Comments on: US Official Says G’itmo Vacationer Joined A Fraternity

By: mark

mark — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:44:08 +0000

Oh, and I’m sure all the frat houses employ “Forty-eight of 54 consecutive days of 18-to-20-hour interrogations”

Let me do these things to you, and I bet I could get you to whatever I wanted to hear.

By: Upturned Earth » Blog Archive » Pledge Gitmo!

Upturned Earth » Blog Archive » Pledge Gitmo! — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 18:49:18 +0000

[...] hijacker Mohammed al-Qatani “met the legal definition of torture”, the morons at Stop the ACLU write: Sounds like what one often goes through when joining a fraternity or the rugby team at college. [...]

By: DF

DF — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 18:24:22 +0000

I personally do not want the people who work for the U.S. government and who’ve kept this country free of attacks since 9/11 from having to sit in courtrooms for the next decade listening to the second-guessers. I don’t care about charging any of those taken off the battlefield.
When the Supremes stretched the fabric of the Construction to cover Gitmo, Bush should have just opened the gates and let ‘em all go. Raul will then have to round them all up, and put them in those lovely Cuban prisons. Sure they will get sold back to the Saudis or whatever. But it will create some chaos and take time.

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Uh-Oh: U.S. Official says Gitmo detainee was tortured | Political Byline — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 18:10:47 +0000

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By: the elector of saxony

the elector of saxony — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 17:20:51 +0000

“Your children will look back on your reactions and wonder why you were so willing to throw away the soul of a nation to piddle your pants when a loud noise sounds. ”

3000 Americans were killed in their offices. It wasn’t a loud sound, it was a Pearl Harbor of non-combatants. Remind me, did Bill Clinton do anything to anyone after the first WTC bombing (which did kill Americans, btw) Nope. No Gitmo. No reaction. No spine. When the same terrorists killed 14 sailors on the USS Cole, did Clinton do anything meaningful? Did he “torture” anyone? No, I think at the time our armed forces were in Bosnia….LIBERATING MUSLIMS YOU MORON! What did we get in return for the restraint in the face of murder? What did we get in return for our help in stopping the genocide in Bosnia you absolute freaking imbecilic hippie? That’s right, jacka**! 9-11. Guess what’s next, you dope smoking, hacky-sacking-liberal arts major? A nuclear attack on US soil. That’s right. It’s coming. And it will come because Barry, the GQ Commissar will close GITMO, let his people go, and will declare the GWOT over. He will also probably declare that the United States lost the War on Terror, or revise history such that no terror attack ever occurred on 9-11 or any other time. Just responses to US and Jew aggression in his mind (and yours, right?)

The only thing I hope for is that after it happens, we round all of you up and give you two choices, the bullet or the boat. I will be first in line with my trigger finger warmed up and ready for you.

By: Don

Don — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 17:12:32 +0000

If you don’t like the way this country goes about trying to glean information from terrorists or “suspected” terrorists so you can can live the free life, perhaps you should consider another country. Turning the other cheek does not work against this type of enemy, who loathes the very life we have come to enjoy, and the freedom we have to vent on these types of forums. I dare say,that my kids would want to know why we didn’t do anything within our power to learn what we can when we had the chance. Don’t forget all those second guessers that came out of the woodwork after 9/11, “what did we know, when did we know it”. How do you think we find some of this stuff out? How do you think hostages are treated by this enemy? Oh wait, they’re put on a stage and beheaded, and then the video is released for the world to see, hoping it will shock us into submission. Torturing is’nt right, just necessary. Now go tell your kids the score of the soccer game they just played and who won.

By: Ed

Ed — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:55:28 +0000

I’m pretty sure the torture part was the beatings that left him hospitalized and the water boarding, both unequivocally torture. The Holiday Inn Express analogy is comical. I would even let you be the judge let some do to you what was done to him and let us know if you don’t think it was torture.

By: Franko

Franko — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:41:51 +0000

So to the right wingnuts, the only two choices you offer are either buying the SUSPECT – that’s right bobo, SUSPECT ONLY – a birthday cake or abandoning our soul as a nation of laws? Your imagination and pride can only leave you with two (2) choices? Maybe if you folks read a book – or at least found somebody to read for you – you could offer some additional wisdom. Please stop being scared already. Your children are watching you advocate torturing suspects. Your children will look back on your reactions and wonder why you were so willing to throw away the soul of a nation to piddle your pants when a loud noise sounds. Jeez people, find your backbone.

By: DF

DF — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:14:05 +0000

Just as the late Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan spoke of “defining deviancy down, ”judges like this one are defining torture down. Doing anything short of checking a terrorist into a Holiday Inn Express with buffet breakfast service will in the future be deemed as torture. The ACLU has won, probably with ample Saudi money going to the defense of terrorists.
This means taking prisoners will no longer have any intelligence value. And we all know what that means.

By: timb

timb — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 15:57:34 +0000

61 of 500 released prisoners…after we kidnapped them and tortured them for no reason (the reason they were released, tool, was because the Pentagon deemed them “not guilty”) and you think that’s a high number? After what we did these people, how less than 15% agreed to pick up arms is amazing. Brutalize someone and then pat ‘em on the back and tell them all’s well, no hard feelings, chap and you expect them to NOT want revenge?

Oh, a once again revealing the mindlessness of the StACLU posters we have a lawyer telling us the man’s treatment met the definition of torture, which is against US national and international law and AGAIN a conservative is there to make moral equivalence of law-breaking. You and your endless torture cheer-leading are exactly why the ACLU is needed.

Comparing convicted felons and SEAL trainees (who can opt out and quit the training….an option I dare say David Hicks wasn’t offered) to the treatment of people convicted of nothing….Jesus if you want to torture them, could you please find any of them guilty of anything.