We do have a way of changing the constitution. Perhaps you have heard of it. It’s called the amendment process. It’s also been in place for more than 200 years. I’m glad you now finally admit that there is nothing unconstitutional about the Patriot act you just want it changed because you feel it’s wrong. Sounds like you think the Patriot Act is unconstitutional so that must mean we need to change it somehow. Maybe someone else will come along and say you’re not an American and need to leave the country. Maybe in their opinion “independents” like you do not deserve to live here. Would that be okay with you?

I don’t know where you are from originally (America or elsewhere) but in this country we have laws. They have to follow the constitution. If not, then they are not valid laws. If the laws are just and the constitution is wrong (like allowing slavery at one time) then you amend the constitution (like the 14th amendment).

I feel that things written 200 years ago are not static and must change with the times.

Rape must be OK with you then? Murder? Theft? Laws against these things are more than 200 years old. Let’s “change with the times” man!

No one person guards the constitution. We citizens all have the duty to guard and protect our rights as enshrined in the constitution. As for the Patriot Act, again name one thing in it that is unconstitutional? You can’t because there isn’t anything. Just because you keep saying the Patriot Act is unconstitutional does not make it so. Please cite one thing in the Patriot Act that is unconstitutional? That’s all we’ve been asking for. You have also said that the right to privacy is enshrined in the constitution somewhere. Can you share with us where the right to privacy exists in the constitution?

Samir
I suggest you actually do a little studying on what exactly is in the constitution before you chastise the rest of us. Read the 4 pillars of our government more (Declaration of Independence, Federalist Papers, Constitution and BOR) and the Daily Kos and Huffington report less.

I’m just saying, you are not a legitimate guardian of the Constitution if you are defending things that usurp its power, like Patriot Act.

I agree with you about everything you said. Especially the part about how our Constitution and BOR and all the other rights enshrined therein do not apply to those who are not on American soil and not American citizens. Lets also keep in mind that those down in Cuba are enemy combatants in a declared war. These people have never been given our constitutional rights even when on American soil. We had German POWs housed in internment camps right here in America during WWII and no one even considered to give them constitutional rights. They were put in labor camps to help farmers out, forced labor.

Since you are a lover of the constitution and BOR I’m sure you will join with me in denouncing what this Pittsburgh counsel woman said that started this whole thread concerning the 2nd Amendment.

You again post on here about how the Patriot Act is unconstitutional. Yet you never once cite a specific reason why it’s unconstitutional. You are either an idiot who cannot comprehend what other people responding to you are saying. Or, you know what they are saying and you have preconceived notions which the truth does not conveniently fit into so you just choose to ignore all of the defenses of the Patriot act in this thread. I prefer to believe the latter. Which would make a Bush hating liberal, not an independent.

That being the case, you don’t have too much credibility unless you can actually put together an argument as to why the Patriot Act is unconstitutional. Just saying it, does not make it so.