Comments on: Supreme Court to Conference on Obama’s Citizenship: Write Now http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/11/20/supreme-court-to-conference-on-obamas-citizenship-write-now/ Beating Them With Their Own Sickle And Hammer Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:25:23 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.2 hourly 1 By: AdrianS http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/11/20/supreme-court-to-conference-on-obamas-citizenship-write-now/comment-page-1/#comment-108295 AdrianS Fri, 28 Nov 2008 16:26:57 +0000 http://www.stoptheaclu.com/?p=17012#comment-108295 "...if Obama dares to take the Presidential “Oath or Affirmation” of office, knowing that he is not “a natural born Citizen,” he will commit the crime of perjury or false swearing (see Article II, Section 1, Clause 7). For, being ineligible for “the Office of President, he cannot “faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States,” or even execute it at all, to any degree. Thus, his very act of taking the “Oath or Affirmation” will be a violation thereof! So, even if the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court himself looks the other way and administers the “Oath or Affirmation,” Obama will derive no authority whatsoever from it." Quote from: OBAMA MUST STAND UP NOW OR STEP DOWN By Dr. Edwin Vieira, Jr., Ph.D., J.D. http://www.newswithviews.com/Vieira/edwin84.htm SIGN THE PETITION TO FORCE BARACK OBAMA TO PROVE HIS NATURAL BORN CITIZENSHIP AS REQUIRED BY THE U.S. CONSTITUTION http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=81550 “…if Obama dares to take the Presidential “Oath or Affirmation” of office, knowing that he is not “a natural born Citizen,” he will commit the crime of perjury or false swearing (see Article II, Section 1, Clause 7). For, being ineligible for “the Office of President, he cannot “faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States,” or even execute it at all, to any degree. Thus, his very act of taking the “Oath or Affirmation” will be a violation thereof! So, even if the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court himself looks the other way and administers the “Oath or Affirmation,” Obama will derive no authority whatsoever from it.”

Quote from:
OBAMA MUST STAND UP NOW OR STEP DOWN
By Dr. Edwin Vieira, Jr., Ph.D., J.D.

http://www.newswithviews.com/Vieira/edwin84.htm

SIGN THE PETITION TO FORCE BARACK OBAMA TO PROVE HIS NATURAL BORN CITIZENSHIP
AS REQUIRED BY THE U.S. CONSTITUTION
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=81550

]]> By: Lunatic Fringe « Sly Capital http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/11/20/supreme-court-to-conference-on-obamas-citizenship-write-now/comment-page-1/#comment-108266 Lunatic Fringe « Sly Capital Fri, 28 Nov 2008 00:28:48 +0000 http://www.stoptheaclu.com/?p=17012#comment-108266 [...] trigger is this, the US Supreme Court will hold a conference on Barack Obama’s [...] [...] trigger is this, the US Supreme Court will hold a conference on Barack Obama’s [...]

]]> By: BobRoberts http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/11/20/supreme-court-to-conference-on-obamas-citizenship-write-now/comment-page-1/#comment-108123 BobRoberts Wed, 26 Nov 2008 20:45:49 +0000 http://www.stoptheaclu.com/?p=17012#comment-108123 His mother was a citizen. He was born in Hawaii. He was therefore born AS a citizen, therefore a natural-born citizen of the U.S. I guess that to ask how many times this needs to be proven misses the point. To the people here, there is no proof possible. None. I suggest that people here raging against Obama's citizenship do something useful with their lives. His mother was a citizen. He was born in Hawaii. He was therefore born AS a citizen, therefore a natural-born citizen of the U.S.

I guess that to ask how many times this needs to be proven misses the point. To the people here, there is no proof possible. None.

I suggest that people here raging against Obama’s citizenship do something useful with their lives.

]]> By: Joe Horn http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/11/20/supreme-court-to-conference-on-obamas-citizenship-write-now/comment-page-1/#comment-108116 Joe Horn Wed, 26 Nov 2008 19:58:47 +0000 http://www.stoptheaclu.com/?p=17012#comment-108116 If you read the pleadings in the Donofrio case, it has nothing to do with proving he is an American Citizen by providing a Certificate of Live Birth from Hawaii. (By the way he has shown a Certification of Live Birth which is not the same as Certificate of Live Birth. You could be born in another country and still have the birth reginstered in Hawaii depending on the information his Mother gave to the State Officials at the time. No, I don't believe that his mother intended to pull a fast one planning on Obama becoming President one day. It is concievalbe, however unlikely, that if born elsewhere she wanted his birth registered in the state where she was living so that he would get citizenship in the US with little hassle. Not quite the same as being a natural born citizen however.) Even with the Grandmother saying she was present at his birth in Kenya, the discrepencies in which hospital he was born in, or the Ambassador from Kenya saying there is a marker marking his place of birth in Kenya. It is very likely the birth certificate will state he was born in Hawaii. I just hope it says it was in a hospital with doctors and nurses as witnesses and not a reported home birth, or far worse, if it actually does say he was born in Kenya. In case of the home birth there will always be questions, but what can do but get the time machine you propose. This does not even deal with the ramifications of him being adopted and becoming a citizen of Indonesia, or how he was able to travel to Pakistan in 1980-1981, or why he will not release his school records. The Donofrio case is different because it position is that even if he is born in America, because his father was born in Kenya, which a part of the shrinking British Empire, under English Law, Obama like the founding fathers would have been born a subject of the English Crown, eventhough he would have also be a United States Citizen. It is the duality of the citenship that creates the problem. The founding fathers in the constitution said anyone that is a natural born citizen of the United States or a Citizen at the adoption of the Constitution could be President. They in essence grandfathered themselves in because they realized that they were also subjects of the crown at birth. Obama cannot be grandfathered in because he was not born until 1961, ergo he is barred from being President of the United States. The logic is direct than the other cases, it is clear and direct. There is even a case at the circuit court level US vs. Rhodes that deals with the question of natural born citizens. If the Supreme Court hears the case, and I almost wish they wouldn't because I'm not sure if the country can handle the stress it will create right now with everything else going on, I do not think it unlikely that he will be barred from holding the office. We are however not at that stage. The Supreme Court could do what they did with the Japaneese interment case during the war. Ignore it until it goes away. If you read the pleadings in the Donofrio case, it has nothing to do with proving he is an American Citizen by providing a Certificate of Live Birth from Hawaii. (By the way he has shown a Certification of Live Birth which is not the same as Certificate of Live Birth. You could be born in another country and still have the birth reginstered in Hawaii depending on the information his Mother gave to the State Officials at the time. No, I don’t believe that his mother intended to pull a fast one planning on Obama becoming President one day. It is concievalbe, however unlikely, that if born elsewhere she wanted his birth registered in the state where she was living so that he would get citizenship in the US with little hassle. Not quite the same as being a natural born citizen however.) Even with the Grandmother saying she was present at his birth in Kenya, the discrepencies in which hospital he was born in, or the Ambassador from Kenya saying there is a marker marking his place of birth in Kenya. It is very likely the birth certificate will state he was born in Hawaii. I just hope it says it was in a hospital with doctors and nurses as witnesses and not a reported home birth, or far worse, if it actually does say he was born in Kenya. In case of the home birth there will always be questions, but what can do but get the time machine you propose. This does not even deal with the ramifications of him being adopted and becoming a citizen of Indonesia, or how he was able to travel to Pakistan in 1980-1981, or why he will not release his school records.

The Donofrio case is different because it position is that even if he is born in America, because his father was born in Kenya, which a part of the shrinking British Empire, under English Law, Obama like the founding fathers would have been born a subject of the English Crown, eventhough he would have also be a United States Citizen. It is the duality of the citenship that creates the problem. The founding fathers in the constitution said anyone that is a natural born citizen of the United States or a Citizen at the adoption of the Constitution could be President. They in essence grandfathered themselves in because they realized that they were also subjects of the crown at birth. Obama cannot be grandfathered in because he was not born until 1961, ergo he is barred from being President of the United States. The logic is direct than the other cases, it is clear and direct. There is even a case at the circuit court level US vs. Rhodes that deals with the question of natural born citizens. If the Supreme Court hears the case, and I almost wish they wouldn’t because I’m not sure if the country can handle the stress it will create right now with everything else going on, I do not think it unlikely that he will be barred from holding the office. We are however not at that stage. The Supreme Court could do what they did with the Japaneese interment case during the war. Ignore it until it goes away.

]]> By: BobRoberts http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/11/20/supreme-court-to-conference-on-obamas-citizenship-write-now/comment-page-1/#comment-108104 BobRoberts Wed, 26 Nov 2008 18:21:52 +0000 http://www.stoptheaclu.com/?p=17012#comment-108104 Obama has been proven to be a U.S. citizen (natural born) again and again, but you won't accept it. Nothing short of a time machine placing you in the hospital room at the moment of his birth will prove it to you. But just in case someone who is not insane and can use their brains is reading this, here is the proof: http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html Obama has been proven to be a U.S. citizen (natural born) again and again, but you won’t accept it. Nothing short of a time machine placing you in the hospital room at the moment of his birth will prove it to you.

But just in case someone who is not insane and can use their brains is reading this, here is the proof: http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

]]> By: edeldoug http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/11/20/supreme-court-to-conference-on-obamas-citizenship-write-now/comment-page-1/#comment-107929 edeldoug Tue, 25 Nov 2008 16:00:31 +0000 http://www.stoptheaclu.com/?p=17012#comment-107929 Sad to say, the COLB that Obama posted could well be a genuine (not forged) document… however it still would not prove "Natural Born Citizenship". He could have been born in Kenya and still obtain this document legitimately! Obama has put forth only a "Certification of live birth", which is NOT A Birth Certificate! After months and months of unrequited requests, the Obama campaign did finally present a document which they claimed validated his eligibility (per the Constitution of the Unted States, Article II, Section I) as a "Natural born citizen" to have his name on the ballot in contention for the office of the President of the United States of America. However, what the Obama campaign supplied was not, in fact, a "birth certificate". What they supplied was actually a "Certificate of Live Birth." There is a major difference between a "birth certificate" and a "Certificate of Live Birth." Aside from the level of detail differentiating the documents (hospital of record, doctor, height, weight, etc) - in the state of Hawaii, one authenticates natural born citizenship, and the other doesn't. This part is important; - it has nothing to do with tin foil hats. Per the State of Hawaii's Department of Health, "Amended certificates of birth may be prepared and filed with the Department of Health, as provided by law, for 1) a person born in Hawaii who already has a birth certificate filed with the Department of Health or 2) a person born in a foreign country." (For citation purposes, please feel free to visit their site: http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/vital-records/index.html ). The "Certificate of Live Birth" provided by Obama, is in fact, a derivative of the "Amended certificates of birth" they site. Why is that important? Because of that second clause in the above citation. While you may show citizenship via such a document, you do not necessarily prove "natural born" citizenship. "Natural born citizenship" is what is required to be eligible to be considered for the Presidency, per the United States Constitution. The form Obama posted wouldn't even be acceptable to make an application in Hawaii's Home Lands Program! From: http://hawaii.gov/dhhl/applicants/appforms/applyhhl In order to process your application, DHHL utilizes information that is found only on the original Certificate of Live Birth, which is either black or green. This is a more complete record of your birth than the Certification of Live Birth (a computer-generated printout). Submitting the original Certificate of Live Birth will save you time and money since the computer-generated Certification requires additional verification by DHHL. What Obama has posted IS NOT A BIRTH CERTIFICATE! There is a further complication, however. His subsequent adoption by Lolo Soetoro and resultant INDONESIAN citizenship is a bigger fly in his ointment. (I laugh whenever reference is made to "citizen of the WORLD'... Obama truly is a WORLD CITIZEN!) Indonesia, at the time Obama lived there and was deemed an Indonesian citizen, did not recognize dual citizenship, and neither did the US recognize dual citizenship with Indonesia. Thus, whether he held dual citizenship with the US and Kenya, whether he was born in the US or Kenya, or even - as some suggest - CANADA, is irrelevant as the ONLY legitimate citizenship he held once his adopted father moved him to Indonesia was Indonesian! His US Citizenship would be forfeit! http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/09/05/breaking-photo-documents-barry-soetoro-indonesian/ Whether and when Barry Soetoro/Barack Obama might have regained US Citizenship thereafter, it would be thru NATURALIZATION and that is SPECIFICALLY and EXPRESSLY ineligible to serve as President of the United States under Title II. (Could this be why he uses the politically risky name Barack Hussein Obama instead of the more innocuous "Barry Soetoro"? Perhaps Barry Soetoro is STILL an Indonesian citizen? Perhaps there are naturalization papers in the name of Barry Soetoro? I'm just asking...) Doug Edelman http://starboard.blogtownhall.com Sad to say, the COLB that Obama posted could well be a genuine (not forged) document… however it still would not prove “Natural Born Citizenship”. He could have been born in Kenya and still obtain this document legitimately!

Obama has put forth only a “Certification of live birth”, which is NOT A Birth Certificate!

After months and months of unrequited requests, the Obama campaign did finally present a document which they claimed validated his eligibility (per the Constitution of the Unted States, Article II, Section I) as a “Natural born citizen” to have his name on the ballot in contention for the office of the President of the United States of America.

However, what the Obama campaign supplied was not, in fact, a “birth certificate”. What they supplied was actually a “Certificate of Live Birth.” There is a major difference between a “birth certificate” and a “Certificate of Live Birth.”

Aside from the level of detail differentiating the documents (hospital of record, doctor, height, weight, etc) – in the state of Hawaii, one authenticates natural born citizenship, and the other doesn’t. This part is important; – it has nothing to do with tin foil hats.

Per the State of Hawaii’s Department of Health, “Amended certificates of birth may be prepared and filed with the Department of Health, as provided by law, for 1) a person born in Hawaii who already has a birth certificate filed with the Department of Health or 2) a person born in a foreign country.” (For citation purposes, please feel free to visit their site: http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/vital-records/index.html ).

The “Certificate of Live Birth” provided by Obama, is in fact, a derivative of the “Amended certificates of birth” they site. Why is that important? Because of that second clause in the above citation. While you may show citizenship via such a document, you do not necessarily prove “natural born” citizenship. “Natural born citizenship” is what is required to be eligible to be considered for the Presidency, per the United States Constitution.

The form Obama posted wouldn’t even be acceptable to make an application in Hawaii’s Home Lands Program!

From: http://hawaii.gov/dhhl/applicants/appforms/applyhhl

In order to process your application, DHHL utilizes information that is found only on the original Certificate of Live Birth, which is either black or green. This is a more complete record of your birth than the Certification of Live Birth (a computer-generated printout). Submitting the original Certificate of Live Birth will save you time and money since the computer-generated Certification requires additional verification by DHHL.

What Obama has posted IS NOT A BIRTH CERTIFICATE!

There is a further complication, however. His subsequent adoption by Lolo Soetoro and resultant INDONESIAN citizenship is a bigger fly in his ointment. (I laugh whenever reference is made to “citizen of the WORLD’… Obama truly is a WORLD CITIZEN!)

Indonesia, at the time Obama lived there and was deemed an Indonesian citizen, did not recognize dual citizenship, and neither did the US recognize dual citizenship with Indonesia. Thus, whether he held dual citizenship with the US and Kenya, whether he was born in the US or Kenya, or even – as some suggest – CANADA, is irrelevant as the ONLY legitimate citizenship he held once his adopted father moved him to Indonesia was Indonesian! His US Citizenship would be forfeit!

http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/09/05/breaking-photo-documents-barry-soetoro-indonesian/

Whether and when Barry Soetoro/Barack Obama might have regained US Citizenship thereafter, it would be thru NATURALIZATION and that is SPECIFICALLY and EXPRESSLY ineligible to serve as President of the United States under Title II. (Could this be why he uses the politically risky name Barack Hussein Obama instead of the more innocuous “Barry Soetoro”? Perhaps Barry Soetoro is STILL an Indonesian citizen? Perhaps there are naturalization papers in the name of Barry Soetoro? I’m just asking…)

Doug Edelman

http://starboard.blogtownhall.com

]]> By: psychlite http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/11/20/supreme-court-to-conference-on-obamas-citizenship-write-now/comment-page-1/#comment-107880 psychlite Mon, 24 Nov 2008 21:20:22 +0000 http://www.stoptheaclu.com/?p=17012#comment-107880 Criminal defense attorneys advise their clients to say nothing, not a word, since the Constitution's 5th amendment shields one from self-incrimination or being a witness against oneself. American's Charlatan and street jive talking hustler isn't saying a word about his birth place and birth certificate and why should he? The Havard Law School graduate and "Constitutional Scholar" and "purported "president-elect's" future is criminal prosecution for massive election and fund raising fraud of an unprecedented scope. Criminal defense attorneys advise their clients to say nothing, not a word, since the Constitution’s 5th amendment shields one from self-incrimination or being a witness against oneself.

American’s Charlatan and street jive talking hustler isn’t saying a word about his birth place and birth certificate and why should he? The Havard Law School graduate and “Constitutional Scholar” and “purported “president-elect’s” future is criminal prosecution for massive election and fund raising fraud of an unprecedented scope.

]]> By: Don maccank http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/11/20/supreme-court-to-conference-on-obamas-citizenship-write-now/comment-page-1/#comment-107807 Don maccank Sun, 23 Nov 2008 22:18:29 +0000 http://www.stoptheaclu.com/?p=17012#comment-107807 FOI request for Obama's birth certificate --found on the internet at www.DailyJeff.com-has all 50 SOS emails-1 stop emailing! FOI REQUEST TO ALL SOS FOR OBAMA'S BIRTH CERTIFICATE We need to find out what the SOS of the various States know about Obama's birth certificate and qualifications to be president. If you have time, please send/fax/email the following FOI (freedom of information letter) to some or all of the SOS bureau of elections. After you get a response please post on www.obamacrimes.com, www.freerepublic.com, www.peoplespassions.org, http://americamustknow.com,www.rallycongress.com. 1. The address , fax number and email address for the Bureau of elections for the states are at www.eac.gov. 2. I like the faxes because they will respond quicker to them. Print off your generic FOI request and past/tape the next name over the top and fax it off. See emails listed below for all 50 SOS.Cut and paste to send all 50 at one time. Sit back and wait for answers. November 21, 2008 TO: BUREAU OF ELECTIONS Bureau of Elections, California 1500 11th St, 5th Floor FAX: 916-653-5634 Sacramento, CA 95814 Email: elections@sos.ca.gov ATTN: Freedom of Information Officer REF: Freedom of Information Act Request/Privacy Act/ Open Meeting Act, Common Law This is a request under the Freedom of Information Act. Please send the following documents for examining and photocopying: 1. Documents that show that Barack Obama is qualified to be President of the United States , including but not limited to: a. Original birth certificate b. Proof that he is a natural born United States citizen c. Proof that he was born in Kenya AS you know , the FOIA provides that if a portions of a document are exempt from release, the remainder must be segregated and disclosed. Therefore, I would like to examine all nonexempt portions of the records that I requested and I ask that you justify and deletions by citing specific exemptions of the FOIA This is a continuing request into the future for 6 months. If this is not the proper department, please forward to the Election Bureau/SOS. I promise to pay reasonable search and duplication fees in connection with this request. (Note: The FOIA permit some fee reduction or waivers). Please notify me if the charges will exceed ($20.00), so that I can decide whether to authorize a higher amount. Thank you for your assistance, I look forward to receiving your reply within five business days, as required by law. Sincerely, Robert Johnson 123 Main St Anywhere , CA Cc: Clerk of the US Supreme Court One First Street N.E. Washington, DC 20543 FAX: (209) 479-3021 WARNING Should any person try to cover up this request or documents herein, BE YOU HEREBY PUT ON NOTICE: You may be indicted under USC Title 18 Sec. 3. 4, 2381, 2382, 2383, and 2384. Also, 4 U.S.C. & 101, federal law requires all state employees and officers take an oath of office and records kept of such administered oath. Jeannie.price@sos.alabama.gov,governor@alaska.gov,governorsoffice@asg-gov.net, sosadmin@azsos.gov,sos@sosmail.state.ar.us,constituentaffairs@sos.ca.gov, secretary@state.co.us ,susan.bysiewicz@po.state.ct.us ,lorilee.harrison@state.de.us , Stephanie.scott@dc.gov,secretaryofstate@dos.state.fl.us,sosweb@sos.state.ga.us, elections@aloha.net,sosinfo@sos.idaho.gov,JWhite@ilos.net, constituentservices@sos.in.gov,sos@sos.state.ia.us,kssos@kssos.org,sos.secretary@ky.gov, bobby.jindal@la.gov,sos.office@maine.gov,bmorris@sos.state.md.us, agoweb@state.ma.us,secretary@michigan.gov,secretary.state@state.mn.us, administrator@sos.state.ms.us,sosmain@sos.mo.gov,sos@mt.gov,receptionist@sos.ne.gov, sosmail@sos.nv.gov,elections@sos.state.nh.us,feedback@sos.state.nj.us, nmsos@state.nm.us,info@dos.state.ny.us,emarshal@sosnc.com,sos@nd.gov, tworley@sos.state.oh.us,governor@gov.state.ok.us,Oregon.sos@state.or.us, pcortes@state.pa.us,correo@fortaleza.gobierno.pr,comments@sec.state.ri.us, rdaggerhart@sos.sc.gov,sdsos@state.sd.us,phil.bredesen@state.tn.us, secretary@sos.state.tx.us,mshurtleff@utah.gov,dmarkowitz@sec.state.vt.us, justice@usvi.org,soc@governor.virginia.gov,mail@secstate.wa.gov, wvsos@wvsos.com,wigov@gov.state.wi.us,secofstate@state.wy.us, FOI request for Obama’s birth certificate –found on the internet at http://www.DailyJeff.com-has all 50 SOS emails-1 stop emailing!

FOI REQUEST TO ALL SOS FOR OBAMA’S BIRTH CERTIFICATE
We need to find out what the SOS of the various States know about Obama’s birth certificate and qualifications to be president. If you have time, please send/fax/email the following FOI (freedom of information letter) to some or all of the SOS bureau of elections. After you get a response please post on http://www.obamacrimes.com, http://www.freerepublic.com, http://www.peoplespassions.org, http://americamustknow.com,www.rallycongress.com.
1. The address , fax number and email address for the Bureau of elections for the states are at http://www.eac.gov.
2. I like the faxes because they will respond quicker to them. Print off your generic FOI request and past/tape the next name over the top and fax it off. See emails listed below for all 50 SOS.Cut and paste to send all 50 at one time. Sit back and wait for answers.

November 21, 2008
TO: BUREAU OF ELECTIONS
Bureau of Elections, California
1500 11th St, 5th Floor FAX: 916-653-5634
Sacramento, CA 95814 Email: elections@sos.ca.gov

ATTN: Freedom of Information Officer
REF: Freedom of Information Act Request/Privacy Act/ Open Meeting Act, Common Law
This is a request under the Freedom of Information Act. Please send the following documents for examining and photocopying:
1. Documents that show that Barack Obama is qualified to be President of the United States , including but not limited to:
a. Original birth certificate
b. Proof that he is a natural born United States citizen
c. Proof that he was born in Kenya
AS you know , the FOIA provides that if a portions of a document are exempt from release, the remainder must be segregated and disclosed. Therefore, I would like to examine all nonexempt portions of the records that I requested and I ask that you justify and deletions by citing specific exemptions of the FOIA
This is a continuing request into the future for 6 months.
If this is not the proper department, please forward to the Election Bureau/SOS.
I promise to pay reasonable search and duplication fees in connection with this request. (Note: The FOIA permit some fee reduction or waivers).
Please notify me if the charges will exceed ($20.00), so that I can decide whether to authorize a higher amount.
Thank you for your assistance, I look forward to receiving your reply within five business days, as required by law.

Sincerely,
Robert Johnson
123 Main St
Anywhere , CA

Cc: Clerk of the US Supreme Court
One First Street N.E.
Washington, DC 20543
FAX: (209) 479-3021

WARNING
Should any person try to cover up this request or documents herein, BE YOU HEREBY PUT ON NOTICE: You may be indicted under USC Title 18 Sec. 3. 4, 2381, 2382, 2383, and 2384. Also, 4 U.S.C. & 101, federal law requires all state employees and officers take an oath of office and records kept of such administered oath.
Jeannie.price@sos.alabama.gov,governor@alaska.gov,governorsoffice@asg-gov.net,
sosadmin@azsos.gov,sos@sosmail.state.ar.us,constituentaffairs@sos.ca.gov,
secretary@state.co.us ,susan.bysiewicz@po.state.ct.us ,lorilee.harrison@state.de.us ,
Stephanie.scott@dc.gov,secretaryofstate@dos.state.fl.us,sosweb@sos.state.ga.us,
elections@aloha.net,sosinfo@sos.idaho.gov,JWhite@ilos.net,
constituentservices@sos.in.gov,sos@sos.state.ia.us,kssos@kssos.org,sos.secretary@ky.gov,
bobby.jindal@la.gov,sos.office@maine.gov,bmorris@sos.state.md.us,
agoweb@state.ma.us,secretary@michigan.gov,secretary.state@state.mn.us,
administrator@sos.state.ms.us,sosmain@sos.mo.gov,sos@mt.gov,receptionist@sos.ne.gov,
sosmail@sos.nv.gov,elections@sos.state.nh.us,feedback@sos.state.nj.us,
nmsos@state.nm.us,info@dos.state.ny.us,emarshal@sosnc.com,sos@nd.gov,
tworley@sos.state.oh.us,governor@gov.state.ok.us,Oregon.sos@state.or.us,
pcortes@state.pa.us,correo@fortaleza.gobierno.pr,comments@sec.state.ri.us,
rdaggerhart@sos.sc.gov,sdsos@state.sd.us,phil.bredesen@state.tn.us,
secretary@sos.state.tx.us,mshurtleff@utah.gov,dmarkowitz@sec.state.vt.us,
justice@usvi.org,soc@governor.virginia.gov,mail@secstate.wa.gov,
wvsos@wvsos.com,wigov@gov.state.wi.us,secofstate@state.wy.us,

]]> By: Gordon Stoa http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/11/20/supreme-court-to-conference-on-obamas-citizenship-write-now/comment-page-1/#comment-107777 Gordon Stoa Sun, 23 Nov 2008 16:15:37 +0000 http://www.stoptheaclu.com/?p=17012#comment-107777 Either he is or he isn't pretty clear to me. The supreme court must rule on the law. ONE MUST SHOW PROOF OF CITIZENSHIP TO BE PRESIDENT. Either he is or he isn’t pretty clear to me. The supreme court must rule on the law.

ONE MUST SHOW PROOF OF CITIZENSHIP TO BE PRESIDENT.

]]> By: TRS http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/11/20/supreme-court-to-conference-on-obamas-citizenship-write-now/comment-page-1/#comment-107732 TRS Sun, 23 Nov 2008 01:43:18 +0000 http://www.stoptheaclu.com/?p=17012#comment-107732 Assuming it is proven that Obama's father was already married to a Kenyan at the time he married Obama's mother in Hawaii, the Hawaiian marriage would be "void ab initio" and not merely voidable at the election of one of the parties. The Hawaiian marriage was invalid from the onset. Under applicable law(s) during 1961, a child born out-of-wedlock in a foreign country to an American citizen mother and an alien father gains United States' citizenship at birth if the mother had been physically present in the United states for a continuous period of one year prior to the child's birth. Accordingly, the "original" birth certificate and birth country issues are legally moot points. If Obama's attorneys can provide evidence that Obama's Kenyan father was already married at the time of his marriage to Obama's pregnant mother, President-elect Obama will be President Obama come January. Assuming it is proven that Obama’s father was already married to a Kenyan at the time he married Obama’s mother in Hawaii, the Hawaiian marriage would be “void ab initio” and not merely voidable at the election of one of the parties. The Hawaiian marriage was invalid from the onset. Under applicable law(s) during 1961, a child born out-of-wedlock in a foreign country to an American citizen mother and an alien father gains United States’ citizenship at birth if the mother had been physically present in the United states for a continuous period of one year prior to the child’s birth. Accordingly, the “original” birth certificate and birth country issues are legally moot points. If Obama’s attorneys can provide evidence that Obama’s Kenyan father was already married at the time of his marriage to Obama’s pregnant mother, President-elect Obama will be President Obama come January.

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