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	<title>Comments on: Jerry Brown Says &#8220;Thwart The Will Of Californians&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: G</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/12/20/jerry-brown-says-thwart-the-will-of-californians/comment-page-1/#comment-110459</link>
		<dc:creator>G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 04:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Franklin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Franklin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 18:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>California allows its book sized constitution to be amended by a simple majority vote of the people, but it takes a 2/3 vote of the legislature to pass a budget and a 2/3 vote of the people to proposition to raise taxes.  This is a strange system. 

I think Attorney General Brown&#039;s argument is that Proposition 8 is so radical (by California Standards) that it constitutes a fundamental rewrite of the Constitution which would require a 2/3 vote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>California allows its book sized constitution to be amended by a simple majority vote of the people, but it takes a 2/3 vote of the legislature to pass a budget and a 2/3 vote of the people to proposition to raise taxes.  This is a strange system. </p>
<p>I think Attorney General Brown&#8217;s argument is that Proposition 8 is so radical (by California Standards) that it constitutes a fundamental rewrite of the Constitution which would require a 2/3 vote.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom the Redhunter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom the Redhunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 18:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&quot;I could almost really care less about the whole gay marriage issue. &quot;&lt;/em&gt;

You may not care about gay marriage, but it cares about you.

If you think that letting gays &quot;marry&quot; will have no effect on anyone but them, think again.

Gay marriage is about a lot of things, but marriage isn&#039;t one of them.  It is about trying to radically remake our society in a way to their liking.  It is about forcing everyone to equate their lifestyle as equal.   

You doubt me?  If gay marriage becomes legal, they&#039;ll demand that all churches marry them or lose their tax exempt status.  They&#039;ll demand that all photographers and caterers serve their weddings or face lawsuits.   They&#039;ll pass &quot;hate speech&quot; laws effectively outlawing all criticism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;I could almost really care less about the whole gay marriage issue. &#8220;</em></p>
<p>You may not care about gay marriage, but it cares about you.</p>
<p>If you think that letting gays &#8220;marry&#8221; will have no effect on anyone but them, think again.</p>
<p>Gay marriage is about a lot of things, but marriage isn&#8217;t one of them.  It is about trying to radically remake our society in a way to their liking.  It is about forcing everyone to equate their lifestyle as equal.   </p>
<p>You doubt me?  If gay marriage becomes legal, they&#8217;ll demand that all churches marry them or lose their tax exempt status.  They&#8217;ll demand that all photographers and caterers serve their weddings or face lawsuits.   They&#8217;ll pass &#8220;hate speech&#8221; laws effectively outlawing all criticism.</p>
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		<title>By: DavidL</title>
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		<dc:creator>DavidL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 18:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The state has always had the power re regulate marriage.  Which is why is illegal to marry your first cousin, except in Arkansas, and why we banned the Mormon practice of polygamy.   If you accept Jerry Brown&#039;s logic, or lack thereof same, as binding, the state, to wit the People, have no power to regulate any thing anybody would care to call marriage.

Call that what you will.  It sure is not civilization.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The state has always had the power re regulate marriage.  Which is why is illegal to marry your first cousin, except in Arkansas, and why we banned the Mormon practice of polygamy.   If you accept Jerry Brown&#8217;s logic, or lack thereof same, as binding, the state, to wit the People, have no power to regulate any thing anybody would care to call marriage.</p>
<p>Call that what you will.  It sure is not civilization.</p>
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		<title>By: Rhymes With Right</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rhymes With Right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 17:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Impeach Jerry Brown...&lt;/strong&gt;

When your obligation under the state constitution is to defend the laws of the state -- and any constitutional amendments passed by the people of your state -- your duty should be pretty clear. Unfortunately, California Attorney General Jerry Brown......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Impeach Jerry Brown&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>When your obligation under the state constitution is to defend the laws of the state &#8212; and any constitutional amendments passed by the people of your state &#8212; your duty should be pretty clear. Unfortunately, California Attorney General Jerry Brown&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Angie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 16:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If they want a direct democracy and counting every vote, then I guess there&#039;s no need for Representatives and Senators anymore, since that&#039;s, like, a REPUBLICAN democracy and not DIRECT.

How, exactly, can the state constitution itself be &quot;unconstitional&quot;?

Yet another aspect of our lives where the government nose has intruded yet does not belong.  Just like abortion, seatbelts, and any other number of personal choices that are being legislated to death.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If they want a direct democracy and counting every vote, then I guess there&#8217;s no need for Representatives and Senators anymore, since that&#8217;s, like, a REPUBLICAN democracy and not DIRECT.</p>
<p>How, exactly, can the state constitution itself be &#8220;unconstitional&#8221;?</p>
<p>Yet another aspect of our lives where the government nose has intruded yet does not belong.  Just like abortion, seatbelts, and any other number of personal choices that are being legislated to death.</p>
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		<title>By: Ira Kasper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ira Kasper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 16:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Possibly the Democratic mantra is Court every vote.  One of the major problems with the Liberal agenda is that they believe that they are so right that anyone who disagrees is evil. I can only hope that President Obama, who has made some interesting choices, will continue to recognize that only with the passage of more time than a single generation are we able to start to see the light of truth.  If you don&#039;t believe that you need a more solid background in the history of the human race.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Possibly the Democratic mantra is Court every vote.  One of the major problems with the Liberal agenda is that they believe that they are so right that anyone who disagrees is evil. I can only hope that President Obama, who has made some interesting choices, will continue to recognize that only with the passage of more time than a single generation are we able to start to see the light of truth.  If you don&#8217;t believe that you need a more solid background in the history of the human race.</p>
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