You said: “invading other nations” I’m assuming you mean Iraq?
Where did you get your information?

Actually, The Liberation of Iraq was just the continuation of The Persian Gulf War because U.S. and allied air forces had been in nearly constant conflict with Iraqi forces since Iraq’s aggression against Kuwait was repelled and Saddam never complied with the resolution to allow U.N. weapons inspectors to fulfill their mandate and a violation of its 1991 cease-fire agreement.

The United Nations had already given its support for the use of whatever means were necessary to enforce its resolutions, but the Secretary General had done nothing to enforce them. The Security Council had passed nearly 60 resolutions on Iraq and Kuwait since Iraq’s invasion of Kuwait in 1990. Resolution 678, passed on November 29, 1990, authorizes “member states co-operating with the Government of Kuwait to use all necessary means” to implement Security Council Resolution 660 and other resolutions calling for the end of Iraq’s occupation of Kuwait and the withdrawal of Iraqi forces from Kuwaiti territory and “restore international peace and security in the area.”

In the Persian Gulf War, U.S. led forces accomplished the first objective swiftly; the second, however, had never been achieved. U.S. and allied air forces had been in nearly constant conflict with Iraqi forces since Iraq’s aggression against Kuwait was repelled. Resolution 678 has not been rescinded or nullified by succeeding resolutions. Its authorization of the use of force against Iraq remained in effect. Iraq’s refusal to allow U.N. weapons inspectors to fulfill their mandate was a violation of its 1991 cease-fire agreement and a clear indication that peace had never been achieved.

President Bush began the process with his address to the United Nations General Assembly on September 12, 2002. The U.N. balked at taking action to address Saddam’s violation of its resolutions, the President still had full legal authority, both from the United Nations and from the United States Congress to take whatever actions may be necessary. Both bodies had already documented their support for the United States to take all necessary action to enforce existing U.N. Security Council resolutions. While a new resolution and a congressional vote might have added political momentum to the effort to eliminate the threat posed by Saddam Hussein, neither was legally necessary for the President to use military force.

You Said: They probably commit torture as well.
Your evidence for this torture is where?

Waterboarding may be brutal, it may be nasty, and it may even be uncalled for. But it’s not torture. It does not inflict physical pain or damage. It does not destroy the victim. Its sole purpose is to create a sense of terror by arousing deep instinctive reactions against drowning, instincts shared not only by almost all mammals, but almost all vertebrates who don’t happen to be fish. It is effective, it is quick, it leaves no scars and should revolt no one’s conscience.

The only person other than US pilot trainees we know to have been waterboarded is Khalid Sheik Muhhamed. Khalid broke within minutes (the practice involves wrapping the face in towels and then pouring on large quantities of water.) He was waterboarded for one reason alone: he was involved in the 9/11 attack, both preparation and execution, and authorities needed to know if any other such attacks were in store.

Panties on the terrorist heads? People do this all the time in San Francisco at gay parades, where they actually use whips on themselves and others, where’s the liberal outrage of abuse and torture?

The fact is that these terrorist are illegal combatants, we are not fighting recognized national forces with recognized institutions, armies, uniforms or even respects for the laws of war.
They don’t deserve any better treatment that those once afforded to pirates on the high seas; they opened hostilities on 9/11 against mostly civilian’s targets.
Since then, they had never made any concerned efforts to treat any civilians or military personnel that had the misfortune of being captured under the rules of Geneva. That in my opinion put them outside of any protection provided by the convention.

Your compassion for the terrorist is overwhelming! Yet, little outrage by you and the liberals for the 50 million babies aborted since roe vs. wade. Hmmm. you sure got your priorities in order, NOT!!!!!

I would think sucking the brains out of a baby’s head and throwing them in the trash would be more painful and torturous than loud music, panties on the head or waterboarding! Don’t you?

I also concur with everything Angry D posted!

HumboldtBlue You’re delusional leftist and should seek some psychiatric help before you hurt yourself or others. (ò¿ó)

Typical liberal PR spin coupled with a liberal (pun not intended) dose of absolute crap.

I love hearing you buffoons try to claim “Hundreds of thousands dead in Iraq.” Oddly, you never seem to be able to provide a substantive citation for that makee-uppy number you pulled out.

Did Mr. Bush censor widdle-old you? Did anyone with jackboots kick in your door and arrest you for being as stupid as you are loudmouthed? Hmmm. They DIDN’T? Wow. I wonder who he WAS censoring, then. Was it the media that gleefully reported every minor accident and tiny infraction as if it were a major scandal? Was it the Congress that willfully ignored 17 attempts to warn them of the sub-prime mortgage problem in 2008 ALONE (All from the Bush White House.)

Someone MUST be preventing you from posting your pig-ignorant vomit on websites, right? That’s why you’re all butt-hurt about censorship.

As for torture, you people crack me up. Did anyone under Bush’s orders at any time use thumbscrews, cane a prisoner’s feet, or cut the fingers from a four-year-old girl because her father wouldn’t talk? You might want to do some actual research sometime before you open your mouth and look like a total jackass again. All of those human rights violations were committed by Saddam Hussein.

You have a rather disjointed and unreal idea of what torture really is.

While you’re at the library I encourage you to look up the word “Holocaust” sometime. It might interest you to know that the Iranian president you want to smooch with denies that it ever took place, and has gone on record stating that if his country EVER develops a nuclear weapon his first act will be to lob it towards Israel.

But that doesn’t really matter to you, does it? No FACT in the world is going to puncture your smug self-righteousness and windily pompous rhetoric.

Grow.

Up.

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Hmm, sounds like the modern GOP to me. But as we all know, if George Bush had done any of those things he’d be called a brilliant and inspiring leader, bravely standing up to the direst threat this nation has ever faced.

Right?