Comments on: ACLU Pressure Registrars to Illegally Allow Out-of-State College Students to Vote in Virginia http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/10/14/aclu-pressure-registrars-to-illegally-allow-out-of-state-college-students-to-vote-in-virginia/ Beating Them With Their Own Sickle And Hammer Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:24:34 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.2 hourly 1 By: Kerwin http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/10/14/aclu-pressure-registrars-to-illegally-allow-out-of-state-college-students-to-vote-in-virginia/comment-page-1/#comment-100494 Kerwin Wed, 15 Oct 2008 06:05:40 +0000 http://www.stoptheaclu.com/?p=14456#comment-100494 To establish residency in a state is rather easy as the federal courts have made it so. I believe merely being a resident of the state for 30 days or less will qualify you as a resident of that state if you apply for such residency. I do not know if you can have dual or multiple residencies. I still have doubts a Freshman can establish residency before the time needed to register to vote is closes but it depends on factors I am not aware of. To establish residency in a state is rather easy as the federal courts have made it so. I believe merely being a resident of the state for 30 days or less will qualify you as a resident of that state if you apply for such residency. I do not know if you can have dual or multiple residencies. I still have doubts a Freshman can establish residency before the time needed to register to vote is closes but it depends on factors I am not aware of.

]]> By: Joe Clark http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/10/14/aclu-pressure-registrars-to-illegally-allow-out-of-state-college-students-to-vote-in-virginia/comment-page-1/#comment-100493 Joe Clark Wed, 15 Oct 2008 05:31:47 +0000 http://www.stoptheaclu.com/?p=14456#comment-100493 Kay, I tend to disagree. The government cannot know whether the student has made a permanent move to a new state or intends to leave after graduation. If the student takes a job in the new state, is paying income taxes in the new state, has switched their drivers' license to the new state's DMV, then who are we to say that they *must* be residents of the state where their parents live? Here's a radical idea: what if we VOTED on our income tax returns in April instead of November. People who don't have income don't get to vote. 14-year-olds with summer jobs could vote, but 20-year-old students who can't be arsed to work part time in the library WON'T vote. Hmm... maybe there's something to this idea... Kay, I tend to disagree. The government cannot know whether the student has made a permanent move to a new state or intends to leave after graduation. If the student takes a job in the new state, is paying income taxes in the new state, has switched their drivers’ license to the new state’s DMV, then who are we to say that they *must* be residents of the state where their parents live?

Here’s a radical idea: what if we VOTED on our income tax returns in April instead of November. People who don’t have income don’t get to vote. 14-year-olds with summer jobs could vote, but 20-year-old students who can’t be arsed to work part time in the library WON’T vote. Hmm… maybe there’s something to this idea…

]]> By: Kay L http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/10/14/aclu-pressure-registrars-to-illegally-allow-out-of-state-college-students-to-vote-in-virginia/comment-page-1/#comment-100489 Kay L Wed, 15 Oct 2008 04:22:56 +0000 http://www.stoptheaclu.com/?p=14456#comment-100489 The university certainly doesn't consider out of state students living in their dorms grounds for granting residency in regards to tuition. For that you would have to live in the state for one year without attending school. And the permanent address on your school records is usually mom and dad's--not your dorm room. This is just another try at gaming the system. Students can request absentee ballots from their home state and vote and then vote in the state where they go to college. It's nonsense. It's fraud. It's one more very good reason to keep the electoral college. The university certainly doesn’t consider out of state students living in their dorms grounds for granting residency in regards to tuition.

For that you would have to live in the state for one year without attending school.

And the permanent address on your school records is usually mom and dad’s–not your dorm room.

This is just another try at gaming the system. Students can request absentee ballots from their home state and vote and then vote in the state where they go to college.

It’s nonsense. It’s fraud. It’s one more very good reason to keep the electoral college.

]]> By: Joe Clark http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/10/14/aclu-pressure-registrars-to-illegally-allow-out-of-state-college-students-to-vote-in-virginia/comment-page-1/#comment-100485 Joe Clark Wed, 15 Oct 2008 03:48:03 +0000 http://www.stoptheaclu.com/?p=14456#comment-100485 This is a tricky issue. As a student, you have a pretty legitimate claim to being a resident of the state you're attending school in. You can also claim to be a resident of your home state, if your parents still live there and you still can use their mailing address. It's hard for the government to be sure which is the official residence. I hate to admit it, but if we had a national ID system or national driver's license, this would all be much more scientific! The real question is not whether they vote in Virginia or in their home states. The question is, are they going to vote in BOTH? And if they did, would we be able to catch them? This is a tricky issue. As a student, you have a pretty legitimate claim to being a resident of the state you’re attending school in. You can also claim to be a resident of your home state, if your parents still live there and you still can use their mailing address. It’s hard for the government to be sure which is the official residence. I hate to admit it, but if we had a national ID system or national driver’s license, this would all be much more scientific!

The real question is not whether they vote in Virginia or in their home states. The question is, are they going to vote in BOTH? And if they did, would we be able to catch them?

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