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		<title>By: pete</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2009/03/09/connecticut-looking-to-regulate-the-catholic-church/comment-page-1/#comment-125121</link>
		<dc:creator>pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 01:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The atrocities by the RCC, rape of small children and the cover-ups from the vatican down --&gt; we need to shut down the RCC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The atrocities by the RCC, rape of small children and the cover-ups from the vatican down &#8211;&gt; we need to shut down the RCC.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Cohen</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2009/03/09/connecticut-looking-to-regulate-the-catholic-church/comment-page-1/#comment-114808</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 00:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is gooooood!!!!!
the state would not be seeking to ruffle the feathers of the Church if the Church did not seek to impose it&#039;s will on other americans who seek happiness in America...but Don&#039;t worry, if you are a Christian you should know that all power in heaven and in the earth is given unto Jesus; he is the head of all principality and power, and might and dominion...serve him only and no government in the earth shall rule over you,without his approval...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is gooooood!!!!!<br />
the state would not be seeking to ruffle the feathers of the Church if the Church did not seek to impose it&#8217;s will on other americans who seek happiness in America&#8230;but Don&#8217;t worry, if you are a Christian you should know that all power in heaven and in the earth is given unto Jesus; he is the head of all principality and power, and might and dominion&#8230;serve him only and no government in the earth shall rule over you,without his approval&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: l c</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2009/03/09/connecticut-looking-to-regulate-the-catholic-church/comment-page-1/#comment-114672</link>
		<dc:creator>l c</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 07:29:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ACLU is going against the constitution.  It, if it were out to defend the constitutional rights of all citizens (which it most likely claims to do, I think), it should support the church, not fight to run it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ACLU is going against the constitution.  It, if it were out to defend the constitutional rights of all citizens (which it most likely claims to do, I think), it should support the church, not fight to run it.</p>
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		<title>By: Stef</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2009/03/09/connecticut-looking-to-regulate-the-catholic-church/comment-page-1/#comment-114627</link>
		<dc:creator>Stef</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 03:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is all part of what is foretold in the bible. Jehovah&#039;s great day is fast approaching.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is all part of what is foretold in the bible. Jehovah&#8217;s great day is fast approaching.</p>
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		<title>By: SueG</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2009/03/09/connecticut-looking-to-regulate-the-catholic-church/comment-page-1/#comment-114626</link>
		<dc:creator>SueG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 03:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see that the bill  has been withdrawn.  Lots of outraged  citizens flooded phones and e-mail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see that the bill  has been withdrawn.  Lots of outraged  citizens flooded phones and e-mail.</p>
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		<title>By: katherine halobrudo</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2009/03/09/connecticut-looking-to-regulate-the-catholic-church/comment-page-1/#comment-114607</link>
		<dc:creator>katherine halobrudo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 23:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the premise that this is WRONG it is an absolute abomination...the Connecticut legislators that are championing this proposal would do well to recall why the pilgrims initially fled England for this country. Back the @#&amp;&amp;!! OFF!! This is what revolutions are made of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the premise that this is WRONG it is an absolute abomination&#8230;the Connecticut legislators that are championing this proposal would do well to recall why the pilgrims initially fled England for this country. Back the @#&amp;&amp;!! OFF!! This is what revolutions are made of.</p>
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		<title>By: laughter</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2009/03/09/connecticut-looking-to-regulate-the-catholic-church/comment-page-1/#comment-114591</link>
		<dc:creator>laughter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Catholic Church isn’t going anywhere.
The California Court question being asked by the Military ARE WE STILL A CONSTUTIONAL REPUBLIC? pulls Obama’s pants down, while the Pope shakes down his shoulders and NUNs whack his hands for nearing the collection plate.The new &quot;Religious experince&quot; for Soros and Obama is learning the Cardinal Rule….never touch the purse strings of the Pope and anger the Vatican.
Welcome President Biden to undo the penstrokes of Obamanomics bad check writing,  and return Confidence to America.
This Conneticut move, only means the Pope will put Capitalism back in the USA.

Do not forget Obama lawyers tried to keep ACLU from getting to the Bush papers, because if they did, it forces his own sealed records open. ACLU won that case...too funny...it was the dog chasing it&#039;s own tail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Catholic Church isn’t going anywhere.<br />
The California Court question being asked by the Military ARE WE STILL A CONSTUTIONAL REPUBLIC? pulls Obama’s pants down, while the Pope shakes down his shoulders and NUNs whack his hands for nearing the collection plate.The new &#8220;Religious experince&#8221; for Soros and Obama is learning the Cardinal Rule….never touch the purse strings of the Pope and anger the Vatican.<br />
Welcome President Biden to undo the penstrokes of Obamanomics bad check writing,  and return Confidence to America.<br />
This Conneticut move, only means the Pope will put Capitalism back in the USA.</p>
<p>Do not forget Obama lawyers tried to keep ACLU from getting to the Bush papers, because if they did, it forces his own sealed records open. ACLU won that case&#8230;too funny&#8230;it was the dog chasing it&#8217;s own tail.</p>
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		<title>By: laughter</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2009/03/09/connecticut-looking-to-regulate-the-catholic-church/comment-page-1/#comment-114590</link>
		<dc:creator>laughter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Cathiloc Church isn&#039;t going anywhere.
The california Court question being asked by the Military ARE WE STILL A CONSTUTIONAL REPUBLIC? pulls Obama&#039;s pants down, while the Pope shakes down his shoulders and NUNs whack his hands for nearing the collection plate.The new Religious experince for Soros and Obama is learing the Cardinal Rule....never touch the puse strings of the Pope and anger the Vatican.
Card</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Cathiloc Church isn&#8217;t going anywhere.<br />
The california Court question being asked by the Military ARE WE STILL A CONSTUTIONAL REPUBLIC? pulls Obama&#8217;s pants down, while the Pope shakes down his shoulders and NUNs whack his hands for nearing the collection plate.The new Religious experince for Soros and Obama is learing the Cardinal Rule&#8230;.never touch the puse strings of the Pope and anger the Vatican.<br />
Card</p>
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		<title>By: Jack b</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2009/03/09/connecticut-looking-to-regulate-the-catholic-church/comment-page-1/#comment-114587</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 16:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The world empire of false religion, embracing all religions whose teachings and practices do not conform to the true worship of Jehovah, the only true God. Following the Flood of Noah’s day, false religion had its beginning at Babel (later known as Babylon). (Gen. 10:8-10; 11:4-9) In time, Babylonish religious beliefs and practices spread to many lands. So Babylon the Great became a fitting name for false religion as a whole.


Rev. 18:4: “Get out of her, my people, if you do not want to share with her in her sins, and if you do not want to receive part of her plagues.”

Very soon the nations of the world are going to unit to turn on all false religion.

]Rev. 18:21: “A strong angel lifted up a stone like a great millstone and hurled it into the sea, saying: ‘Thus with a swift pitch will Babylon the great city be hurled down, and she will never be found again.’”

also, Modern-Day ‘Harlotry’
6 Through her meddling in politics, the great harlot has brought untold sorrow to mankind. Consider, for example, the facts behind Hitler’s rise to power in Germany—ugly facts that some would like to expunge from the history books. In May 1924 the Nazi Party held 32 seats in the German Reichstag. By May 1928 these had dwindled to 12 seats. However, the Great Depression engulfed the world in 1930; riding in its wake, the Nazis made a remarkable recovery, gaining 230 out of 608 seats in the German elections of July 1932. Soon after, former chancellor Franz von Papen, a Papal Knight, came to the Nazis’ aid. According to historians, von Papen envisioned a new Holy Roman Empire. His own short tenure as chancellor had been a failure, so now he hoped to gain power through the Nazis. By January 1933, he had mustered support for Hitler from the industrial barons, and through wily intrigues he ensured that Hitler became Germany’s chancellor on January 30, 1933. He himself was made vice-chancellor and was used by Hitler to win the support of Catholic sections of Germany. Within two months of gaining power, Hitler dissolved parliament, dispatched thousands of opposition leaders to concentration camps, and began an open campaign of oppressing the Jews.
7 On July 20, 1933, the Vatican’s interest in the rising power of Nazism was displayed when Cardinal Pacelli (who later became Pope Pius XII) signed a concordat in Rome between the Vatican and Nazi Germany. Von Papen signed the document as Hitler’s representative, and Pacelli there conferred on von Papen the high papal decoration of the Grand Cross of the Order of Pius. In his book Satan in Top Hat, Tibor Koeves writes of this, stating: “The Concordat was a great victory for Hitler. It gave him the first moral support he had received from the outer world, and this from the most exalted source.” The concordat required the Vatican to withdraw its support from Germany’s Catholic Center Party, thus sanctioning Hitler’s one-party “total state.” Further, its article 14 stated: “The appointments for archbishops, bishops, and the like will be issued only after the governor, installed by the Reich, has duly ascertained that no doubts exist with respect to general political considerations.” By the end of 1933 (proclaimed a “Holy Year” by Pope Pius XI), Vatican support had become a major factor in Hitler’s push for world domination.
8 Though a handful of priests and nuns protested Hitler’s atrocities—and suffered for it—the Vatican as well as the Catholic Church and its army of clergy gave either active or tacit support to the Nazi tyranny, which they regarded as a bulwark against the advance of world Communism. Sitting pretty in the Vatican, Pope Pius XII let the Holocaust on the Jews and the cruel persecutions of Jehovah’s Witnesses and others proceed uncriticized. It is ironical that Pope John Paul II, on visiting Germany in May 1987, should glorify the anti-Nazi stand of one sincere priest. What were the other thousands of the German clergy doing during Hitler’s reign of terror? A pastoral letter issued by the German Catholic bishops in September 1939 at the outbreak of World War II provides enlightenment on this point. It reads in part: “In this decisive hour we admonish our Catholic soldiers to do their duty in obedience to the Fuehrer and to be ready to sacrifice their whole individuality. We appeal to the Faithful to join in ardent prayers that Divine Providence may lead this war to blessed success.”
9 Such Catholic diplomacy illustrates the kind of harlotry that religion has engaged in over the past 4,000 years in wooing the political State in order to gain power and advantage. Such religio-political relationships have fostered warfare, persecutions, and human misery on a vast scale. How happy mankind can be that Jehovah’s judgment upon the great harlot is at hand. May it soon be executed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The world empire of false religion, embracing all religions whose teachings and practices do not conform to the true worship of Jehovah, the only true God. Following the Flood of Noah’s day, false religion had its beginning at Babel (later known as Babylon). (Gen. 10:8-10; 11:4-9) In time, Babylonish religious beliefs and practices spread to many lands. So Babylon the Great became a fitting name for false religion as a whole.</p>
<p>Rev. 18:4: “Get out of her, my people, if you do not want to share with her in her sins, and if you do not want to receive part of her plagues.”</p>
<p>Very soon the nations of the world are going to unit to turn on all false religion.</p>
<p>]Rev. 18:21: “A strong angel lifted up a stone like a great millstone and hurled it into the sea, saying: ‘Thus with a swift pitch will Babylon the great city be hurled down, and she will never be found again.’”</p>
<p>also, Modern-Day ‘Harlotry’<br />
6 Through her meddling in politics, the great harlot has brought untold sorrow to mankind. Consider, for example, the facts behind Hitler’s rise to power in Germany—ugly facts that some would like to expunge from the history books. In May 1924 the Nazi Party held 32 seats in the German Reichstag. By May 1928 these had dwindled to 12 seats. However, the Great Depression engulfed the world in 1930; riding in its wake, the Nazis made a remarkable recovery, gaining 230 out of 608 seats in the German elections of July 1932. Soon after, former chancellor Franz von Papen, a Papal Knight, came to the Nazis’ aid. According to historians, von Papen envisioned a new Holy Roman Empire. His own short tenure as chancellor had been a failure, so now he hoped to gain power through the Nazis. By January 1933, he had mustered support for Hitler from the industrial barons, and through wily intrigues he ensured that Hitler became Germany’s chancellor on January 30, 1933. He himself was made vice-chancellor and was used by Hitler to win the support of Catholic sections of Germany. Within two months of gaining power, Hitler dissolved parliament, dispatched thousands of opposition leaders to concentration camps, and began an open campaign of oppressing the Jews.<br />
7 On July 20, 1933, the Vatican’s interest in the rising power of Nazism was displayed when Cardinal Pacelli (who later became Pope Pius XII) signed a concordat in Rome between the Vatican and Nazi Germany. Von Papen signed the document as Hitler’s representative, and Pacelli there conferred on von Papen the high papal decoration of the Grand Cross of the Order of Pius. In his book Satan in Top Hat, Tibor Koeves writes of this, stating: “The Concordat was a great victory for Hitler. It gave him the first moral support he had received from the outer world, and this from the most exalted source.” The concordat required the Vatican to withdraw its support from Germany’s Catholic Center Party, thus sanctioning Hitler’s one-party “total state.” Further, its article 14 stated: “The appointments for archbishops, bishops, and the like will be issued only after the governor, installed by the Reich, has duly ascertained that no doubts exist with respect to general political considerations.” By the end of 1933 (proclaimed a “Holy Year” by Pope Pius XI), Vatican support had become a major factor in Hitler’s push for world domination.<br />
8 Though a handful of priests and nuns protested Hitler’s atrocities—and suffered for it—the Vatican as well as the Catholic Church and its army of clergy gave either active or tacit support to the Nazi tyranny, which they regarded as a bulwark against the advance of world Communism. Sitting pretty in the Vatican, Pope Pius XII let the Holocaust on the Jews and the cruel persecutions of Jehovah’s Witnesses and others proceed uncriticized. It is ironical that Pope John Paul II, on visiting Germany in May 1987, should glorify the anti-Nazi stand of one sincere priest. What were the other thousands of the German clergy doing during Hitler’s reign of terror? A pastoral letter issued by the German Catholic bishops in September 1939 at the outbreak of World War II provides enlightenment on this point. It reads in part: “In this decisive hour we admonish our Catholic soldiers to do their duty in obedience to the Fuehrer and to be ready to sacrifice their whole individuality. We appeal to the Faithful to join in ardent prayers that Divine Providence may lead this war to blessed success.”<br />
9 Such Catholic diplomacy illustrates the kind of harlotry that religion has engaged in over the past 4,000 years in wooing the political State in order to gain power and advantage. Such religio-political relationships have fostered warfare, persecutions, and human misery on a vast scale. How happy mankind can be that Jehovah’s judgment upon the great harlot is at hand. May it soon be executed!</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 15:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not a resident of the state.  I do not know the players invovled, so there may be less than honorable motives.  However, corp. law in a state is designed to make it possible for an organization to operate by creating contracts, bank and ivestment accounts, and protecting the assests of the members from legal or financial claims.  

If an organization (secular or religious) wants those services and protections from the state, they must be willing to meet the state&#039;s requirements.  

This particular bill doesn&#039;t appear to pass the equal protection issues.  If they created the board with the pastor as president (voting only in ties), it would be the same structure that governs 90% of Protestant congregations.  

But, churches and religious organizations cannot have it both ways... either they want to operate as a state approved corperation with its protections, or they do not.  They can operate as an unincorperated organization and leave the structures, officers, and members without the state&#039;s protection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not a resident of the state.  I do not know the players invovled, so there may be less than honorable motives.  However, corp. law in a state is designed to make it possible for an organization to operate by creating contracts, bank and ivestment accounts, and protecting the assests of the members from legal or financial claims.  </p>
<p>If an organization (secular or religious) wants those services and protections from the state, they must be willing to meet the state&#8217;s requirements.  </p>
<p>This particular bill doesn&#8217;t appear to pass the equal protection issues.  If they created the board with the pastor as president (voting only in ties), it would be the same structure that governs 90% of Protestant congregations.  </p>
<p>But, churches and religious organizations cannot have it both ways&#8230; either they want to operate as a state approved corperation with its protections, or they do not.  They can operate as an unincorperated organization and leave the structures, officers, and members without the state&#8217;s protection.</p>
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