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		<title>By: moshe</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2009/01/02/the-angst-of-supporting-israel/comment-page-1/#comment-126809</link>
		<dc:creator>moshe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your opening premise revealed a bias. Arab states in 67 openly declared their intention to through the Jews into the Sea. The Arab states who ruled Samaria/Jordan and Gaza/Egypt suffered a &quot;disasterous&quot; defeat. No one, you can not find a single source - cause there aint one - which accused Jordan and Egypt of occupying &quot;palestinian&quot; lands. The rest of your argument represents a house of cards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your opening premise revealed a bias. Arab states in 67 openly declared their intention to through the Jews into the Sea. The Arab states who ruled Samaria/Jordan and Gaza/Egypt suffered a &#8220;disasterous&#8221; defeat. No one, you can not find a single source &#8211; cause there aint one &#8211; which accused Jordan and Egypt of occupying &#8220;palestinian&#8221; lands. The rest of your argument represents a house of cards.</p>
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		<title>By: solmonthewise</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2009/01/02/the-angst-of-supporting-israel/comment-page-1/#comment-111752</link>
		<dc:creator>solmonthewise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 16:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mary m writes:

&quot;HOW DARE YOU CALL ISRAEL EVIL. I RESENT THAT STATEMENT AS A JEW AND A PEACE LOVING HUMAN BEING. ISRAEL HAS THE RIGHT TO RID ITSELF OF TERRORISTS.&quot;

And who are you to dictate what people want to say? You could resent statements as you like but you definitely are  not a peace loving human being; a peace loving human being does not have your demeanor or the fouled mouth you have.

We all saw the terrorists Israel has been engaged in killing; babies, kids, mothers, fathers, and old men blown to pieces; what a shame! The whole world watched in horror as  Israel forced some 110 people, it had hijacked, into a house which later was targeted with air bombardment resulting in the wholesale death of some 45 people of several families and the wounding of the rest! The UN has also confirmed the intentional shelling of a UN run school, where people gathered to escape the inhumane bombardment of their houses, and where some 35 people died instantly of mortar shelling with many others wounded.

This is real Israel, and it is evil no matter how many times Mary m babbles the overused word of &quot;antisemitic&quot; with which they threaten anyone who speaks the truth.

She will now sit, watch, and agonize with Maggie over the inevitable defeat of their darling Israel; the supreme of evilness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary m writes:</p>
<p>&#8220;HOW DARE YOU CALL ISRAEL EVIL. I RESENT THAT STATEMENT AS A JEW AND A PEACE LOVING HUMAN BEING. ISRAEL HAS THE RIGHT TO RID ITSELF OF TERRORISTS.&#8221;</p>
<p>And who are you to dictate what people want to say? You could resent statements as you like but you definitely are  not a peace loving human being; a peace loving human being does not have your demeanor or the fouled mouth you have.</p>
<p>We all saw the terrorists Israel has been engaged in killing; babies, kids, mothers, fathers, and old men blown to pieces; what a shame! The whole world watched in horror as  Israel forced some 110 people, it had hijacked, into a house which later was targeted with air bombardment resulting in the wholesale death of some 45 people of several families and the wounding of the rest! The UN has also confirmed the intentional shelling of a UN run school, where people gathered to escape the inhumane bombardment of their houses, and where some 35 people died instantly of mortar shelling with many others wounded.</p>
<p>This is real Israel, and it is evil no matter how many times Mary m babbles the overused word of &#8220;antisemitic&#8221; with which they threaten anyone who speaks the truth.</p>
<p>She will now sit, watch, and agonize with Maggie over the inevitable defeat of their darling Israel; the supreme of evilness.</p>
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		<title>By: solmonthewise</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2009/01/02/the-angst-of-supporting-israel/comment-page-1/#comment-111736</link>
		<dc:creator>solmonthewise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 08:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mary m writes:

&quot;ISRAEL was given to the Jewish people after ww2 by the WORLD..in retribution of the Holocaust. ISRAEL has the god given right to defend it’s country.&quot;

How funny; so the imperial powers (The league of Nations) are considered the &quot;World&quot; in the mind of Mary m as in the above statement. Well, the real world is the one that had voted to make equal Zionism and Nazism. The real world is the one we see today demonstrating against Israel mayhem in Gaza (to no use or military advantage) and calling Israel the names it deserves; evil being the common name.

Mary m writes like an elementary student who has just begun education, claiming that the world gave Palestine to the Jews as a &quot;retribution&quot; to the Holocaust. She needs to consult with her Zionist trainers so she could learn about the Balfour Declaration 1917, which Imperial Britain issued to the Jewish Banker Rothschild, promising him Palestine as a homeland for the Jews; some 30 years before the conclusion of WWII.

If it is not a lack of knowledge or education, This would be typical of Zionists who learned well from the Nazi Goebbels that if one lies, repeat the lies, and then insist that it is the truth, then the gullible masses&#039; ensuing gossip will make it the apparent truth. 

The world gave the Jews nothing, rather the victorious imperial powers colluded to deprive the Arabs from a united kingdom as promised for their role in WWI and instead gave away Palestine to the Zionists so they could help prevent by force the recreation of an Islamic central government as the Ottomans were before their defeat in 1917. Israel is simply an advanced military base acting on behalf of Western Powers and fulfilling the very reason for which it was created. 

Deluded are those who think that Western leaders support Israel because of any moral stands; Israel is the West&#039;s illegitimate child and their support will be forthcoming until the West realizes (as they do now) how expensive and vicious a young teen that child has become. It is very clear now that Western support is not as sure as it had been and the Zionist Jews must recognize that they had picked the wrong people for enemies and the wrong ideology to challenge; they simply have no chance and we are watching today the violent convulsions of a dying system akin to that the world had seen in the form of atrocities, as the Nazis started dying in 1943.

One week so far and the arrogant IDF is unable to progress its ground offensive or stop the missiles retaliating for the IDF and Israeli Air force atrocities, and against whom? a group of irregulars that dad been circled and besieged for two years. What a performance? Western leaders must be now scratching their heads and wondering how useful this loud dog of theirs has been; despite of all the loud barking and biting.

IDF is now running out of ammunition and the Pentagon is now looking for contractors to transport the replenishment to Israel; let us just watch if it would do any good; it never did in July of 2006.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary m writes:</p>
<p>&#8220;ISRAEL was given to the Jewish people after ww2 by the WORLD..in retribution of the Holocaust. ISRAEL has the god given right to defend it’s country.&#8221;</p>
<p>How funny; so the imperial powers (The league of Nations) are considered the &#8220;World&#8221; in the mind of Mary m as in the above statement. Well, the real world is the one that had voted to make equal Zionism and Nazism. The real world is the one we see today demonstrating against Israel mayhem in Gaza (to no use or military advantage) and calling Israel the names it deserves; evil being the common name.</p>
<p>Mary m writes like an elementary student who has just begun education, claiming that the world gave Palestine to the Jews as a &#8220;retribution&#8221; to the Holocaust. She needs to consult with her Zionist trainers so she could learn about the Balfour Declaration 1917, which Imperial Britain issued to the Jewish Banker Rothschild, promising him Palestine as a homeland for the Jews; some 30 years before the conclusion of WWII.</p>
<p>If it is not a lack of knowledge or education, This would be typical of Zionists who learned well from the Nazi Goebbels that if one lies, repeat the lies, and then insist that it is the truth, then the gullible masses&#8217; ensuing gossip will make it the apparent truth. </p>
<p>The world gave the Jews nothing, rather the victorious imperial powers colluded to deprive the Arabs from a united kingdom as promised for their role in WWI and instead gave away Palestine to the Zionists so they could help prevent by force the recreation of an Islamic central government as the Ottomans were before their defeat in 1917. Israel is simply an advanced military base acting on behalf of Western Powers and fulfilling the very reason for which it was created. </p>
<p>Deluded are those who think that Western leaders support Israel because of any moral stands; Israel is the West&#8217;s illegitimate child and their support will be forthcoming until the West realizes (as they do now) how expensive and vicious a young teen that child has become. It is very clear now that Western support is not as sure as it had been and the Zionist Jews must recognize that they had picked the wrong people for enemies and the wrong ideology to challenge; they simply have no chance and we are watching today the violent convulsions of a dying system akin to that the world had seen in the form of atrocities, as the Nazis started dying in 1943.</p>
<p>One week so far and the arrogant IDF is unable to progress its ground offensive or stop the missiles retaliating for the IDF and Israeli Air force atrocities, and against whom? a group of irregulars that dad been circled and besieged for two years. What a performance? Western leaders must be now scratching their heads and wondering how useful this loud dog of theirs has been; despite of all the loud barking and biting.</p>
<p>IDF is now running out of ammunition and the Pentagon is now looking for contractors to transport the replenishment to Israel; let us just watch if it would do any good; it never did in July of 2006.</p>
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		<title>By: solmonthewise</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2009/01/02/the-angst-of-supporting-israel/comment-page-1/#comment-111707</link>
		<dc:creator>solmonthewise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 18:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mary m:

You are simply silly; you have been attacking man4truth who is on your side! You are so deluded, fouled mouth and have nothing important to say except parroting words that world has tired of.

Israel is very evil and the world has started to recognize this; I am sure the demonstrations throughout the world makes you loose much sleep. Your darling Israel is on its way down and all of your anger will not save it. Just sit and watch how Hamas will defeat it as Hebollah did two years ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary m:</p>
<p>You are simply silly; you have been attacking man4truth who is on your side! You are so deluded, fouled mouth and have nothing important to say except parroting words that world has tired of.</p>
<p>Israel is very evil and the world has started to recognize this; I am sure the demonstrations throughout the world makes you loose much sleep. Your darling Israel is on its way down and all of your anger will not save it. Just sit and watch how Hamas will defeat it as Hebollah did two years ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary m</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2009/01/02/the-angst-of-supporting-israel/comment-page-1/#comment-111688</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 07:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>soloman the wise and man4turth should be flown to gaza and made to stay there during the war...go face to face with HAMAS who&#039;s plans is to kill all the jews like hitler tried to do. DO YOU AGREE WITH HITLER YOU PIECES OF HUMAN IGNORANT GARBAGE? DO YOU THINK WHAT HE DID TO 6,000,000 PEOPLE WAS JUST. YOU ANTISEMETIC EVIL HUMAN BEINGS. GO TO HELL....DOGS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>soloman the wise and man4turth should be flown to gaza and made to stay there during the war&#8230;go face to face with HAMAS who&#8217;s plans is to kill all the jews like hitler tried to do. DO YOU AGREE WITH HITLER YOU PIECES OF HUMAN IGNORANT GARBAGE? DO YOU THINK WHAT HE DID TO 6,000,000 PEOPLE WAS JUST. YOU ANTISEMETIC EVIL HUMAN BEINGS. GO TO HELL&#8230;.DOGS</p>
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		<title>By: Mary m</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2009/01/02/the-angst-of-supporting-israel/comment-page-1/#comment-111687</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 07:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>man 4 truth is man 4 lies. is man for antisemetism...is man for hatred...should leave america and see what it&#039;slike to be blown up in the gaza strip...go to palestine and defend the eenmy. YOU ARE EVIL YOU ARE EVIL YOU ARE EVIL. GO TO HELL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>man 4 truth is man 4 lies. is man for antisemetism&#8230;is man for hatred&#8230;should leave america and see what it&#8217;slike to be blown up in the gaza strip&#8230;go to palestine and defend the eenmy. YOU ARE EVIL YOU ARE EVIL YOU ARE EVIL. GO TO HELL</p>
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		<title>By: Mary m</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2009/01/02/the-angst-of-supporting-israel/comment-page-1/#comment-111686</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 06:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>america shoudl support israel AT ALL COSTS. YOU ARE A MORON TO THINK OTHERWISE. YOU ANTISEMETIC PEACE OF HUMAN GARBAGE. GO TO HELL MAN 4 TRUTH..YOU NAZI...SKINHEAD...YOU ARE EVIL. ...NOT ISRAEL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>america shoudl support israel AT ALL COSTS. YOU ARE A MORON TO THINK OTHERWISE. YOU ANTISEMETIC PEACE OF HUMAN GARBAGE. GO TO HELL MAN 4 TRUTH..YOU NAZI&#8230;SKINHEAD&#8230;YOU ARE EVIL. &#8230;NOT ISRAEL</p>
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		<title>By: Mary m</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2009/01/02/the-angst-of-supporting-israel/comment-page-1/#comment-111685</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 06:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>man4 truth HOW DARE YOU CALL ISRAEL EVIL. I RESENT THAT STATEMENT AS A JEW AND A PEACE LOVING HUMAN BEING. ISRAEL HAS THE RIGHT TO RID ITSELF OF TERRORISTS. ISRAEL IS NOT EVIL. ISRAEL IS THE CENTER OF GOD TO ALLPEOPLE..HOW DARE YOU NOT forgin the Jewish people a ;home land. you are a sick individual. YOU ARE EVIL. GO TO HELL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>man4 truth HOW DARE YOU CALL ISRAEL EVIL. I RESENT THAT STATEMENT AS A JEW AND A PEACE LOVING HUMAN BEING. ISRAEL HAS THE RIGHT TO RID ITSELF OF TERRORISTS. ISRAEL IS NOT EVIL. ISRAEL IS THE CENTER OF GOD TO ALLPEOPLE..HOW DARE YOU NOT forgin the Jewish people a ;home land. you are a sick individual. YOU ARE EVIL. GO TO HELL</p>
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		<title>By: Mary m</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2009/01/02/the-angst-of-supporting-israel/comment-page-1/#comment-111684</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 06:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ISRAEL was given to the Jewish people after ww2 by the WORLD..in retribution of the Holocaust. ISRAEL has the god given right to defend it&#039;s country.

HAMAS has been bombing southern Israel for the past 8 months. enough is enough. they should blow up the arab states who bother them. They areNOT FIGHTING WITH THE PALESTINIANS..BUT WITH THE TERRORISTS THAT SURROUND THEM..HAMAS AND THE OTHER GROUPS. READ THE PAPER..LISTEN TO THE NEWS. THE UN has some nerve to tell them cease fire. GO ISRAEL..GO..FIGHT FOR WHAT&#039;S YOURS. ANYONE WHO BOMBS ANOTHER COUNTRY DESERVES RETALIATION. HAMAS DESERVES TO DIE.  ISRAEL IS PROTECTING THE WORLD FROM TERRORISM.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ISRAEL was given to the Jewish people after ww2 by the WORLD..in retribution of the Holocaust. ISRAEL has the god given right to defend it&#8217;s country.</p>
<p>HAMAS has been bombing southern Israel for the past 8 months. enough is enough. they should blow up the arab states who bother them. They areNOT FIGHTING WITH THE PALESTINIANS..BUT WITH THE TERRORISTS THAT SURROUND THEM..HAMAS AND THE OTHER GROUPS. READ THE PAPER..LISTEN TO THE NEWS. THE UN has some nerve to tell them cease fire. GO ISRAEL..GO..FIGHT FOR WHAT&#8217;S YOURS. ANYONE WHO BOMBS ANOTHER COUNTRY DESERVES RETALIATION. HAMAS DESERVES TO DIE.  ISRAEL IS PROTECTING THE WORLD FROM TERRORISM.</p>
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		<title>By: solmonthewise</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2009/01/02/the-angst-of-supporting-israel/comment-page-1/#comment-111578</link>
		<dc:creator>solmonthewise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 11:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man4Truth:

You cannot stand what I write because you have no response. And you have no response because either  your knowledge is limited or your training as a Zionist mouthpiece incomplete.

However, it is interesting that you are evoking religion here and claiming that Americans should support Israel because the Jews are God&#039;s chosen! What about those Americans (The great great majority) who do not believe that the Jews are God&#039;s chosen? Do you suggest we also subject them to a similar carnage as the one taking place in Gaza now? Is it OK not to believe that the Jews are not chosen or anything?

Other readers of this site can now see very clearly that those who cunningly claim to be secular defending democracy, are in actuality basing their political stands on religious ideas that the Jews are chosen or any other like fanatic babbling.

As you pray Man4Truth, there are billion and more Muslims, Christians and other (real) Jews also praying but for the opposite; the destruction of that racist and evil idea called Israel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man4Truth:</p>
<p>You cannot stand what I write because you have no response. And you have no response because either  your knowledge is limited or your training as a Zionist mouthpiece incomplete.</p>
<p>However, it is interesting that you are evoking religion here and claiming that Americans should support Israel because the Jews are God&#8217;s chosen! What about those Americans (The great great majority) who do not believe that the Jews are God&#8217;s chosen? Do you suggest we also subject them to a similar carnage as the one taking place in Gaza now? Is it OK not to believe that the Jews are not chosen or anything?</p>
<p>Other readers of this site can now see very clearly that those who cunningly claim to be secular defending democracy, are in actuality basing their political stands on religious ideas that the Jews are chosen or any other like fanatic babbling.</p>
<p>As you pray Man4Truth, there are billion and more Muslims, Christians and other (real) Jews also praying but for the opposite; the destruction of that racist and evil idea called Israel.</p>
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