled differently even if they are used for the same smear as you say. My post stands.</p>
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		<title>By: Rule of Law</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2009/04/19/torture-documents-who-cares-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-116653</link>
		<dc:creator>Rule of Law</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 19:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*Word absent from the post above: constitution.

*Word absent from the post above: law.

I guess if you don&#039;t care about the law or the Constitution, torture is OK so long as you&#039;re not being tortured.  

Not that this condition is at all sure to last given those attitudes....


&lt;b&gt;*Editor&#039;s note... word absent from this comment: history.&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*Word absent from the post above: constitution.</p>
<p>*Word absent from the post above: law.</p>
<p>I guess if you don&#8217;t care about the law or the Constitution, torture is OK so long as you&#8217;re not being tortured.  </p>
<p>Not that this condition is at all sure to last given those attitudes&#8230;.</p>
<p><b>*Editor&#8217;s note&#8230; word absent from this comment: history.</b></p>
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		<title>By: bear1909</title>
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		<dc:creator>bear1909</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 19:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes. Bush the idiot masterminded 9/11.

the lefty liberal fascists cant have it both ways.  just how exactly was that caper planned with a Clinton infested CIA and a Pentagon infested with Clinton era military survivors of the greatest emasculation of our armed forces in history?

just tell me how that all managed to get done without anybody seeing anything?  simple stuff like laying in all the demolition charges needed to bring that building down--- since the jets werent enough to do it as suggested by the toothless Troofie movement.

what a load of crap.

the world is hurtling toward a cataclysm because Israel has now been back into a corner.

but it is the same old duality--- the chicken [edited] President Soetoro is making nice to Iran KNOWING it backs Israel into a corner and will push them to take out Syria (misdirection play all the way) and weaken Iran so President Pantywaist can keep his shorts clean.  It will only delay the inevitable:  hyperinflation around the world, China the 3000 pound gorilla cornering the worlds commodity markets with their flight out of the dollar into hard assets (steel, lumber, cement, uranium), and Russia&#039;s ham fisted attempt to bring Eastern Europe back into its grip.

All of this as a result of the &quot;truthful&quot; Soetoro.  All of this as a surprise to the Liberal Left who think that if we just played by the playground rules of rogue terrorist nations (i call it the playground fetish) the world would be without war (or peace as they like to think of it).

The world doesnt give a crap about 9/11.  That is the governments.  The people. Who the hell knows. 2/3rds of them are busy trying to figure out how to stem the tide of disease and feeding themselves tomorrow.

But to the Left the world is nothing but a touchy feely diversity workshop.  Survival isnt their concern.  After all a steady check arrives at their doorstep from a job, a bogus disability claim, a grant, or some scam to get a chunk of capitalist largesse for their own ends.

I take comfort in knowing all that wisdom is about to dry up as Lefties figure out Atlas is shrugging as we speak.  Retrenchment of capital is a bitch.  And nothing is going to happen until the real players get back in the game.

Poor lefty liberal fascists.  They believe their tofu comes from the grocery store.  

Bear1909 out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes. Bush the idiot masterminded 9/11.</p>
<p>the lefty liberal fascists cant have it both ways.  just how exactly was that caper planned with a Clinton infested CIA and a Pentagon infested with Clinton era military survivors of the greatest emasculation of our armed forces in history?</p>
<p>just tell me how that all managed to get done without anybody seeing anything?  simple stuff like laying in all the demolition charges needed to bring that building down&#8212; since the jets werent enough to do it as suggested by the toothless Troofie movement.</p>
<p>what a load of crap.</p>
<p>the world is hurtling toward a cataclysm because Israel has now been back into a corner.</p>
<p>but it is the same old duality&#8212; the chicken [edited] President Soetoro is making nice to Iran KNOWING it backs Israel into a corner and will push them to take out Syria (misdirection play all the way) and weaken Iran so President Pantywaist can keep his shorts clean.  It will only delay the inevitable:  hyperinflation around the world, China the 3000 pound gorilla cornering the worlds commodity markets with their flight out of the dollar into hard assets (steel, lumber, cement, uranium), and Russia&#8217;s ham fisted attempt to bring Eastern Europe back into its grip.</p>
<p>All of this as a result of the &#8220;truthful&#8221; Soetoro.  All of this as a surprise to the Liberal Left who think that if we just played by the playground rules of rogue terrorist nations (i call it the playground fetish) the world would be without war (or peace as they like to think of it).</p>
<p>The world doesnt give a crap about 9/11.  That is the governments.  The people. Who the hell knows. 2/3rds of them are busy trying to figure out how to stem the tide of disease and feeding themselves tomorrow.</p>
<p>But to the Left the world is nothing but a touchy feely diversity workshop.  Survival isnt their concern.  After all a steady check arrives at their doorstep from a job, a bogus disability claim, a grant, or some scam to get a chunk of capitalist largesse for their own ends.</p>
<p>I take comfort in knowing all that wisdom is about to dry up as Lefties figure out Atlas is shrugging as we speak.  Retrenchment of capital is a bitch.  And nothing is going to happen until the real players get back in the game.</p>
<p>Poor lefty liberal fascists.  They believe their tofu comes from the grocery store.  </p>
<p>Bear1909 out.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 18:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why Waterboard him 183 times? If this is useful why would so many times be needed and at some point KSM would realize he isn&#039;t going to die from it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why Waterboard him 183 times? If this is useful why would so many times be needed and at some point KSM would realize he isn&#8217;t going to die from it.</p>
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		<title>By: William Teach</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2009/04/19/torture-documents-who-cares-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-116643</link>
		<dc:creator>William Teach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 17:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude, it is a reference to &quot;Barking Moonbats.&quot; Welcome to the Interwebz.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude, it is a reference to &#8220;Barking Moonbats.&#8221; Welcome to the Interwebz.</p>
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