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	<title>Comments on: Now Banks Sued for &#8220;Reverse Redlining&#8221;</title>
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	<description>Beating Them With Their Own Sickle And Hammer</description>
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		<title>By: Angie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 03:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a never-ending circle of stupidity.

Had Moody&#039;s, Fitch, and S&amp;P NOT rated those bonds as they did, there would have been no money in the system to be making loans, and they would have faced a discrimination suit for disrupting funding for housing to said minorities.  The fact that borrowers could not (or would not) repay loans was entirely irrelevant; what WAS relevant was bloated statistics showing more minorities to be homeowners than ever before.  

NOT providing a high rating, with these mortgages being backed by the UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT, would have screamed loud and clear to investors across the globe:  DO NOT INVEST IN THE US GOVERNMENT, IT IS JUNK.

That obviously would have had a far more disturbing result - and on a lot shorter time line than the current failure.

Regardless, they cannot get it through their heads that the more they fiddle, the worse the outcome.  It&#039;s not a difficult concept to grasp, that the market is inherently self-correcting and external manipulations (over-regulation, subsidizing an industry, over-taxation, wage controls among others), leads to ever harsher - yet completely predictable - corrections.

What&#039;s worse, they seem to believe money really DOES grow on trees.  If the junk backing the bonds had been declared as such, no investor would have touched it with a 90-foot pole; but they think that money&#039;s still there for the grabbing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a never-ending circle of stupidity.</p>
<p>Had Moody&#8217;s, Fitch, and S&amp;P NOT rated those bonds as they did, there would have been no money in the system to be making loans, and they would have faced a discrimination suit for disrupting funding for housing to said minorities.  The fact that borrowers could not (or would not) repay loans was entirely irrelevant; what WAS relevant was bloated statistics showing more minorities to be homeowners than ever before.  </p>
<p>NOT providing a high rating, with these mortgages being backed by the UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT, would have screamed loud and clear to investors across the globe:  DO NOT INVEST IN THE US GOVERNMENT, IT IS JUNK.</p>
<p>That obviously would have had a far more disturbing result &#8211; and on a lot shorter time line than the current failure.</p>
<p>Regardless, they cannot get it through their heads that the more they fiddle, the worse the outcome.  It&#8217;s not a difficult concept to grasp, that the market is inherently self-correcting and external manipulations (over-regulation, subsidizing an industry, over-taxation, wage controls among others), leads to ever harsher &#8211; yet completely predictable &#8211; corrections.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s worse, they seem to believe money really DOES grow on trees.  If the junk backing the bonds had been declared as such, no investor would have touched it with a 90-foot pole; but they think that money&#8217;s still there for the grabbing?</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne from Jeremiah Films</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne from Jeremiah Films</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve added your post to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jeremiahfilms.com/BlogWatch/Economy/1201e&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;BlogWatch - Economic Meltdown&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve added your post to <a href="http://www.jeremiahfilms.com/BlogWatch/Economy/1201e" rel="nofollow">BlogWatch &#8211; Economic Meltdown</a></p>
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		<title>By: SH</title>
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		<dc:creator>SH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently ACORN isn&#039;t done bankrupting the US economy.</description>
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		<title>By: G P Hanner</title>
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		<dc:creator>G P Hanner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Discrimination per se is not illegal -- although many people will claim that.  If I weren&#039;t permitted to discriminate, ever, I would have no choices available to me, ever.

Discrimination based on the ability to repay a loan is not illegal discrimination.  Many recent college graduates, especially the ones with degrees in areas like &quot;theater management,&quot; probably can&#039;t qualify for a mortgage regardless of race or gender.

The problem arose when Congress stuck its nose into the issue first with CRA and then with the notion of &quot;affordable housing&quot; and lowered mortgage underwriting standards via Fan and Fred.  All of that came with the threat of prosecution for redlining -- and the promise of federal government backup in the event the mortgages went sour.  We can see how well that worked out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Discrimination per se is not illegal &#8212; although many people will claim that.  If I weren&#8217;t permitted to discriminate, ever, I would have no choices available to me, ever.</p>
<p>Discrimination based on the ability to repay a loan is not illegal discrimination.  Many recent college graduates, especially the ones with degrees in areas like &#8220;theater management,&#8221; probably can&#8217;t qualify for a mortgage regardless of race or gender.</p>
<p>The problem arose when Congress stuck its nose into the issue first with CRA and then with the notion of &#8220;affordable housing&#8221; and lowered mortgage underwriting standards via Fan and Fred.  All of that came with the threat of prosecution for redlining &#8212; and the promise of federal government backup in the event the mortgages went sour.  We can see how well that worked out.</p>
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		<title>By: ew</title>
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		<dc:creator>ew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand how the liberal illuminati can make literally everything about discrimination. Is there a way to do anything right, without offending people? This is an indication that the answer would be &quot;no.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand how the liberal illuminati can make literally everything about discrimination. Is there a way to do anything right, without offending people? This is an indication that the answer would be &#8220;no.&#8221;</p>
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