Comments on: Union’s Cure for State Budget Shortfall? Raise Taxes! http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/12/04/unions-cure-for-state-budget-shortfall-raise-taxes/ Beating Them With Their Own Sickle And Hammer Mon, 13 Feb 2012 15:23:11 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Warner Todd Huston http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/12/04/unions-cure-for-state-budget-shortfall-raise-taxes/comment-page-1/#comment-108864 Warner Todd Huston Fri, 05 Dec 2008 02:32:18 +0000 http://www.stoptheaclu.com/?p=17728#comment-108864 Well, you are 100% right that it isn't easy to fix any of it! As to any lament about cutting sports, with me that is a dead issue. I see NO use for sports in schools. If I were king for a day, I'd eliminate ALL sports programs and spend the money on useful things. Music, science, math... you know, things that are USEFUL! Sports does NOTHING for anyone. It is useless in every sense of the word. If kids want to join sports tams, there are plenty of them to join in the community. We don;t have to waste precious education budgets on garbage like sports. Well, you are 100% right that it isn’t easy to fix any of it!

As to any lament about cutting sports, with me that is a dead issue. I see NO use for sports in schools. If I were king for a day, I’d eliminate ALL sports programs and spend the money on useful things. Music, science, math… you know, things that are USEFUL! Sports does NOTHING for anyone. It is useless in every sense of the word.

If kids want to join sports tams, there are plenty of them to join in the community. We don;t have to waste precious education budgets on garbage like sports.

]]> By: Louis Morrone http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/12/04/unions-cure-for-state-budget-shortfall-raise-taxes/comment-page-1/#comment-108863 Louis Morrone Fri, 05 Dec 2008 02:26:32 +0000 http://www.stoptheaclu.com/?p=17728#comment-108863 Well I understand that but as of now, that's not going to happen, and so we here need to think realistically. If these cuts go through there will be class sizes of 50-60 students, no more libraries, counselors, cuts backs on electives, massive sports cuts, and any teachers that aren't tenured will be given up. I think step one is to fix the capital and all the people who serve in the legislature; especially the governor. If we find some competent people to run our state and make sure we don't run deficits in the first place (how can they approve a 103 bllion dollar budget a month and a half ago when they only have 93 billion dollars to spend?? That's what boggles my mind...), then anything else that needs to be dealt with can be by the right people. As for completely eradicating the unions, I don't know enough about that certain situation to tell you whether or not it should be done. Well I understand that but as of now, that’s not going to happen, and so we here need to think realistically. If these cuts go through there will be class sizes of 50-60 students, no more libraries, counselors, cuts backs on electives, massive sports cuts, and any teachers that aren’t tenured will be given up. I think step one is to fix the capital and all the people who serve in the legislature; especially the governor. If we find some competent people to run our state and make sure we don’t run deficits in the first place (how can they approve a 103 bllion dollar budget a month and a half ago when they only have 93 billion dollars to spend?? That’s what boggles my mind…), then anything else that needs to be dealt with can be by the right people. As for completely eradicating the unions, I don’t know enough about that certain situation to tell you whether or not it should be done.

]]> By: Warner Todd Huston http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/12/04/unions-cure-for-state-budget-shortfall-raise-taxes/comment-page-1/#comment-108855 Warner Todd Huston Fri, 05 Dec 2008 01:57:06 +0000 http://www.stoptheaclu.com/?p=17728#comment-108855 Actually, we spend too much money on education all across the country at one point or another. But, in truth, most of the money doesn't GO to the REAL education of a student. It is wasted on too many administrators and overly indulgent union contracts. the kids are the last to get any benefit and what they get is poor. For instance, no illegals should be allowed to go to school -- especially colleges -- PERIOD. Waste of money. There are too many administrators. The unions need to be eliminated universally... there's so much that can be cut that has NOTHING to do with actual teaching and the kids that it boggles the mind. Cutting is ALL we need. The governments in the US get PLENTY of money from taxes. But it is utterly wasted. Cutting programs is the only cure worth considering. Actually, we spend too much money on education all across the country at one point or another. But, in truth, most of the money doesn’t GO to the REAL education of a student. It is wasted on too many administrators and overly indulgent union contracts. the kids are the last to get any benefit and what they get is poor.

For instance, no illegals should be allowed to go to school — especially colleges — PERIOD. Waste of money. There are too many administrators. The unions need to be eliminated universally… there’s so much that can be cut that has NOTHING to do with actual teaching and the kids that it boggles the mind.

Cutting is ALL we need. The governments in the US get PLENTY of money from taxes. But it is utterly wasted. Cutting programs is the only cure worth considering.

]]> By: Louis Morrone http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/12/04/unions-cure-for-state-budget-shortfall-raise-taxes/comment-page-1/#comment-108817 Louis Morrone Thu, 04 Dec 2008 22:01:29 +0000 http://www.stoptheaclu.com/?p=17728#comment-108817 I'm curios as to your opinion on the state of california cutting education- again- billions of dollars next year to solve our budget crisis. I agree with you that we should be cutting programs that we really don't need in the first place, but education has been hit too hard and there are many of us here who are ready to organize something big (as in protests) if we need to. If you lived here then you'd understand that education is the last thing we should be cutting, right? But I disagree with your strict no new taxes stance, because I believe the only way to pay off our budget deficit is to both cut programs and raise taxes; Only one won't due. I’m curios as to your opinion on the state of california cutting education- again- billions of dollars next year to solve our budget crisis. I agree with you that we should be cutting programs that we really don’t need in the first place, but education has been hit too hard and there are many of us here who are ready to organize something big (as in protests) if we need to. If you lived here then you’d understand that education is the last thing we should be cutting, right? But I disagree with your strict no new taxes stance, because I believe the only way to pay off our budget deficit is to both cut programs and raise taxes; Only one won’t due.

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