Israelis play checkers in a bomb shelter in the southern city of Ashkelon December 31, 2008. Hamas rockets hit the major Israeli city of Beersheba on Wednesday and Israel described as unrealistic a French proposal for a 48-hour truce that would allow more humanitarian aid into the Gaza Strip. from Reuters Pictures by REUTERS.
Do you support Israel’s right to exist? Assuming that your answer is probably “yes,” how do you feel about Israel’s “occupation” of the Gaza Strip? Perhaps your answer is “everything would be much easier if Israel were not an “occupier,” but still…you support Israel’s right to exist.
Are you a bit queasy about Israel’s “disproportionate response” to Palestinian aggressions; aggressions which include years of firing thousands of rockets and mortars into Israeli border towns? You probably acknowledge that Hamas should not be digging tunnels under the border into Israel…kidnapping Israeli soldiers, secreting arms through those tunnels from Egypt and Iran… to use on Israel, but still…Israel has a fearsome military, and after all, Gaza is a terribly poor area, filled to bursting with refugees existing for years in loathsome refugee camps – and don’t forget that Gaza is historically Palestinian – you might say. You support Israel’s right to exist, but still…it would be so much easier if the poor and oppressed of Palestine were not the victims of Israeli military.
Do you tend to ignore the fact that during any one of the many cease fires between Palestine and Israel, Palestine continues to fire into Israel? Have you fallen into the trap of thinking it must be okay because much of the world has no outrage about continued Palestinian shelling during cease fire periods?
Are you conflicted about Israel abiding on Palestinian soil?
Everything in the Middle East tends to be complicated, but some things can be understood by the Western mind. Here are a few facts that should ease your mind about “Israel the occupier:”
The original Mandate for Palestine, agreed to unanimously by the League of Nations in 1920, designated 124,466 sq. km. for the Jewish National Homeland, to be known as Israel. Here’s the map of that area:
Two years later, that 120,466 sq. km. had been reduced to 28,166 sq. km., as requested by the British trustees and approved by the League of Nation. The remaining 77% of the land originally proposed for the Jewish homeland was to become the Arab state of Jordan.
The creation of an Arab state in eastern Palestine (today Jordan) on 77 percent of the landmass of the original Mandate intended for a Jewish National Home in no way changed the status of Jews west of the Jordan River, nor did it inhibit their right to settle anywhere in western Palestine, the area between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea.
These documents are the last legally binding documents regarding the status of what is commonly called “the West Bank and Gaza.”
The Jewish homeland was to consist of all the land west of the Jordan River, stretching to the Mediterranean Sea – and including the West Bank and the Gaza Strip.
The the Arabs would not have it. The League of Nations dissolved into the United Nations and the problem was handed over to the U.N., including the trusteeship of the British mandate to make a Jewish state a reality. The Mandate stood.
U.N. Resolution 181, known also as the U.N. 1947 Partition Resolution, was passed by the U.N. General Assembly, and implemented but never accepted by the Arabs. The Iraq spokesman took to the podium and put on record “Iraq does not recognize the validity of this decision.” From Syria: “My country will never recognize such a decision [Partition]. It will never agree to be responsible for it.” From Yemen: “…the Government of Yemen does not consider itself bound by such a decision,…”
The Partition Plan was met not only by verbal rejection on the Arab side but also by concrete, bellicose steps to block its implementation and destroy the Jewish polity by force of arms, a goal the Arabs publicly declared even before Resolution 181 was brought to a vote.
Arabs not only rejected the compromise and took action to prevent establishment of a Jewish state but also blocked establishment of an Arab state under the partition plan not just before the Israel War of Independence, but also after the war when they themselves controlled the West Bank (1948-1967), rendering the recommendation ‘a still birth.’
The UN itself recognized that 181 had not been accepted by the Arab side, rendering it a dead issue: …
The U.N. partition began. More land was taken from the Jewish homeland.
The partition plan took on a checkerboard appearance. This was largely because Jewish towns and villages were spread throughout Palestine. This did not complicate the plan as much as the fact that the high living standards in Jewish cities and towns had attracted large Arab populations. This demographic factor insured that any partition would result in a Jewish state that included a substantial Arab population. Recognizing the need to allow for additional Jewish settlement, the majority proposal allotted the Jews land in the northern part of the country, Galilee, and the large, arid Negev desert in the south. The remainder was to form the Arab state.
These boundaries were based solely on demographics. The borders of the Jewish State were arranged with no consideration of security; hence, the new state’s frontiers were virtually indefensible. Overall, the Jewish State was to be comprised of roughly 5,500 square miles and the population was to be 538,000 Jews and 397,000 Arabs. The Arab State was to be 4,500 square miles with a population of 804,000 Arabs and 10,000 Jews. Though the Jews were allotted more total land, the majority of that land was in the desert.
Israel’s land which was originally mandated at 126,000+ sq. km., was now to be a mere 14,245 sq. kms. In addition to limiting Jewish lands, the immigration of Jews was also limited so that a majority of Jews in the land would never be accomplished. Arab immigration had no immigration restrictions.
Israel accepted the partition, but in reality, it did not change or diminish the legality of the lands mandated for Israel – which still included the West Bank and the Gaza Strip – BECAUSE, the Arabs would agree to nothing which facilitated Jews in Palestine.
Creating the Arab state of Jordan in no way affected or “changed the status of Jews west of the Jordan River, nor did it inhibit their right to settle anywhere in western Palestine, the area between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea.” Nothing from the time of the Mandate until today, changes the fact that under international law, the West Bank and Gaza is open to Jewish settlement.
Under international law, neither Jordan nor the Palestinian Arab ‘people’ of the West Bank and the Gaza Strip have a substantial claim to the sovereign possession of the occupied territories.
The UN Charter’s Article 80 implicitly recognizes the “Mandate for Palestine” of the League of Nations. The International Court of Justice has reaffirmed the validity of Article of 80.
In other words, neither the ICJ nor the UN General Assembly can arbitrarily change the status of Jewish settlement as set forth in the “Mandate for Palestine,” an international accord that has never been amended.
All of western Palestine, from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea, including the West Bank and Gaza, remains open to Jewish settlement under international law.
The new Jewish state was to have the right to self-determination of political, civil and religious rights. “Not once are Arabs as a people mentioned in the Mandate for Palestine. At no point in the entire document is there any granting of political rights to non-Jewish entities (i.e., Arabs).”
The Arabs accepted nothing. They wanted no Jews in Palestine, under any circumstance – there would be, to this day, no acceptable plan to which Arabs would agree to living next door to Jews.
On May 14th, 1948, a temporary legislature of the soon-to-be Israel, accepted the U.N. partition and declared statehood.
Eleven minutes after, the United States recognized the State of Israel. On May 15th, 1948 Egypt, Iraq, Lebanon and Syria invaded the sovereign nation of Israel, crossing international frontiers, and the Arab-Israeli War (Israeli War of Independence) began.
By July 24, 1949, Syria had signed an armistice agreement and Israel had increased it’s land area by almost 50% over the U.N. partition plan. The resulting armistice determined Israel’s borders for nineteen years. Egypt gained Gaza in the armistice. This document offers good discussion and links to maps that your browser may find satisfactory (mine did not).
By Fall 1949, Jordan had control of Gaza and East Jerusalem.
The odd and secretive 1956 War began. The short but incomplete story is that Israel took Egypt’s Sinai Peninsula, and then under threat by the U.S., gave it back.
Then came the 1967 Six Day War. In the Spring, Syria conducted terrorist raids against Israel, water was diverted by Syria, from Israel and irrigation projects for south and central Israel, although approved by Arab engineers as non-detrimental to Arab lands, were not approved by the Arab governments. In May, Egypt blocked the Strait of Tiran to Israeli ships. “Lebanon, Kuwait and Saudi Arabia all activated their militaries. Iraqi troops reportedly approached the Syrian and Jordanian borders while Jordan moved tanks towards the West Bank.”
Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Jordan and Saudi Arabia formed a “defense pact.” Egyptian President Nasser said “Our basic objective will be the destruction if Israel. The Arab people want to fight….” This link is an excellent map of the areas of attack on Israel from the “pact.” Click to enlarge the map. The tiny nation of Israel was surrounded by “some 500,000 troops, more than 5,000 tanks, and almost 1,000 fighter planes.” France, Israel’s major arms supplier, issued a “complete ban on weapons sales and transfers to Israel.”
Under the leadership of Moyshe Dayan, Israel decided to go to war on June 5, 1967.
After a three days of fierce fighting, especially in and around Jerusalem, Israeli forces defeated the Jordanians and gained control of all of Jerusalem as well as the West Bank, the historical heartland of the Jewish people known to Israelis as Judea and Samaria. Following an air attack by the Syrians on the first day of the war, Israel dealt a shattering blow to the Syrian air force. …on fifth day of the war, the Israelis mustered enough forces to remove the Syrian threat from the Golan Heights. This difficult operation was completed the following day, bringing the active phase of the war to a close.
Israel now looked like this:
The areas shown in bright green (Sinai, Golan Heights, Gaza, West Bank and East Jerusalem) were occupied by Israel during the 6-day war. Israel has since returned all of Sinai to Egypt in return for peace. Most of Gaza is currently under the jurisdiction of the autonomous Palestinian Authority (2002). Parts of the West Bank (see Map of Israel and Palestinian territories following Oslo II) had been ceded to the Palestinian authority, but these areas are currently re-occupied by Israel. Following the 6 day war, Israel began building settlements in these areas. Click for a map of the settlements.
The aftermath of the war was complicated, but one fact was all too simple: Arabs rejected all diplomatic attempts.
Some of [the] displaced people were able to return to Israeli-controlled West Bank and, along with their neighbors, witnessed unprecedented economic growth over the course of the next two decades. Israeli investment into the infrastructure of the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, coupled with policies that allowed Arabs to move freely increased the standard of living of Palestinians, who were now able to work both in Israel and in the oil rich countries in the Middle East.
After years of relative prosperity followed but Palestinians and the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO) insisted that they would replace Israel, not co-exist with her.
With continued PLO agitation of the people, violence became common. Israel made peace with Egypt and returned the Sinai. The 1993 failed Oslo Peace Accord had Israel giving up the Gaza Strip and the West Bank – which was accomplished with Israel’s withdrawal, including the ejection of Jewish residents in the area in 2005. Once out of Gaza, nothing changed. The terrorists of Gaza Strip became slumlords and violence against Israel has continued.
Palestinian militants—with the support of their Hamas-led government—have used the evacuated territory to launch rockets into Israel’s pre-1967 borders, shelling residents of Sderot and other neighboring communities and causing death, injuries and damage within Israel. Since Israel’s withdrawal from the Gaza Strip, the territory has also become the site of deadly internecine violence among Palestinian factions, kidnapping of journalists, vandalism, looting and general mayhem. Far from bringing peace to the Gaza Strip, the withdrawal has resulted in less secure borders for Israel.
In the 1973 War (Yom Kippur War), again the Arab world came against Israel, as Egypt sought to regain territories lost to Israel in 1967. After two days of trying to recover from the surprise attack, Israel’s IDF blocked Syrian, Egyptian and Iraqi assaults and once again took the Golan Heights. By the time a U.N. ceasefire was implemented, “Israel had completely surrounded the Egyptian Third Army.”
How could they succeed when Palestinian leadership remained and remains committed to the destruction of Israel? For those deluded into thinking that Palestinians will accept “peace” with Israel, and co-exist next door to her – if only Israel will remove all settlements from wherever they may be…that just doesn’t wash. The issue is not the Jews in the settlements. The issue is the Jews in Palestine.
No discussion of the Israeli-Arab conflict is complete without taking a look at the Palestinian people. Who are they? Who did they evolve from?
The area known as Palestine was and is a geographic area, not an ethnic people. In other words, Arabs living in the area are not ethnically Palestinian. To say it another way: Palestinians are not a native people. “The word Palestine is not even Arabic.”
Palestine is a name coined by the Romans around 135 CE from the name of a seagoing Aegean people who settled on the coast of Canaan in antiquity – the Philistines. The name was chosen to replace Judea, as a sign that Jewish sovereignty had been eradicated following the Jewish Revolts against Rome.
In the course of time, the Latin name Philistia was further bastardized into Palistina or Palestine. During the next 2,000 years Palestine was never an independent state belonging to any people, nor did a Palestinian people distinct from other Arabs appear during 1,300 years of Muslim hegemony in Palestine under Arab and Ottoman rule. During that rule, local Arabs were actually considered part of, and subject to, the authority of Greater Syria ( Suriyya al-Kubra).
Archeologists explain that the Philistines were a Mediterranean people who settled along the coast of Canaan in 1100 BCE. They have no connection to the Arab nation, a desert people who emerged from the Arabian Peninsula.
The Jerusalem Post, founded in 1932, was called The Palestine Post until 1948. Bank Leumi L’Israel, incorporated in 1902, was called the “Anglo-Palestine Company” until 1948.
The Jewish Agency – an arm of the Zionist movement engaged in Jewish settlement since 1929 – was initially called the Jewish Agency for Palestine.
Today’s Israel Philharmonic Orchestra, founded in 1936 by German Jewish refugees who fled Nazi Germany, was originally called the “Palestine Symphony Orchestra,” composed of some 70 Palestinian Jews.
The United Jewish Appeal (UJA) was established in 1939 as a merger of the United Palestine Appeal and the fund-raising arm of the Joint Distribution Committee.
Fifty-one countries acknowledged that Israel had an historic connection to the land eventually known as Palestine:
Whereas recognition has been given to the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine and to the grounds for reconstituting their national home in that country.
Furthermore:
The rhetoric by Arab leaders on behalf of the Palestinians rings hollow. Arabs in neighboring states, who control 99.9 percent of the Middle East land, have never recognized a Palestinian entity. They have always considered Palestine and its inhabitants part of the great “Arab nation,” historically and politically as an integral part of Greater Syria…
The Arabs never established a Palestinian state when the UN in 1947 recommended to partition Palestine, and to establish “an Arab and a Jewish state” (not a Palestinian state, it should be noted). Nor did the Arabs recognize or establish a Palestinian state during the two decades prior to the Six-Day War when the West Bank was under Jordanian control and the Gaza Strip was under Egyptian control; nor did the Palestinian Arabs clamor for autonomy or independence during those years under Jordanian and Egyptian rule.
The population of Lebanon, Syria, Jordan and Iraq did not “evolve,” but were created by “colonial powers.” No “Palestinian DNA exists!
Unlike nation-states in Europe, modern Lebanese, Jordanian, Syrian, and Iraqi nationalities did not evolve. They were arbitrarily created by colonial powers.
In 1919, in the wake of World War I, England and France as Mandatory (e.g., official administrators and mentors) carved up the former Ottoman Empire, which had collapsed a year earlier, into geographic spheres of influence. This divided the Mideast into new political entities with new names and frontiers.
The prevailing rationale behind these artificially created states was how they served the imperial and commercial needs of their colonial masters. Iraq and Jordan, for instance, were created as emirates to reward the noble Hashemite family from Saudi Arabia for its loyalty to the British against the Ottoman Turks during World War I, under the leadership of Lawrence of Arabia. Iraq was given to Faisal bin Hussein, son of the sheriff of Mecca, in 1918. To reward his younger brother Abdullah with an emirate, Britain cut away 77 percent of its mandate over Palestine earmarked for the Jews and gave it to Abdullah in 1922, creating the new country of Trans-Jordan or Jordan, as it was later named.
The conclusion: don’t waste your energy and your angst blaming Israel for stealing the homeland of the Palestinians. Don’t obsess over the dead and dying in Palestine. The time has come to recognize that Palestinian leaders have gravely failed their own. The millions of dollars of aid to feed and clothe the poor and oppressed seldom get to the people. Philanthropy buys weapons and means to attack Israel.
Westerners supporting Palestine believe that if Israel will only turn over their settlements to Palestine, Israel and Palestine will live side-by-side in peace. This is inane and vacuous thinking. It is the willing suspension of disbelief. It is pure anti-semitism. Serious thought cannot arrive at such a conclusion.
The Fatah Constitution Articles 12 and 19: Complete liberation of Palestine and eradication of Zionist economic, political, military and cultural existence.”Armed struggle is a strategy and not a tactic, and the Palestinian Arab People’s armed revolution is a decisive factor in the liberation fight and in uprooting the Zionist existence, and this struggle will not cease unless the Zionist state is demolished and Palestine is completely liberated.”
The PLO Charter Article 15 calls the liberation of Palestine a national (qawmi) duty to repel the Zionist and imperialist aggression against the Arab homeland, and aims at the “liquidation of the Zionist presence” in Palestine.
The Hamas Charter: “The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees….Hamas Charter Article 15 (a portion): “The day that enemies usurp part of Moslem land, Jihad becomes the individual duty of every Moslem. In face of the Jews’ usurpation of Palestine, it is compulsory that the banner of Jihad be raised. To do this requires the diffusion of Islamic consciousness among the masses, both on the regional, Arab and Islamic levels. It is necessary to instill the spirit of Jihad in the heart of the nation so that they would confront the enemies and join the ranks of the fighters.”
How does a non-Muslim supporter of Palestine ignore a terrorist-led government, terrorist aggression against Israel, and government Constitutions and Charters with a clear goal of wiping Israel off the face of the earth?
Tell me, how does a Westerner give half-hearted support to Israel?
Excellent Related Insight:
Israel’s Morality Versus Hamas’s Morality: Who Are The The “Peace Activists” anyway? at Ft. Hard Knox
Apparently Amos at Simply Jews
Thanks for the link and regards.
great history lesson. not all westerners are lukewarm in suport od Israel. many of us are fully commited to there cause. well done
Jo, thanks for coming by and the kind comments. I agree with you, many ARE committed to Israel living in peace on their land.
I regret that I am now too old for a fight. In 1967 we loaded all of our gear on C-130’s and waited for the word that we were going to Israel. We were ready to support Israel with our blood and I feel no different today.
As a Christian, I recognize the basic beliefs of humanity that link us with Judaism.
Please keep the faith and know that MOST of America supports your actions.
Semper Fidelis.
Old U.S. Jarhead, you point out the basic beliefs of humanity. That is the issue! Israel’s neighbors know nothing of basic humanity, even within their own families and society.
Thanks for your service.
The above is one of the most outrageous statements that could be ever made regarding the Arab Palestinian/ Israeli conflict. the preceding convoluted chronology would never yield such a conclusion in any reasonable mind; but for racists, war-mongers, and arrogant minds it surely would.
I agree, however, that certain Palestinian leaders (called moderates like the weakling Abbas) have indeed failed their people by agreeing to hold, in the first place, peace talks with a belligerent country as Israel is and with a racist mind-set as the one the majority of Israelis have been indoctrinated to have.
The author asks us to ignore all of the killings, atrocities, and dispossession of the Palestinians, and reminds us that the Jews did not steal their lands in 1948. What a farce!
It is evident he is addressing ignorant minds who know not the truth. I have already posted elsewhere about the Israeli scholar Benny Morris exposing in his book, of 1987 about the Palestinian Refugee problem 1948-49, all the lies concerning the Jews not stealing the lands and narrating the Zionist agenda then of emptying Palestine of its inhabitants to make room for arriving European settlers.
As to his call to not obsess over the dead and dying amongst Palestinians, does it not remind us of similar calls made by the Nazis to their inhabitants to ignore the atrocities against the Jews in their concentration camps? It is actually advantageous that people like the author express what is really inside so that the lies they have been circulating for the past 60 years are exposed. His evident black grudge against humanity is abundantly clear.
The author in worrying about the few millions sent to the Palestinian weakling Abbas, he conveniently forgets the billions of Dollars the American taxpayer sends to Israel every year to sustain its evil army, and to help postpone its inevitable end. The American people of 2009 are becoming aware of the facts and are no longer gullible to give away their hard earned dollars to a criminal racist entity like Israel.
The Arabs and Muslims will eventually liberate the whole of Palestine without a doubt (there is no compromise here as this Western vicious puppy called Israel has not the legitimacy to exist in the first place, nor the moral stand to be forgiven) and statement like the above and its author, will be relegated to the dustbin of history as Hitler and his similar ideas were.
Here is the statement that I have referred to in my above post; somehow it was removed from the body of the post:
“The conclusion: don’t waste your energy and your angst blaming Israel for stealing the homeland of the Palestinians. Don’t obsess over the dead and dying in Palestine. The time has come to recognize that Palestinian leaders have gravely failed their own. The millions of dollars of aid to feed and clothe the poor and oppressed seldom get to the people. Philanthropy buys weapons and means to attack Israel.”
Solomon, I’ve made my points and I stand by them. You are free to feel and believe whatever.
I believe that those who die in this war will pave the way for fewer to die in the future, unless Palestine wants no peace.
You fail to address the calls for death to Israel from Arab constiutions and charters. This is not something a reasonable person can ignore.
You insist that your sources are the only sources to be considered. Cute, Solomon, really cute.
You’ve called me ignorant, racist, war-mongering, and arrogant – and things I’m sure I’ve forgotten. Let’s agree that we have nothing more to discuss.
There will be no peace at all until the concept of Israel a a purely Jewish state is done with. There will be more to die until this finally happens; all because some arrogant intellectuals like Herzl and his clan, back in the late 19th century, thought it possible to create a Jewish state by force in the midst of Arab and Muslim lands. Death to Israel as a pure Jewish state concept is a correct call indeed but not so to the Jewish people now residing in Palestine under the name Israelis.
My sources are credible; you did not produce any credible book or author. As I named you an Israeli scholar as a source supporting my arguments, you need to name at least one Arab or Muslim source who would support yours; he may not be an Israeli.
I did not call you anything; I called the person who made that conclusion requesting that we do not obsess over the dead and dying in Palestine those names and I stand by it.
I do not agree on anything with you; I simply post my comments and you are free to respond or not.
Solomon, read the article. It was my conclusion.
Maggie:
If you are the author of “don’t obsess over the dead and dying in Palestine” then you are indeed a racist, warmonger, and arrogant. And, I do not have any apologies for calling you that. What you said is a much greater insult than what I have called you.
Here is a quote from Herzl the Zionist:
THEODOR HERZL
Theodor Herzl (1860-1904), the founder of modern Zionism, recognized that anti-Semitism would further his cause, the creation of a separate state for Jews. To solve the Jewish Question, he maintained “we must, above all, make it an international political issue.”[1] Herzl wrote that Zionism offered the world a welcome “final solution of the Jewish question.”[2] In his “Diaries”, page 19, Herzl stated “Anti-Semites will become our surest friends, anti-Semitic countries our allies.”
Quote of the day to Maggie and her supporters:
Rabbi Hersh Lowenthal:
“Would the Jews be held responsible in a conflict between North Korea and South Korea? Obviously not! In the same way, Jews should not be held responsible for the Zionists conflicts with their neighbors. The State of Israel has as much to do with Jews and Judaism as does New Zealand or Zimbabwe,”
Very few people know about the cooperation between the Nazis and the Zionists:
“For all intents and purposes, the National Socialist government was the best thing to happen to Zionism in its history, for it “proved” to many Jews that Europeans were irredeemably anti-Jewish and that Palestine was the only answer: Zionism came to represent the overwhelming mjaority of Jews solely by trickery and cooperation with Adolf Hitler.” [1]
[1] Barnes Review, “The Jewish Declaration of War on Nazi Germany, The Economic Boycott of 1933″
Other Resources of interest:
The Transfer Agreement: The Dramatic Story of the Pact Between the Third Reich and Jewish Palestine,
by Edwin Black
It appears that solmonthewise is anything but. I can’t stand his propaganda. Israel needs to be America’s best friend for they are God’s chosen people. Let us all pray for Israel and that the world community will see their right to exist and defend themselves from Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran, and all other terrorists in the middle east.
Man4Truth:
You cannot stand what I write because you have no response. And you have no response because either your knowledge is limited or your training as a Zionist mouthpiece incomplete.
However, it is interesting that you are evoking religion here and claiming that Americans should support Israel because the Jews are God’s chosen! What about those Americans (The great great majority) who do not believe that the Jews are God’s chosen? Do you suggest we also subject them to a similar carnage as the one taking place in Gaza now? Is it OK not to believe that the Jews are not chosen or anything?
Other readers of this site can now see very clearly that those who cunningly claim to be secular defending democracy, are in actuality basing their political stands on religious ideas that the Jews are chosen or any other like fanatic babbling.
As you pray Man4Truth, there are billion and more Muslims, Christians and other (real) Jews also praying but for the opposite; the destruction of that racist and evil idea called Israel.
ISRAEL was given to the Jewish people after ww2 by the WORLD..in retribution of the Holocaust. ISRAEL has the god given right to defend it’s country.
HAMAS has been bombing southern Israel for the past 8 months. enough is enough. they should blow up the arab states who bother them. They areNOT FIGHTING WITH THE PALESTINIANS..BUT WITH THE TERRORISTS THAT SURROUND THEM..HAMAS AND THE OTHER GROUPS. READ THE PAPER..LISTEN TO THE NEWS. THE UN has some nerve to tell them cease fire. GO ISRAEL..GO..FIGHT FOR WHAT’S YOURS. ANYONE WHO BOMBS ANOTHER COUNTRY DESERVES RETALIATION. HAMAS DESERVES TO DIE. ISRAEL IS PROTECTING THE WORLD FROM TERRORISM.
man4 truth HOW DARE YOU CALL ISRAEL EVIL. I RESENT THAT STATEMENT AS A JEW AND A PEACE LOVING HUMAN BEING. ISRAEL HAS THE RIGHT TO RID ITSELF OF TERRORISTS. ISRAEL IS NOT EVIL. ISRAEL IS THE CENTER OF GOD TO ALLPEOPLE..HOW DARE YOU NOT forgin the Jewish people a ;home land. you are a sick individual. YOU ARE EVIL. GO TO HELL
america shoudl support israel AT ALL COSTS. YOU ARE A MORON TO THINK OTHERWISE. YOU ANTISEMETIC PEACE OF HUMAN GARBAGE. GO TO HELL MAN 4 TRUTH..YOU NAZI…SKINHEAD…YOU ARE EVIL. …NOT ISRAEL
man 4 truth is man 4 lies. is man for antisemetism…is man for hatred…should leave america and see what it’slike to be blown up in the gaza strip…go to palestine and defend the eenmy. YOU ARE EVIL YOU ARE EVIL YOU ARE EVIL. GO TO HELL
soloman the wise and man4turth should be flown to gaza and made to stay there during the war…go face to face with HAMAS who’s plans is to kill all the jews like hitler tried to do. DO YOU AGREE WITH HITLER YOU PIECES OF HUMAN IGNORANT GARBAGE? DO YOU THINK WHAT HE DID TO 6,000,000 PEOPLE WAS JUST. YOU ANTISEMETIC EVIL HUMAN BEINGS. GO TO HELL….DOGS
Mary m:
You are simply silly; you have been attacking man4truth who is on your side! You are so deluded, fouled mouth and have nothing important to say except parroting words that world has tired of.
Israel is very evil and the world has started to recognize this; I am sure the demonstrations throughout the world makes you loose much sleep. Your darling Israel is on its way down and all of your anger will not save it. Just sit and watch how Hamas will defeat it as Hebollah did two years ago.
Mary m writes:
“ISRAEL was given to the Jewish people after ww2 by the WORLD..in retribution of the Holocaust. ISRAEL has the god given right to defend it’s country.”
How funny; so the imperial powers (The league of Nations) are considered the “World” in the mind of Mary m as in the above statement. Well, the real world is the one that had voted to make equal Zionism and Nazism. The real world is the one we see today demonstrating against Israel mayhem in Gaza (to no use or military advantage) and calling Israel the names it deserves; evil being the common name.
Mary m writes like an elementary student who has just begun education, claiming that the world gave Palestine to the Jews as a “retribution” to the Holocaust. She needs to consult with her Zionist trainers so she could learn about the Balfour Declaration 1917, which Imperial Britain issued to the Jewish Banker Rothschild, promising him Palestine as a homeland for the Jews; some 30 years before the conclusion of WWII.
If it is not a lack of knowledge or education, This would be typical of Zionists who learned well from the Nazi Goebbels that if one lies, repeat the lies, and then insist that it is the truth, then the gullible masses’ ensuing gossip will make it the apparent truth.
The world gave the Jews nothing, rather the victorious imperial powers colluded to deprive the Arabs from a united kingdom as promised for their role in WWI and instead gave away Palestine to the Zionists so they could help prevent by force the recreation of an Islamic central government as the Ottomans were before their defeat in 1917. Israel is simply an advanced military base acting on behalf of Western Powers and fulfilling the very reason for which it was created.
Deluded are those who think that Western leaders support Israel because of any moral stands; Israel is the West’s illegitimate child and their support will be forthcoming until the West realizes (as they do now) how expensive and vicious a young teen that child has become. It is very clear now that Western support is not as sure as it had been and the Zionist Jews must recognize that they had picked the wrong people for enemies and the wrong ideology to challenge; they simply have no chance and we are watching today the violent convulsions of a dying system akin to that the world had seen in the form of atrocities, as the Nazis started dying in 1943.
One week so far and the arrogant IDF is unable to progress its ground offensive or stop the missiles retaliating for the IDF and Israeli Air force atrocities, and against whom? a group of irregulars that dad been circled and besieged for two years. What a performance? Western leaders must be now scratching their heads and wondering how useful this loud dog of theirs has been; despite of all the loud barking and biting.
IDF is now running out of ammunition and the Pentagon is now looking for contractors to transport the replenishment to Israel; let us just watch if it would do any good; it never did in July of 2006.
Mary m writes:
“HOW DARE YOU CALL ISRAEL EVIL. I RESENT THAT STATEMENT AS A JEW AND A PEACE LOVING HUMAN BEING. ISRAEL HAS THE RIGHT TO RID ITSELF OF TERRORISTS.”
And who are you to dictate what people want to say? You could resent statements as you like but you definitely are not a peace loving human being; a peace loving human being does not have your demeanor or the fouled mouth you have.
We all saw the terrorists Israel has been engaged in killing; babies, kids, mothers, fathers, and old men blown to pieces; what a shame! The whole world watched in horror as Israel forced some 110 people, it had hijacked, into a house which later was targeted with air bombardment resulting in the wholesale death of some 45 people of several families and the wounding of the rest! The UN has also confirmed the intentional shelling of a UN run school, where people gathered to escape the inhumane bombardment of their houses, and where some 35 people died instantly of mortar shelling with many others wounded.
This is real Israel, and it is evil no matter how many times Mary m babbles the overused word of “antisemitic” with which they threaten anyone who speaks the truth.
She will now sit, watch, and agonize with Maggie over the inevitable defeat of their darling Israel; the supreme of evilness.
Your opening premise revealed a bias. Arab states in 67 openly declared their intention to through the Jews into the Sea. The Arab states who ruled Samaria/Jordan and Gaza/Egypt suffered a “disasterous” defeat. No one, you can not find a single source – cause there aint one – which accused Jordan and Egypt of occupying “palestinian” lands. The rest of your argument represents a house of cards.