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	<title>Comments on: Hawaiian Patriots Contact Hospitals: Obama &amp; Mom Never There?</title>
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		<title>By: Ed Darrell</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/12/03/hawaiian-patriots-contact-hospitals-obama-mom-never-there/comment-page-1/#comment-108972</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Darrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 23:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s the lowdown:
http://timpanogos.wordpress.com/2008/12/05/without-hysterics-the-obama-eligibility-issue/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the lowdown:<br />
<a href="http://timpanogos.wordpress.com/2008/12/05/without-hysterics-the-obama-eligibility-issue/" rel="nofollow">http://timpanogos.wordpress.com/2008/12/05/without-hysterics-the-obama-eligibility-issue/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 17:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ted is completely mistaken when he says &quot;&#039;o be “natural born citizen” (as opposed to being a “citizen”) being born on American soil is insufficient unless both parents are “citizens”.&quot;

The Fourteenth Amendment states that &quot;all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States.&quot; Since Hawaii is part of the United States, even if Barack Obama&#039;s parents were both non-U.S. citizens who hadn&#039;t even set foot in the country until just before he was born, he&#039;d still qualify as a natural-born citizen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ted is completely mistaken when he says &#8220;&#8216;o be “natural born citizen” (as opposed to being a “citizen”) being born on American soil is insufficient unless both parents are “citizens”.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Fourteenth Amendment states that &#8220;all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States.&#8221; Since Hawaii is part of the United States, even if Barack Obama&#8217;s parents were both non-U.S. citizens who hadn&#8217;t even set foot in the country until just before he was born, he&#8217;d still qualify as a natural-born citizen.</p>
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		<title>By: Steynian 293 &#171; Free Canuckistan!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steynian 293 &#171; Free Canuckistan!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 19:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] HAWAI&#8217;IAN Patriots Contact Hospitals: Obama &amp; Mom Never There &#8230;. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] HAWAI&#8217;IAN Patriots Contact Hospitals: Obama &amp; Mom Never There &#8230;. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Cris Ericson</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/12/03/hawaiian-patriots-contact-hospitals-obama-mom-never-there/comment-page-1/#comment-108786</link>
		<dc:creator>Cris Ericson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 08:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PETITION to the ELECTORAL COLLEGE 
for the release of
 Barack Hussein Obama&#039;s 
birth certificate, 
please sign
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;pageld=81550
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;pageld=81550&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; PLEASE SIGN PETITION &lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PETITION to the ELECTORAL COLLEGE<br />
for the release of<br />
 Barack Hussein Obama&#8217;s<br />
birth certificate,<br />
please sign<br />
<a href="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;pageld=81550" rel="nofollow">http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;pageld=81550</a><br />
<a href="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;pageld=81550" rel="nofollow"> PLEASE SIGN PETITION </a></p>
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		<title>By: Enuf with the Birth Certificate &#38; Hillary Already Yet! : The Pink Flamingo</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/12/03/hawaiian-patriots-contact-hospitals-obama-mom-never-there/comment-page-1/#comment-108783</link>
		<dc:creator>Enuf with the Birth Certificate &#38; Hillary Already Yet! : The Pink Flamingo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 07:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] latest is there is a possibility that there is no record of The One (elect) having been born at any hospital in Hawaii. To me the most fascinating tidbit, if it is true, is the fact that The [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] latest is there is a possibility that there is no record of The One (elect) having been born at any hospital in Hawaii. To me the most fascinating tidbit, if it is true, is the fact that The [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ted</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/12/03/hawaiian-patriots-contact-hospitals-obama-mom-never-there/comment-page-1/#comment-108777</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 05:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Folks, this is NOT rocket science.
Since the Constitution’s Article II requires our President to be a “natural born citizen” (not merely a “citizen” as allowed for those living when the Constitution was enacted), meaning both parents were US “citizens” when the child was born (altho parents need not be “natural born” citizens), there’s NO WAY Obama can be President — regardless of being born in Kenya OR Hawaii — that is, to be “natural born citizen” (as opposed to being a “citizen”) being born on American soil is insufficient unless both parents are “citizens”. Obama’s dad was NOT an American citizen. He was a citizen of the UK (administering Kenya at the time).
Case closed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Folks, this is NOT rocket science.<br />
Since the Constitution’s Article II requires our President to be a “natural born citizen” (not merely a “citizen” as allowed for those living when the Constitution was enacted), meaning both parents were US “citizens” when the child was born (altho parents need not be “natural born” citizens), there’s NO WAY Obama can be President — regardless of being born in Kenya OR Hawaii — that is, to be “natural born citizen” (as opposed to being a “citizen”) being born on American soil is insufficient unless both parents are “citizens”. Obama’s dad was NOT an American citizen. He was a citizen of the UK (administering Kenya at the time).<br />
Case closed.</p>
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		<title>By: Thistle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thistle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 01:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK...there is no evedence that Sarah Palin ever had a 5th child at any Alaskan hospital either...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK&#8230;there is no evedence that Sarah Palin ever had a 5th child at any Alaskan hospital either&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ponder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ponder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 01:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BRIBE? No! REWARD!

How about an offer of $100,000 each - 

1.  Doctor signing BC.
2.  Hospital administrator signing BC.

The offer should be good in Hawaii or Kenya</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BRIBE? No! REWARD!</p>
<p>How about an offer of $100,000 each &#8211; </p>
<p>1.  Doctor signing BC.<br />
2.  Hospital administrator signing BC.</p>
<p>The offer should be good in Hawaii or Kenya</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Brooks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Brooks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 00:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Googled Certificate of Birth and will admit
that it can legally be presented in lieu of the &quot;long form&quot; (the actual birth certificate) for day to day requirements that may require a birth certificate.  It does not have to have all the info of the long form on it to be accepted, such as Dr. or nurses name etc.  However even with that said (or typed? lol) there is enough of a suspicion that there is either: 1)no long form availiable or 2) that it contains info which could be damaging or bolster claims
that he was not born on US territory after all. Either way, would it not be more prudent just to allow it to be released to an unbiased outside authority so they could give a final thumbs up or thumbs down on its veracity and/or information without releasing anything sensitive should it be legal and okay?  Just from the stonewalling alone the only logical conclusion that I, for instance, and I assume many many more resonable people can be reach is..where there is smoke there may be fire, and what are they hiding by fighting something this seemingly insignifigant.  Maybe he is a stubborn SOB just like George Bush :)  Maybe thats a good thing if/when he has the football. Maybe we should find out before he does get it.  

(Side note:  Regarding Zarkawi&#039;s comments  
             about him )

To Zarkawi:
From: Typical American citizen

Look..I didn&#039;t vote for the man, nor would I have even under extreme torture.  If he is legally qualified to be President and won semi-fair and square, then all I have to say to you is...

SCREW YOU FATBOY!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Googled Certificate of Birth and will admit<br />
that it can legally be presented in lieu of the &#8220;long form&#8221; (the actual birth certificate) for day to day requirements that may require a birth certificate.  It does not have to have all the info of the long form on it to be accepted, such as Dr. or nurses name etc.  However even with that said (or typed? lol) there is enough of a suspicion that there is either: 1)no long form availiable or 2) that it contains info which could be damaging or bolster claims<br />
that he was not born on US territory after all. Either way, would it not be more prudent just to allow it to be released to an unbiased outside authority so they could give a final thumbs up or thumbs down on its veracity and/or information without releasing anything sensitive should it be legal and okay?  Just from the stonewalling alone the only logical conclusion that I, for instance, and I assume many many more resonable people can be reach is..where there is smoke there may be fire, and what are they hiding by fighting something this seemingly insignifigant.  Maybe he is a stubborn SOB just like George Bush <img src='http://www.stoptheaclu.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   Maybe thats a good thing if/when he has the football. Maybe we should find out before he does get it.  </p>
<p>(Side note:  Regarding Zarkawi&#8217;s comments<br />
             about him )</p>
<p>To Zarkawi:<br />
From: Typical American citizen</p>
<p>Look..I didn&#8217;t vote for the man, nor would I have even under extreme torture.  If he is legally qualified to be President and won semi-fair and square, then all I have to say to you is&#8230;</p>
<p>SCREW YOU FATBOY!!</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Brooks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Brooks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 22:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe a Certificate of Live Birth just documents that you showed up with a live baby
from almost anywhere, they look at it and say..&quot;Yup..its alive by cracky. Cute tyke too. Maybe he&#039;ll grow up to be President some day. You the mom? Where was he born? I&#039;ll sign that document now, see ya, have a nice day.&quot;  Maybe I&#039;m wrong?  Who knows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe a Certificate of Live Birth just documents that you showed up with a live baby<br />
from almost anywhere, they look at it and say..&#8221;Yup..its alive by cracky. Cute tyke too. Maybe he&#8217;ll grow up to be President some day. You the mom? Where was he born? I&#8217;ll sign that document now, see ya, have a nice day.&#8221;  Maybe I&#8217;m wrong?  Who knows.</p>
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