Is Obama Really Christian?
Posted on November 27, 2008
We’ve all heard the preachings of his racist preacher of choice, but is Obama really full into the Christian teachings? Here is some deep thoughts for you from Barack!
Obama: There’s the belief, certainly in some quarters, that people haven’t embraced Jesus Christ as their personal savior that they’re going to hell.
Falsani: You don’t believe that?
Obama: I find it hard to believe that my God would consign four-fifths of the world to hell. I can’t imagine that my God would allow some little Hindu kid in India who never interacts with the Christian faith to somehow burn for all eternity. That’s just not part of my religious makeup.
Hat tip: Hot Air
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I see his point. I mean why would any person who has accepted Jesus Christ as his/her savior, who believed without doubt, that Christ’s gift to the world of forgiveness, his UNIQUE experience while mortal, has anything to do with other relegions.
Muslims, Hindus, Catholics, Christians, they all have exactly the same beliefs, undestanding of mans purpose for life.
Muslims kill everyone who reject Islam. Christians call those who reject Christ lost.
Same thing. Obama is an idiot.
Jesus said “I am the way, the truth and the life. No man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”
The thing that condemns people to hell is unbelief. Jesus willingly gave his life on the cross to redeem all mankind from sin. He rose to life on the third day to prove his victory over death and the devil. All believers have eternal life through Him alone.
Obama’s god might not “consign” unbelievers to hell, but his god doesn’t exist.
He is correct on this…..
12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law; 13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. 14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: 15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;) 16 In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.
Sorry, I have to agree with him there. It’s one of the things that made me become a non-believer in any religion.
When I joined a friend for Campus Crusades in college, they told me that if you didn’t accept Jesus into your heart you would go to hell. I asked about the upstanding, moral Aborigine that took care of and loved his family and his neighbors but had never heard of Jesus, would he also go to hell? Their reply was yes.
I decided then that that wasn’t the God for me. In the years since, I’ve also come to realize that religion is just a way to explain the uncomfortable or unknown or to have power and control over the masses.
There is no God.
Common sense: you should have searched for some wise counsel. You still can.. One who has not heard the gospel will be judged on their actions.God will do what is righteous((read Genesis 18:25) CS Lewis writes the one who rejects Christ when told about the gospel chooses their future and their will is done. God will not force Himself on them. The one who follows Christ says thy(God’s) will be done. The choices have consequences. Dont blame campus crusade for your current choice but praise God that you can reconsider, but your time to choose will run out, on your death, and then your spirit will live outside of the presence of God ,because you dont want to worship God, your choice, choose wisely.
I do not believe BO is a christian. Observing his arrogance, and haughty behavior is not that of a christian, among many others.
People of other faith are not doomed to go to hell, God’s Words states, that one is a christian in actions, and word. People are not bad because they muslms, hindus, and whatever else, until their behavior becomes unacceptable to God.
When Jesus returns, all of us are given another chance to live by the Word of God.
Obama is speaking out of his rear, not being a christian, he does not know what he is saying. He is a muslim in disguise. Read his books, in which he states “Should the wind be blowing against muslims, I will stand with them”! That for me is all I need to know.
Obama scares me to death his faith tells him everyone who doesnt believe like he does should be put to death.
BO is a muslim? so what? The idea is that whether
christian or muslim, each citizen is a citizen with equal rights and freedoms guaranteed by the Constitution. It is certainly out of the question to consciously attempt to deny someone his or her right or freedom simply on the basis of religion; neigther could skin colour or any such subjective consideration be a criterion for being and acceptance in our 21 century. continuing this discussion becomes a smear in the face of democracy and decent social relations.
Who cares? Religion got us George Bush.
Sure President-Elect Obama is correct. Who are we to judge? It is not for Obama to judge that hindu boy becuase I know it is written in the bible that we should not judge others. In his own divine wisdom the Lord will determine the future of that innocent hindu boy who may never had the privilege of knowing the Lord Jesus Christ due to the circumsatances of his birth and upbringing.
I think as true Christians we must pray for President-Elect Obama rather than finding unnecessary faults with him. Be that true Christian you profess to be.
When people accuse Obama of being a Muslim I usually point out that he probably isn’t. But I don’t think he’s a Christian, either.
He denies that Jesus is the only way to salvation. There are one hundred Bible passages teaches that He is the only way (not just John 14:6), so any authentic and partially educated Christian should hold that view.
Obama also mocks the Bible.
Obama is the most extreme pro-abortion Presidential candidate ever. I have a tough time reconciling that with Christianity.
In short, I’m not seeing a lot of good fruit here.
What Robert Smith said. I’m an atheist but that is the fundamental question of whether you are a Christian or not.
If you don’t believe that:
It’s a much simpler question to ask than if you believe in the Holy Trinity.
Plus that whole, “You Shall Have No Other Gods Before Me” thing.
This is what happens when lawyers become politicians - they think they found the loopholes that W.C. Fields was looking for.
Consequently, this is a question that everyone who claims to be a Christian should be able to easily answer.
Obama is of that mish-mash Oprahology that there are many paths to the ultimate entitlement program of Heaven. Christians of Convenience. There are alot of those Christians In Name Only but rarely do the masses exploit it so well.
No, he’s not a Christian. He attended, for 20 years, a “church” that preaches black liberation philosophy. That is little more than Marxism dressed up as Latinism (commonly called Catholicism) with an added racist twist. It is a “religion” that is only concerned with worldly things. It is hardly Christianity.
He, technically, *was* a Muslim at one point. He did attend Mosque at least once, which means he had to say the opening prayer. According to Muslims, that is all you have to do to be a Muslim. In his heart? Nah, probably never really a Muslim. But he isn’t a Christian, either.
the sinner,
Charles
As a Catholic, what makes a Christian a Christian is not what an individual did but rather what has been done to that individual. A person cannot simply by their own authority claim to be a Christian, it must be a reality that God has caused to be. John 6:44 No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him, and I will raise him to life on the last day. So the question is, does Obama have a Trinitarian Baptism? Baptism, as scripture says, is how God incorporates an individual into the koinonia, the universal fellowship of believers. That I don’t know especially given how flaky Rev. Write’s community is with the rest of their preaching of the Gospel. If we grant that Obama is a Christian, the question then is, is he a good Christian or a bad Christian? Thats easy, he’s a bad Christian as plenty of the things that he stands for and wishes to govern this nation by are against both Christian morality and even basic natural law.
In terms of Obama’s statement, sure being outside of Christianity does not automatically equate to spending eternity in hell, but where he is wrong is that he is implying that said individual will be saved. That simply is not true. It is practically very difficult to live a good life outside of Christianity – Socrates and Confucius knew this, and even Buddhism teaches that. Trying to live an authentically human life is difficult when one has to do it by their own works and without the grace of the Spirit. Now try and go beyond that and live in accord with the will of God whom you don’t know and inside of a culture that presents you with this darkened image of gods who are not exactly all together that moral.
But as Paul says in Romans 2:14, those outside will be judged with what they know and Christians will be judged by what has been given to them. Thus the wammy: hell is all the hotter for the Christian that windsup there, for those who have been given much, much will be expected.
So perhaps given the path of Obama’s life we should all take a moment to pray for him that he might actually live a Christian life (and become Christian if he isn’t already).
I’m with Patrick Lawrence on this one.
Oh, and the thing about *having* to “accept Christ in your heart . . . ” Patrick Lawrence is right. You are judged on what you do, based on why you do it. Unlike Western Christianity (made worse by the Reformation), salvation was never seen as a truly either/or situation. There was never a demarcation line. In fact, the NT is full of verses about some people getting a “greater reward” in Heaven. Thus, there is no one-size-fits-all salvation or damnation.
However, when one specifically rejects Christ, your punishment is greater as well. St. John Chyrsostomos’ homilies on the book of Romans talk about this extensively, and is a fantastic representation of the eternal life and judgment as it was, and is, viewed in the original Church.
the sinner,
Charles
Yes, isn’t the entire basis of being a Christian that you accept Jesus as your personal savior? If Obama is professing that individuals that have not been saved by Christ will still not go to hell, then what were they saved from?
From above:
“Muslims, Hindus, Catholics, Christians, they all have exactly the same beliefs, undestanding of mans purpose for life.”
News flash! Catholics are Christians - the original brand.
Of course not. No one in that racist, American hating church he attended for 23 years is a real Christian. Why do you think Farrakhn loves them so much?
“Who cares? Religion got us George Bush.”
Ummm… no. Religious gave us the U.S.A.
Regarding this article, I agree with what Obama said (even though I can’t stand the foolish man-child). Do you notice how many religions say that if you don’t believe in that one, you go to hell? Funny how that works, no?
Obama is not a Christian in any traditional sense. First off, Christians believe that Jesus Christ is God and therefore his statements are without error—God does not make errors. Because Obama, and many other pseudo Christians, find what Jesus had to say about salvation intolerable (that is, that Christ is the only way), they simply reject it. But that is not Christianity. Being a Christian implies actually believing what Christ said and what the apostles said.
It is perfectly okay to reject what Jesus and the apostles had to say. (Of course, there are eternal consequences for the rejection.) But it is not okay to call yourself a Christian when you reject many of the fundamental tenants of Christianity (i.e., the inerrancy of Scripture; the exclusivity of salvation through Christ; the literal, bodily resurrection of Christ; and the imminent return of Jesus Christ.)
Jesus was quite explicit:
John 14:6 Jesus told him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
The apostles were equally explicit:
Acts 4:12 There is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to people by which we must be saved.”
John 3:18 Anyone who believes in Him is not condemned, but anyone who does not believe is already condemned, because he has not believed in the name of the One and Only Son of God. 19 “This, then, is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved darkness rather than the light because their deeds were evil.
Condemnation in the Bible is typically understood as eternal damnation in hell. There is clearly a literal hell because Jesus Christ had much to say about it. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. It is a place where the fire is never quenched the worm never dies.
Here’s more:
John 3:36 The one who believes in the Son has eternal life, but the one who refuses to believe in the Son will not see life; instead, the wrath of God remains on him.
1 John 5:10 (The one who believes in the Son of God has the testimony in himself. The one who does not believe God has made Him a liar, because he has not believed in the testimony that God has given about His Son.) 11 And this is the testimony: God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son. 12 The one who has the Son has life. The one who doesn’t have the Son of God does not have life.
Obama thinks he is God.
Let’s roll.
Well, my friends, we will have to agree to disagree. But for the record: Conservative evangelical Christians (including the Southern Baptist Convention) are the largest Christian group in the United States according to Pew Research as of last year. It is the mainline denominations (Methodist, Episcopalians, Presbyterians, Congregationalists, etc.) that continue to hemorrhage members. Why? Because they don’t believe in biblical Jesus Christ any more. They are apostate churches like the one Obama belonged to.
Ster: I suspect you went to a church that focused on the humanity of Jesus Christ. That is what most apostate churches do; they are okay with Christ the man, but not Christ the God. Most Bible believing churches focus on the Deity of Christ.
exDemocrat: Your post was hilarious.
Is it true that barack obama will take away the crosses in the churches of america? my gramma heard that. Maybe barack obama will be the antichrist. im not sure. we should embrace ourselves because Jesus is coming!! and you know that we Christians shouldn’t be scared because The rapture is good for us we will leave our old and weary bodies and we will be in Christ’s arms we will be with him for eternity!!
i AM SO EXCITED!!!!
Patrick Lawrence: The passage that you have quoted is admittedly a difficult one, but most Christians do not interpret this passage as exculpatory for “moral” pagans, which is what Obama is basically saying when he talks about moral Hindus.
Paul is simply telling the Gentiles (i.e., pagans) who received his letter that they will be judged based on God’s Law which is written on their heart. Most societies agree that adultery, bearing false witness, stealing, murder, and covetousness are wrong. (Of course, a case could be made that America no longer believes these things are wrong!) Even the pagan would be pricked by a guilty conscience for doing the wrong thing. The pagan is a sinner just like the Jew, and the only remedy for sin is Jesus Christ—that is why he is the only way.
Romans 2:12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;
Paul is showing us that this includes Gentiles (i.e., pagans).
Later on in the letter, Paul will show the antidote for sin.
Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
It is a gift; it cannot be earned by a Christian; it cannot be earned by an American; and it cannot be earned by a Hindu. It can only be obtained by placing saving faith in Christ.
This is clearly the traditionally view of Protestant Christianity, which I believe is the biblical and correct view; I don’t pretend to know what the Catholic view is.
I can understand the mindset of an Obama and the other secularists. Why would Christ condemn a Muslim, Hindu, Jew or some other who didn’t follow his teachings. What abortionist, pedophile, jihaddie doesn’t rejoice in Obama’s statements.
After all in his book he states if push comes to shove “he stands with the Muslims.” A ture believer in Christ and his beliefs. Just like Kennedy, Pelosi, Kerry and all the other fundamentalist secularists. Oh yes as a further demonstration of his faith he attended Rev. Wright’s Nuremburg demonstration.
Guess I can understand Obama’s position all too well. I just hope I don’t wind up where he is going.
The real other question is also IM OBAMA A NATURAL BORN AMERICAN CITIZENS if he isnt then his election in illegal and he should be impeached
The question of whether Obama is a Christian or not is not a question of what his faith is, or not. It is entirely a question of “Can he be trusted?” When you make a public claim that something is a fundamental part of you makeup, it should be the truth. What he says is very much at odds with the Christian faith, therefore; he is either lying or just using the claim for policitcal gain. Either one shows a lack of character and should be of concern for all Americans.
Anybody who answers a question about faith with “my God” would not do that is practicing idolatry. He is not yours to mold and shape according to what you think is fair. If you don’t accept what He declares to be truth and invent your own “fair” god, you are an idolater.
Thank you, Jon, for saying so well the words that my mind cannot arrange. Jesus died for all, but not all will accept His lordship.
Jon:
Thanks for all your replies. You did a great job at defending your case in a well mannered way.
Obama is a Christian wannabe. He has rejected long held principles of Christianity and doesn’t have a clue what he is talking about. He sat in that place for 20 years, short of where he really wanted to be which was more close to standing outside every Sunday on the sidewalk. That place is far from Christianity and is also a Christian wannabe, which is why he chose that place each Sunday to begin with. Obama is going to help transform this nation into an Islamic nation during the next four years. AIG has already adapted Shariah Finance across the United States for the last few years. We are going to see it lead to Shariah Law next. Just watch.