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	<title>Comments on: Joel Stein: Liberals don&#8217;t love America the way conservatives do</title>
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	<description>Beating Them With Their Own Sickle And Hammer</description>
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		<title>By: Louis Morrone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Louis Morrone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 07:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S. Dennis D: Can I borrow your crystal ball?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. Dennis D: Can I borrow your crystal ball?</p>
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		<title>By: Louis Morrone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Louis Morrone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 07:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But then that begs the question: Why can&#039;t we have a perfect America? Why can&#039;t we both love America and see it&#039;s flaws, and try to actually fix them and then learn from them so we don&#039;t make the same ones again? I pose the question, WHY can America not one day be perfect? Why must there be flaws? Why must we let there be flaws? Maybe I&#039;m too naive, but I think that if we were able to combine liberalism and conservatism then we&#039;d have the perfect country. They both have good ideas, but separately they cause more problems then they fix.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But then that begs the question: Why can&#8217;t we have a perfect America? Why can&#8217;t we both love America and see it&#8217;s flaws, and try to actually fix them and then learn from them so we don&#8217;t make the same ones again? I pose the question, WHY can America not one day be perfect? Why must there be flaws? Why must we let there be flaws? Maybe I&#8217;m too naive, but I think that if we were able to combine liberalism and conservatism then we&#8217;d have the perfect country. They both have good ideas, but separately they cause more problems then they fix.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 01:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liberals need to remember John McCain&#039;s comment from a few months ago:

&quot;I don&#039;t wish my opponent luck, but I do wish him well.&quot;

I, for one, don&#039;t wish Obama &quot;luck,&quot; because he doesn&#039;t deserve it: he&#039;s been &quot;lucky&quot; his entire life although he&#039;ll never admit it.

I do wish Obama &quot;well,&quot; because if he fails (especially in foreign policy), we&#039;ll all be going down with the &quot;S.S. Obamatanic.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liberals need to remember John McCain&#8217;s comment from a few months ago:</p>
<p>&#8220;I don&#8217;t wish my opponent luck, but I do wish him well.&#8221;</p>
<p>I, for one, don&#8217;t wish Obama &#8220;luck,&#8221; because he doesn&#8217;t deserve it: he&#8217;s been &#8220;lucky&#8221; his entire life although he&#8217;ll never admit it.</p>
<p>I do wish Obama &#8220;well,&#8221; because if he fails (especially in foreign policy), we&#8217;ll all be going down with the &#8220;S.S. Obamatanic.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 00:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t want Obama to fail. I know he will fail. I just want it to happen faster so we can fix this nation and defeat Reid and Pelosi in 2010.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t want Obama to fail. I know he will fail. I just want it to happen faster so we can fix this nation and defeat Reid and Pelosi in 2010.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Drake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Drake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 23:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel that the Liberals are looking at the Emperor&#039;s new clothes and saying how wonderful they are.  Such wonderful color combinations, etc.  

Conservatives are like the little boy saying &quot;the emperor has no clothes on.&quot;  

you could substitute &#039;experience&quot;, &quot;qualifications&quot; and a few other such statements in regards to our next prez.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel that the Liberals are looking at the Emperor&#8217;s new clothes and saying how wonderful they are.  Such wonderful color combinations, etc.  </p>
<p>Conservatives are like the little boy saying &#8220;the emperor has no clothes on.&#8221;  </p>
<p>you could substitute &#8216;experience&#8221;, &#8220;qualifications&#8221; and a few other such statements in regards to our next prez.</p>
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		<title>By: libocrat</title>
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		<dc:creator>libocrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 22:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liberals [edited] on America day after day and are surprised that we notice.  They say they want to change the flaws in America.  They see America as Quasimoto, Conservatives see America as...well....Miss America.
Liberals see America&#039;s riches and our goodness and charity as not enough.  They&#039;d rather we were like the nations that CANNOT provide charity because of their Quasimoto like flaws.  In general liberals are SPOILED [edited]-HATS who don&#039;t have a clue how good they have it.  And most liberals are completely dependent on Government for their income or employment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liberals [edited] on America day after day and are surprised that we notice.  They say they want to change the flaws in America.  They see America as Quasimoto, Conservatives see America as&#8230;well&#8230;.Miss America.<br />
Liberals see America&#8217;s riches and our goodness and charity as not enough.  They&#8217;d rather we were like the nations that CANNOT provide charity because of their Quasimoto like flaws.  In general liberals are SPOILED [edited]-HATS who don&#8217;t have a clue how good they have it.  And most liberals are completely dependent on Government for their income or employment.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray-boy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray-boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 22:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liberals tend to look at the US as nothing more than the sum of its pathologies.

I tend to look for the good in people, and in America. Liberals are always looking for the bad so they can point it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liberals tend to look at the US as nothing more than the sum of its pathologies.</p>
<p>I tend to look for the good in people, and in America. Liberals are always looking for the bad so they can point it out.</p>
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		<title>By: Libs hate America</title>
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		<dc:creator>Libs hate America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 22:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David is a typical liberal anti American bedwetting moonbat who spews hatred about 50% of America then hopes no one calls him on it.

 Of course in there are some people who want the Marxist Hussein to fail in his desire to destroy America, and there are others that just hate him for what he did to Hillary, but that isn&#039;t what Davy was insinuating was it?

 If Hussein forsakes the anti-American tendencies he embraced to get the left wing to nominate him, I have a feeling that it won&#039;t be conservatives who want him to fail it will be far left commies like Davy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David is a typical liberal anti American bedwetting moonbat who spews hatred about 50% of America then hopes no one calls him on it.</p>
<p> Of course in there are some people who want the Marxist Hussein to fail in his desire to destroy America, and there are others that just hate him for what he did to Hillary, but that isn&#8217;t what Davy was insinuating was it?</p>
<p> If Hussein forsakes the anti-American tendencies he embraced to get the left wing to nominate him, I have a feeling that it won&#8217;t be conservatives who want him to fail it will be far left commies like Davy.</p>
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		<title>By: Far Lefty Liberal Columnist Joel Stein Admits that Liberals Hate America &#124; Political Byline</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/12/26/joel-stein-liberals-dont-love-america-the-way-conservatives-do/comment-page-1/#comment-110658</link>
		<dc:creator>Far Lefty Liberal Columnist Joel Stein Admits that Liberals Hate America &#124; Political Byline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 21:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Stop The ACLU agrees with my assessment: And yeah, I understand the point of the column. It’s a criticism. We’re “blinded” by love to the point where we don’t even see America’s flaws. But that’s not quite true. I see them, as do many conservatives. But unlike liberals, that’s not all I see. I look at America and love her for everything she is, both the good and the bad. I look at my country, and despite the mistakes we have made and inevitably will continue to make, still know that this is the freest, best country on the face of the Earth, know that anyone from anywhere in the world can come here and build a good life for themselves if they’re only willing to work hard and play by the rules, that America will always stand for freedom and justice and democracy. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Stop The ACLU agrees with my assessment: And yeah, I understand the point of the column. It’s a criticism. We’re “blinded” by love to the point where we don’t even see America’s flaws. But that’s not quite true. I see them, as do many conservatives. But unlike liberals, that’s not all I see. I look at America and love her for everything she is, both the good and the bad. I look at my country, and despite the mistakes we have made and inevitably will continue to make, still know that this is the freest, best country on the face of the Earth, know that anyone from anywhere in the world can come here and build a good life for themselves if they’re only willing to work hard and play by the rules, that America will always stand for freedom and justice and democracy. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Postliberal</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Postliberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 21:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think that any human being entirely subscribes to an ideology, and so I am hesitant to generalize about &quot;liberals&quot; from &quot;liberalism&quot;. But with that proviso, I&#039;ll say that anybody who did subscribe to liberalism would not love anything, because liberalism is reductively materialistic, and creatures who are just stuff do not have anything to love with.  Nor can materialism describe any actual entity corresponding to a country that one can love.  The embarrassment of &quot;liberals&quot; about acknowledging love of a country, community, or family is a symptom of the fact that according to their ideology &quot;love&quot; is an illusion. Of course, they think that the &quot;love&quot; of conservatives is just as much of an illusion, and that is why liberals resent the accusation that they &quot;love&quot; their &quot;country&quot; less than conservatives do.  They think that everybody loves alike: zero. For liberalism &quot;countries&quot; are just names for sites on the planet that creatures like horses, hippos, and humans inhabit. For &quot;liberals&quot; the U.S. or Sweden could be perfect if they could feel about them exactly as otters feel about their stream. They only expect it to satisfy their physical needs, which liberals and otters agree are the only real needs there are. This is not a putdown on otters:  they &quot;love&quot; their homes just as much as liberals do, and in just the same way.  We should all be so wise:  according to liberalism, that is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think that any human being entirely subscribes to an ideology, and so I am hesitant to generalize about &#8220;liberals&#8221; from &#8220;liberalism&#8221;. But with that proviso, I&#8217;ll say that anybody who did subscribe to liberalism would not love anything, because liberalism is reductively materialistic, and creatures who are just stuff do not have anything to love with.  Nor can materialism describe any actual entity corresponding to a country that one can love.  The embarrassment of &#8220;liberals&#8221; about acknowledging love of a country, community, or family is a symptom of the fact that according to their ideology &#8220;love&#8221; is an illusion. Of course, they think that the &#8220;love&#8221; of conservatives is just as much of an illusion, and that is why liberals resent the accusation that they &#8220;love&#8221; their &#8220;country&#8221; less than conservatives do.  They think that everybody loves alike: zero. For liberalism &#8220;countries&#8221; are just names for sites on the planet that creatures like horses, hippos, and humans inhabit. For &#8220;liberals&#8221; the U.S. or Sweden could be perfect if they could feel about them exactly as otters feel about their stream. They only expect it to satisfy their physical needs, which liberals and otters agree are the only real needs there are. This is not a putdown on otters:  they &#8220;love&#8221; their homes just as much as liberals do, and in just the same way.  We should all be so wise:  according to liberalism, that is.</p>
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