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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/10/15/joe-the-plumber/comment-page-1/#comment-101778</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 04:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel sorry for Joe. Obama came to his aria and tried to earn some points off him and screwed up big time. 
Now everyone&#039;s sh*tin on Joe? 
Obama is the one who screwed up why pick on Joe? 
I&#039;m sorry your Messiah turned out to be just a man and made a mistake. Get over it already and leave Joe alone.
By the way I&#039;m from Canada were the socialists like Obama have destroyed the middle class with over taxation. Our medical system sucks and lets you die unless your very rich and can buy your way to the front of the line or on welfair and let the goverment buy your way to the front. Don&#039;t let the socialists like Obama destroy your country like they did ours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel sorry for Joe. Obama came to his aria and tried to earn some points off him and screwed up big time.<br />
Now everyone&#8217;s sh*tin on Joe?<br />
Obama is the one who screwed up why pick on Joe?<br />
I&#8217;m sorry your Messiah turned out to be just a man and made a mistake. Get over it already and leave Joe alone.<br />
By the way I&#8217;m from Canada were the socialists like Obama have destroyed the middle class with over taxation. Our medical system sucks and lets you die unless your very rich and can buy your way to the front of the line or on welfair and let the goverment buy your way to the front. Don&#8217;t let the socialists like Obama destroy your country like they did ours.</p>
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		<title>By: Moves Hands Like Clouds</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moves Hands Like Clouds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 04:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carly,

I give you kudos on your name-calling and invective. I do wonder though about your line of thinking. Having a tax lien from the IRS does not indicate that Joe the Plumber has no savings. Also, if Joe bought a plumbing business that was bringing in $250K per year chances are he would by it over time in a deal arranged with the owner/seller.  This gives the seller a guaranteed cash flow for many years and allows individuals who don&#039;t happen to have $250K cash laying around to buy into businesses like this.  Medical and dental practices are sold like this quite frequently, so why not plumbing businesses, house cleaning businesses, etc.

Careful, your ignorance is showing. My guess is this is because you&#039;ve never held a real job or run a business on your own and are probably still living with Mom and Dad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carly,</p>
<p>I give you kudos on your name-calling and invective. I do wonder though about your line of thinking. Having a tax lien from the IRS does not indicate that Joe the Plumber has no savings. Also, if Joe bought a plumbing business that was bringing in $250K per year chances are he would by it over time in a deal arranged with the owner/seller.  This gives the seller a guaranteed cash flow for many years and allows individuals who don&#8217;t happen to have $250K cash laying around to buy into businesses like this.  Medical and dental practices are sold like this quite frequently, so why not plumbing businesses, house cleaning businesses, etc.</p>
<p>Careful, your ignorance is showing. My guess is this is because you&#8217;ve never held a real job or run a business on your own and are probably still living with Mom and Dad.</p>
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		<title>By: Carly Corday</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carly Corday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 18:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe &quot;the Plumber&quot; is not a licensed plumber, is not trained to plumb, is not thinking of to buying a business that might earn &quot;280,000 a year&quot; (the business he referred to was already sold), has never come close to earning that $250,000 a year, and has not been &quot;saving his hard-earned money most of his life&quot; -- he is in fact in debt to the IRS for...unpaid taxes.

So where is the ANAL PROBE by CNN and the rest of them bringing this glaring list of FACTS to LIGHT to inform the voters?!?

You are the media darling, Mr. Joe Dubya Plumber. What does that finally tell us ALL about not just Faux News, but the whole corporate enslaved media???

Where is the rectal exam this LIAR would be getting if he were stumping for Obama/Biden, instead of Crash McNasty and Pro-War Barbie?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe &#8220;the Plumber&#8221; is not a licensed plumber, is not trained to plumb, is not thinking of to buying a business that might earn &#8220;280,000 a year&#8221; (the business he referred to was already sold), has never come close to earning that $250,000 a year, and has not been &#8220;saving his hard-earned money most of his life&#8221; &#8212; he is in fact in debt to the IRS for&#8230;unpaid taxes.</p>
<p>So where is the ANAL PROBE by CNN and the rest of them bringing this glaring list of FACTS to LIGHT to inform the voters?!?</p>
<p>You are the media darling, Mr. Joe Dubya Plumber. What does that finally tell us ALL about not just Faux News, but the whole corporate enslaved media???</p>
<p>Where is the rectal exam this LIAR would be getting if he were stumping for Obama/Biden, instead of Crash McNasty and Pro-War Barbie?</p>
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		<title>By: don johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>don johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 05:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please, Please, do half the investigation on Joe the Plumber on Obama.  We&#039;ve seen nothing in the media except soft balls thrown at BHO.  Lets get some fair and balanced reporting.

The lesson here with Joe the Plumber is, if Obama comes to your house when your hanging out with your kids and asks you questions, don;t go against the party line, or the brown shirts are going to come and snuff you out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please, Please, do half the investigation on Joe the Plumber on Obama.  We&#8217;ve seen nothing in the media except soft balls thrown at BHO.  Lets get some fair and balanced reporting.</p>
<p>The lesson here with Joe the Plumber is, if Obama comes to your house when your hanging out with your kids and asks you questions, don;t go against the party line, or the brown shirts are going to come and snuff you out.</p>
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		<title>By: Ariston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ariston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 05:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sick and tired of people asking for the government to take care of them!!  Get off your duff and do something!!  Don&#039;t expect anyone but yourself to take of you!!  
Sheeesh !!!  Have some self-respect !!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sick and tired of people asking for the government to take care of them!!  Get off your duff and do something!!  Don&#8217;t expect anyone but yourself to take of you!!<br />
Sheeesh !!!  Have some self-respect !!</p>
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		<title>By: Debate Reax: Closing the Sale… Or Not. : The Conservative Reader</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debate Reax: Closing the Sale… Or Not. : The Conservative Reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 04:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 21:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ed,

Yeah, the Democrats are the only ones that are smearing somebody.  McCain is has done no smearing, right?  Nobody ever attacks Obama or anyone associated with him, right?

And apparently old Joe has never heard of progressive taxes.  This guy pisses me off.  Heaven forbid that HE should pay 3% more than people earning under 100,000.

And Alan, I applaud that you are working your [edited] off to give your kids an education.  Denise is wrong to suggest that you&#039;re doing something wrong by taking care of your kids, and giving them successful lives.

But don&#039;t you think that the people that can&#039;t support their kids, the ones that can&#039;t send their kids to college need a break?  If you&#039;re pulling down $250,000 and struggling to put two kids through school, then something is going on.  Maybe try a state school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed,</p>
<p>Yeah, the Democrats are the only ones that are smearing somebody.  McCain is has done no smearing, right?  Nobody ever attacks Obama or anyone associated with him, right?</p>
<p>And apparently old Joe has never heard of progressive taxes.  This guy pisses me off.  Heaven forbid that HE should pay 3% more than people earning under 100,000.</p>
<p>And Alan, I applaud that you are working your [edited] off to give your kids an education.  Denise is wrong to suggest that you&#8217;re doing something wrong by taking care of your kids, and giving them successful lives.</p>
<p>But don&#8217;t you think that the people that can&#8217;t support their kids, the ones that can&#8217;t send their kids to college need a break?  If you&#8217;re pulling down $250,000 and struggling to put two kids through school, then something is going on.  Maybe try a state school.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 19:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here they come -- the Tonton Macoutes of the Left -- it&#039;s the &quot;Smear the Republican&quot; brigade, ready to crank up their personal destruction machine once again and wreck the life of yet another American.

Republicans take note -- this is your future -- Republicans Who Are Not Perfect Saints cannot and will not be allowed have public opinions without being destroyed by the intolerant jackbooted Leftwing Thought Police.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here they come &#8212; the Tonton Macoutes of the Left &#8212; it&#8217;s the &#8220;Smear the Republican&#8221; brigade, ready to crank up their personal destruction machine once again and wreck the life of yet another American.</p>
<p>Republicans take note &#8212; this is your future &#8212; Republicans Who Are Not Perfect Saints cannot and will not be allowed have public opinions without being destroyed by the intolerant jackbooted Leftwing Thought Police.</p>
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		<title>By: droth</title>
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		<dc:creator>droth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 19:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>here&#039;s the link to the full Obama/&quot;Joe the plumber without a license&quot; interview

abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=6031110</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>here&#8217;s the link to the full Obama/&#8221;Joe the plumber without a license&#8221; interview</p>
<p>abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=6031110</p>
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		<title>By: droth</title>
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		<dc:creator>droth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 19:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all, who is &quot;Joe the plumber&quot;?
Not exactly the poor &quot;working joe&quot; he pretends to be. These might shed a little light on it...

www.eisenstadtgroup.com/2008/10/15/joe-the-plumber-wurzelbacher-related-to-charles-keating-oops/
www.dailykos.com/story/2008/10/16/02217/845

Second of all, people who don&#039;t pay taxes now will not be &quot;getting a check in the 
mail&quot; as a result of Obama&#039;s plan. It&#039;s  cut in taxes. A TAX CUT. Get it?

this whole thing about not &quot;spreading the wealth&quot; is a joke we already have a tax system where the more income you have
the more taxes you pay - even McCain doesn&#039;t 
want to change that - or does he? 

and this whole &quot;American dream&quot; myth is, well - a myth!
we all know plenty of people who&#039;ve work hard all their lives and haven&#039;t achieved
commensurate success - maybe you&#039;re one of them? Oh no. Of course, not you.

financial success = smart * hard work * LUCK

It&#039;s to the benefit of those at the top, like McCain, who&#039;ve married into their wealth to keep the myth alive. And america just keeps drinking that kool-aid. glug glug glugTime to call out the pink elephant in the room.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, who is &#8220;Joe the plumber&#8221;?<br />
Not exactly the poor &#8220;working joe&#8221; he pretends to be. These might shed a little light on it&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.eisenstadtgroup.com/2008/10/15/joe-the-plumber-wurzelbacher-related-to-charles-keating-oops/" rel="nofollow">http://www.eisenstadtgroup.com/2008/10/15/joe-the-plumber-wurzelbacher-related-to-charles-keating-oops/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/10/16/02217/845" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/10/16/02217/845</a></p>
<p>Second of all, people who don&#8217;t pay taxes now will not be &#8220;getting a check in the<br />
mail&#8221; as a result of Obama&#8217;s plan. It&#8217;s  cut in taxes. A TAX CUT. Get it?</p>
<p>this whole thing about not &#8220;spreading the wealth&#8221; is a joke we already have a tax system where the more income you have<br />
the more taxes you pay &#8211; even McCain doesn&#8217;t<br />
want to change that &#8211; or does he? </p>
<p>and this whole &#8220;American dream&#8221; myth is, well &#8211; a myth!<br />
we all know plenty of people who&#8217;ve work hard all their lives and haven&#8217;t achieved<br />
commensurate success &#8211; maybe you&#8217;re one of them? Oh no. Of course, not you.</p>
<p>financial success = smart * hard work * LUCK</p>
<p>It&#8217;s to the benefit of those at the top, like McCain, who&#8217;ve married into their wealth to keep the myth alive. And america just keeps drinking that kool-aid. glug glug glugTime to call out the pink elephant in the room.</p>
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