American Muslims Justify Mumbai: So Do American Liberals
Posted on November 29, 2008
Not that there is a whole lot of difference between the two. Both want to turn the world into some sort of Paradise. Of course, Muslims are more then happy to use violent means to their end. Liberals, not so much.
Rusty Shackleford over at The Jawa Report
Our nemesis Samir Khan [aka, "inshallahshaheed"] over at the “Ignored Puzzle Pieces of Knowledge” is talking about the Mumbai massacre over at this blog. I don’t think long time readers will be shocked that he offers no words of condemnation. Only equivocation and justification.
The crux of his argument is the same used by Salafist extremists of his ilk in their routine justification of al Qaeda and Taliban attacks on civilians: okay, so, you people kill innocent Muslims all the time. Classic equivocation.
Rusty goes on to provide many, many, many examples from Sammy and other American Muslims. Check them out. And then check out I blame the terrorists for terror, but we fed the beast. A history,” which is a long screed about how Booosh and America have enabled the terrorists, written right as the Mumbai attacks were going on
After 9/11 the world stood with the United States. In less than two years George Bush destroyed all that good will with America’s singular, dishonest, and reckless destruction of Iraq for what the whole world knew lay undrilled beneath Iraq’s terrain.
Our enemies in the region exploded, because of Iraq and because of George Bush. The Iraqi people bled and died as pawns in a power vacuum created by George Bush. American, Saudi, Kuwaiti, Iranian, and Syrian backed forces jostled for power and lay that nation to waste while George Bush took no serious steps to quell the violence. Al-Qaeda came to Iraq and expanded its cells around the world, always growing both weaker and wider in a sickening paradox. Neighbors turned on neighbors and violence and disease spread, while Americans lost interest and turned off CNN.
Because there was no terrorism before Bush. The liberal mindset. Hey, maybe they hate us because Clinton turned his back on 850,000 Rwandans as they were being slaughtered. Just as plausible a theory, eh?
For all the horrors done in my name; for all the suffering caused directly and indirectly by my tax dollars; for all the terrorists motivated, recruited, and armed by the hatred of George W Bush’s policies; for all the damage Bush did to America’s reputation and good will, humanity still–and perhaps naively still–looks to the United States to lead the way to a better tomorrow. How can this be? How are we all so lucky that the world hasn’t risen yet in arms to topple the last standing superpower? History all but demands this to happen. And yet they don’t turn on us.
Bucky then provides the long winded answer: hope ‘n change! And
So I’m just saying that, for me, I hope we, as a country, as a people, use this chance that history is granting us to make better choices this time around. We are blessed with great power and we have used it badly. We have not truly atoned for our sins. I don’t think we have the political will or resilience to atone for what our president has done. The collateral blood stains my hands too.
Put succinctly, America is at fault. The followers of the “religion of peace” only got mad because of George Bush.
Let’s find more wacko liberals
- It’s stunning to me after reading these posts for a couple days how much the woo woo cons piracy wackadoos and the Islamic jih adis and the right wind neo-con-na zis think in exactly the same way. I’d say we should round them all up and send them to Antarctica where they could hash it all out and leave the rest of us reasonable humans alone to live our lives.
- Which will be the first news agency to suggest that it was possibly the CIA. My guess is some outlet in France–the only Western media with any balls, which is why we hate them.
- Good point-it could have certainly been a false flag attack-there’s an air of sketchiness about the whole deal…For example: Who did it?!!
- The U.S. will go to war with Pakistan now. The oil and gas pipelines originating in the Caspian Basin and running through Afghanistan, thanks to our invasion and occupation in 2001, must now continue on to the sea ports. Iran is also another likely sight for future invasions.
- Why would you rule them out? I guess the memory is a little cloudy and the only difference between this and 9 11 is the number of people.
- the first thing i thought was cia or moo sad
- The war on terror was and still is an oxymoron. Obama should concentrate on the economy. Bush has fueled so much hatred against Americans by fighting terrorism with the US army. Your ridiculous army actions have nearly bankrupted the USA and done nothing good. When Obama “focuses” on Afghanista, they will kick your butt as they did with the Russians. (see, it is Bush’s fault. How dare he fight back!)
- “Who was behind the attacks”? Well we may not know their names……..or whatever name they want to call their “movement” or whatever…….but we know where they’re from don’t we?That’s right….on Jan 20th Pakistan will RE-assume their position as THE single greatest threat to peace and security worldwide
- (reply to the above comment) Because right now Pakistan is number two, behind the United States.
And for the “Nanny will take care of me” comment
Use of a personal sidearm would most likely contribute to the mayhem & many innocents could be injured or worse… the police could mistake you for one of the attackers.
What you say is VERY wise..
It’s like good common sense WHEREVER you are…. checking for fire exits & such.
Here in Southern California, it becomes second nature to plan an escape in case of a quake.
Got that? Run away, run away!
Oh, wait, it is originally the Brits fault
- Boy, did the British F*.*k up the region or what?
- Then WE took over.
- funny ….who do you think is behind the federal reserve??the bank of england……….they english empire has made a mess of everything
Weird people.
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I went to DC twice as a part of the GATHERING OF EAGLES group and took the opportunity to talk with the types written about above. Those I spoke with ranged from the harmless and naive to the full blown haters. But whatever the level, their underlying premise, their foundation is that every problem in the world from terrorism to toe jam is the fault of the USA. They believe we’ve brought nothing but harm to the world. You can’t use evidence or reason, they simply won’t listen. If you admit that yes the USA has made mistakes, it’s over they’ll never acknowledge in return that we’ve also done good.
Their end will be choking on their own blood from a terror attack or collaborating with the enemy.
They are beyond weird. Beyond creepy. They are just plain evil.
No. You do not need moonbat, conspiracy theories. From the 7th and 8th century onward, Muslims are simply being Muslims.
The funding for Islamic terror comes primarily from a combination of criminal enterprise (organized crime operations), diversion from so-called “charity” organizations, wealthy individuals (some government-linked) who support “global jihad”. Pakistan is a hornet’s nest of such activity, ans is a well-known training center for terrorists and terrorism in the name of Islam. Dig deeper and you’ll find Arab influence — mostly financial and spiritual…and all of this from supposed “allies” of the US. Hint: Countries like Iran and Syria may sponsor terrorism to a degree, but the catastrophic damage comes from the heavyweights in the Islamic world who are more likely to engage the west — Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, etc. They already have the trust of the west on the business front, and their people can move with less hassle throughout the US, EU, etc.
The concept of global jihad has existed for decades — Abu Nibal, PLO, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad, Jaamiya Islamiya, and countless other colorfully-named groups are just different faces of the same grenade. “al-Qaeda” (”The Base”) is not merely an organization, it’s the global jihad ideology itself. Each face has a slightly different set of priorities, a slightly different set of perspectives, but the ends are basically the same: the destruction of Israel, the destruction of “western” culture (the US is seen as the foremost and most powerful proponent and disseminator of this), the ascendence of radical, puritanical Islam as the dominant world ideology regardless of the means
the historic rivalry between muslims and christians
the crusades mindset
islam is now the new enemy replacing communism
islam is a global threat as expressed by the west?
will islam be conquered like communism ?
the west has murdered iraqis on a grand scale illegally ?
is this western peace? so hypocrisy ?
These terrorists do not deserve death. They deserve a brutal thrashing by putting them in a torture chamber and then tortured.
Only then will they stop taking innocent lives and a world will be a safe place to live in!
It is time we declare Pakistan a terrorist state.
They will not be able to take even an inch of kashmir from India.
Militancy is always a threat to peace, regardless of whether religious or political in motivation. Once the aims of a group of militants are achieved, another group with differing demands takes its place, and/or there is counter-revolution from the group(s) defeated by the militants. Communism, for example, fears counter-revolution (and often uses nationalism to reinforce its power against “foreign” ideas). Islamic militants seem to fear dilution of their power, dilution of their interpretation of Islam from foreign (read: western, non-Muslim) sources, whether intentional or not. Muslims I know do not support radical interpretations of the faith, or violence in the name of their religion. (I live in Singapore and my wife is from Malaysia; I routinely meet Malay and Indonesian Muslims on a daily basis in the course of work and neighborhood interaction).
You write of a “western” peace And what is the peace of the Islamic butchers Hussein? The peace of the grave? the peace of dhimmitude?
Western peace is Iraq, thriving, propspering and growing more peaceful by the day thanks to efforts of the US military and allies. More Iraqis died under Saddam then by the American military occupation and most of those deaths were by foreign terrorists from surrounding countries. Peace will come to the Middle East but it will come by way of people like Mark Turner and Muslims that forget the past and want a better life for themselves not thru murder and terror but thru peaceful coexistance.
But lets cut to the chaste Hussein, I want you to publically condemn ISLAMIC terrorists.
Won’t do it will you? And we know WHY.
Yeah all those jerks who were wanting peace then act like hooligans showing hos stupid they are
Free speech is a wonderful thing. Now the FBI know exactly who to watch.
IF YOUR SAPPY AND YOU KNOW IT KICK YOUR BUTT