Comments on: Sarah Palin’s Future Son-in-Law: From the “Start” He Planned to Marry Bristol http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/10/13/sarah-palins-future-son-in-law-from-the-start-he-planned-to-marry-bristol/ Beating Them With Their Own Sickle And Hammer Mon, 23 Nov 2009 03:01:57 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.2 hourly 1 By: Maggie Thornton http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/10/13/sarah-palins-future-son-in-law-from-the-start-he-planned-to-marry-bristol/comment-page-1/#comment-100472 Maggie Thornton Wed, 15 Oct 2008 01:16:23 +0000 http://www.stoptheaclu.com/?p=14326#comment-100472 Panday, glass half-empty, glass half-full. It happened, now it's about making it all work out. Libs just can't stand it! Panday, glass half-empty, glass half-full. It happened, now it’s about making it all work out.

Libs just can’t stand it!

]]> By: Maggie Thornton http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/10/13/sarah-palins-future-son-in-law-from-the-start-he-planned-to-marry-bristol/comment-page-1/#comment-100471 Maggie Thornton Wed, 15 Oct 2008 01:13:59 +0000 http://www.stoptheaclu.com/?p=14326#comment-100471 4Real: do you know that a Black or Hispanic drop-out in Alaska cannot get a job in the oil fields? I believe graduating is the way to go. Levi decided not to. He got a job and he isn't whining. 4Real: do you know that a Black or Hispanic drop-out in Alaska cannot get a job in the oil fields?

I believe graduating is the way to go. Levi decided not to. He got a job and he isn’t whining.

]]> By: Maggie Thornton http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/10/13/sarah-palins-future-son-in-law-from-the-start-he-planned-to-marry-bristol/comment-page-1/#comment-100468 Maggie Thornton Wed, 15 Oct 2008 01:11:11 +0000 http://www.stoptheaclu.com/?p=14326#comment-100468 One-eyed Undertaker: OEU got it right. One thing about Palin, she got where she is by working hard. Not exactly Biden's story. This is certainly no Jerry Springer story, but if it comforts you to think so, go with it. One-eyed Undertaker: OEU got it right. One thing about Palin, she got where she is by working hard. Not exactly Biden’s story. This is certainly no Jerry Springer story, but if it comforts you to think so, go with it.

]]> By: Panday http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/10/13/sarah-palins-future-son-in-law-from-the-start-he-planned-to-marry-bristol/comment-page-1/#comment-100444 Panday Tue, 14 Oct 2008 21:19:33 +0000 http://www.stoptheaclu.com/?p=14326#comment-100444 OEU, It's not being celebrated. It is being highlighted as a better choice than aborting the baby, however. Alaska is one of the few places left where someone actually can find good work in their teens, namely in the oil fields. I wish both of them good luck. OEU,

It’s not being celebrated. It is being highlighted as a better choice than aborting the baby, however.

Alaska is one of the few places left where someone actually can find good work in their teens, namely in the oil fields.

I wish both of them good luck.

]]> By: The One-Eyed Undertaker http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/10/13/sarah-palins-future-son-in-law-from-the-start-he-planned-to-marry-bristol/comment-page-1/#comment-100389 The One-Eyed Undertaker Tue, 14 Oct 2008 16:49:00 +0000 http://www.stoptheaclu.com/?p=14326#comment-100389 Since when has unwed teen pregnancy been something to celebrate? Now, the father has dropped out of his senior year in High School (another outstanding display of critical thinking skills). No doubt their baby will be taken care of, regardless of the outcome of the election. However, I find Gov. Palin's lack of influence over her daughter and future son-in-law to be distressing, to say the least. She can run for the second highest position in the free world, but her family is paying the price. This family is becoming a Jerry Springer marathon! I suggest Sarah Palin remove herself from the ticket, go home, and work on her seriously challenged family. Since when has unwed teen pregnancy been something to celebrate?

Now, the father has dropped out of his senior year in High School (another outstanding display of critical thinking skills).

No doubt their baby will be taken care of, regardless of the outcome of the election. However, I find Gov. Palin’s lack of influence over her daughter and future son-in-law to be distressing, to say the least.

She can run for the second highest position in the free world, but her family is paying the price.

This family is becoming a Jerry Springer marathon!

I suggest Sarah Palin remove herself from the ticket, go home, and work on her seriously challenged family.

]]> By: Panday http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/10/13/sarah-palins-future-son-in-law-from-the-start-he-planned-to-marry-bristol/comment-page-1/#comment-100285 Panday Mon, 13 Oct 2008 23:39:38 +0000 http://www.stoptheaclu.com/?p=14326#comment-100285 mj said: "My problem is that people are praising Palin’s kid, instead of saying what she was wrong. Teenage pregnancy is nothing to celebrate. It doesn’t matter whether they are taking responsibility, which in this case means forgoing education." And if she'd taken the lib route and gotten an abortion, we could all have lived in happy ignorance about it, right? mj said: “My problem is that people are praising Palin’s kid, instead of saying what she was wrong. Teenage pregnancy is nothing to celebrate. It doesn’t matter whether they are taking responsibility, which in this case means forgoing education.”

And if she’d taken the lib route and gotten an abortion, we could all have lived in happy ignorance about it, right?

]]> By: Larry http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/10/13/sarah-palins-future-son-in-law-from-the-start-he-planned-to-marry-bristol/comment-page-1/#comment-100277 Larry Mon, 13 Oct 2008 23:05:59 +0000 http://www.stoptheaclu.com/?p=14326#comment-100277 Obviously, getting pregnant as a teen isn't what most parents would want, and even the most loving and involved parents have teenager daughters that get into this situation. The fact is, teenagers do make mistakes, alot of 'em. Some are serious, some aren't. The mistakes will occur, but what is more important than the missteps is how the teen, and their family,react to them. Now, you could react like a Salon columnist and get a discreet abortion for your teen, so that the scholarship to Vassar and pledge to Delta Gamma remain, and everything in your 18 year plan from the right kindergarten to the position on Wall Street works out. Unless you happen to be the human being, the creation of a loving God, that is destroyed - killed - in the process. Then it kinda sucks, I would reckon. Then again, maybe the truly noble thing to do is to accept the circumstances, keep the child, build a life with your new spouse, raise the child as well as you can, and do the best with what God gives you. Apparently, to some people, that's simply a non-starter, so abhorent it can't even be considered. I mean...can a human life really be worth a scholarship to Barnard? Hence Obama's quote about his kids being punished with a baby. For some people, thinking about their daughter having a child before they've become comfortably wealthy on their own and established in their career is unthinkable; for others, murdering a child in the womb under any circumstances is equally unthinkable. Does the moral divide between those two choices resonate with you, whatsoever? Are you so numbed by moral relativism that you cannot see that one choice is fundamentally moral, and the other immoral? What is amazing to me is that, in the space of the same short post, you managed to jump from the moral relativism of insinuating that an abortion would be preferred in this situation, so that at least the two involved could get an education, to the morally absolute judgement of what constitutes good parenting so you could castigate the Palin's for their daughter becoming pregnant in the first place. Obviously, logical consistency is not your strong suit, MJ. Apparently, blind attacks on any possible aspect of the political "other," and judgmentalism when it suits your politics, is. I wonder how Mr. Obama would fare under similar scrutiny, were the press to apply the same standards they've practiced against Palin's? I have a feeling he would never have left the Illinois senate. One more thing. Please provide a solid reference for Sarah Palin's drug use - the National Enquirer does not count. I can find no reputable references after searching through 100 hits on Google. Obviously, getting pregnant as a teen isn’t what most parents would want, and even the most loving and involved parents have teenager daughters that get into this situation. The fact is, teenagers do make mistakes, alot of ‘em. Some are serious, some aren’t. The mistakes will occur, but what is more important than the missteps is how the teen, and their family,react to them. Now, you could react like a Salon columnist and get a discreet abortion for your teen, so that the scholarship to Vassar and pledge to Delta Gamma remain, and everything in your 18 year plan from the right kindergarten to the position on Wall Street works out. Unless you happen to be the human being, the creation of a loving God, that is destroyed – killed – in the process. Then it kinda sucks, I would reckon.

Then again, maybe the truly noble thing to do is to accept the circumstances, keep the child, build a life with your new spouse, raise the child as well as you can, and do the best with what God gives you. Apparently, to some people, that’s simply a non-starter, so abhorent it can’t even be considered. I mean…can a human life really be worth a scholarship to Barnard? Hence Obama’s quote about his kids being punished with a baby. For some people, thinking about their daughter having a child before they’ve become comfortably wealthy on their own and established in their career is unthinkable; for others, murdering a child in the womb under any circumstances is equally unthinkable. Does the moral divide between those two choices resonate with you, whatsoever? Are you so numbed by moral relativism that you cannot see that one choice is fundamentally moral, and the other immoral?

What is amazing to me is that, in the space of the same short post, you managed to jump from the moral relativism of insinuating that an abortion would be preferred in this situation, so that at least the two involved could get an education, to the morally absolute judgement of what constitutes good parenting so you could castigate the Palin’s for their daughter becoming pregnant in the first place. Obviously, logical consistency is not your strong suit, MJ. Apparently, blind attacks on any possible aspect of the political “other,” and judgmentalism when it suits your politics, is. I wonder how Mr. Obama would fare under similar scrutiny, were the press to apply the same standards they’ve practiced against Palin’s? I have a feeling he would never have left the Illinois senate.

One more thing. Please provide a solid reference for Sarah Palin’s drug use – the National Enquirer does not count. I can find no reputable references after searching through 100 hits on Google.

]]> By: Larry http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/10/13/sarah-palins-future-son-in-law-from-the-start-he-planned-to-marry-bristol/comment-page-1/#comment-100275 Larry Mon, 13 Oct 2008 23:00:25 +0000 http://www.stoptheaclu.com/?p=14326#comment-100275 Obviously, getting pregnant as a teen isn't what most parents would want, and even the most loving and involved parents have teenager daughters that get into this situation. The fact is, teenagers do make mistakes, alot of 'em. Some are serious, some aren't. The mistakes will occur, but what is more important than the missteps is how the teen, and their family,react to them. Now, you could react like a Salon columnist and get a discreet abortion for your teen, so that the scholarship to Vassar and pledge to Delta Gamma remain, and everything in your 18 year plan from the right kindergarten to the position on Wall Street works out. Unless you happen to be the human being, the creation of a loving God, that is destroyed - killed - in the process. Then it kinda sucks, I would reckon. Then again, maybe the truly noble thing to do is to accept the circumstances, keep the child, build a life with your new spouse, raise the child as well as you can, and do the best with what God gives you. Apparently, to some people, that's simply a non-starter, so abhorent it can't even be considered. I mean...can a human life really be worth a scholarship to Barnard? Hence Obama's quote about his kids being punished with a baby. For some people, thinking about their daughter having a child before they've become comfortably wealthy on their own and established in their career is unthinkable; for others, murdering a child in the womb under any circumstances is equally unthinkable. Does the moral divide between those two choices resonate with you, whatsoever? Are you so numbed by moral relativism that you cannot see that one choice is fundamentally moral, and the other immoral? What is amazing to me is that, in the space of the same short post, you managed to jump from the moral relativism of insinuating that an abortion would be preferred in this situation, so that at least the two involved could get an education, to the morally absolute judgement of what constitutes good parenting so you could castigate the Palin's for their daughter becoming pregnant in the first place. Obviously, logical consistency is not your strong suit, MJ. Apparently, blind attacks on any possible aspect of the political "other," and judgmentalism when it suits your politics, is. I wonder how Mr. Obama would fare under similar scrutiny, were the press to apply the same standards they've practiced against Palin's? I have a feeling he would never have left the Illinois senate. Obama is a construct. Obviously, getting pregnant as a teen isn’t what most parents would want, and even the most loving and involved parents have teenager daughters that get into this situation. The fact is, teenagers do make mistakes, alot of ‘em. Some are serious, some aren’t. The mistakes will occur, but what is more important than the missteps is how the teen, and their family,react to them. Now, you could react like a Salon columnist and get a discreet abortion for your teen, so that the scholarship to Vassar and pledge to Delta Gamma remain, and everything in your 18 year plan from the right kindergarten to the position on Wall Street works out. Unless you happen to be the human being, the creation of a loving God, that is destroyed – killed – in the process. Then it kinda sucks, I would reckon.

Then again, maybe the truly noble thing to do is to accept the circumstances, keep the child, build a life with your new spouse, raise the child as well as you can, and do the best with what God gives you. Apparently, to some people, that’s simply a non-starter, so abhorent it can’t even be considered. I mean…can a human life really be worth a scholarship to Barnard? Hence Obama’s quote about his kids being punished with a baby. For some people, thinking about their daughter having a child before they’ve become comfortably wealthy on their own and established in their career is unthinkable; for others, murdering a child in the womb under any circumstances is equally unthinkable. Does the moral divide between those two choices resonate with you, whatsoever? Are you so numbed by moral relativism that you cannot see that one choice is fundamentally moral, and the other immoral?

What is amazing to me is that, in the space of the same short post, you managed to jump from the moral relativism of insinuating that an abortion would be preferred in this situation, so that at least the two involved could get an education, to the morally absolute judgement of what constitutes good parenting so you could castigate the Palin’s for their daughter becoming pregnant in the first place. Obviously, logical consistency is not your strong suit, MJ. Apparently, blind attacks on any possible aspect of the political “other,” and judgmentalism when it suits your politics, is. I wonder how Mr. Obama would fare under similar scrutiny, were the press to apply the same standards they’ve practiced against Palin’s? I have a feeling he would never have left the Illinois senate.

Obama is a construct.

]]> By: Laura http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/10/13/sarah-palins-future-son-in-law-from-the-start-he-planned-to-marry-bristol/comment-page-1/#comment-100264 Laura Mon, 13 Oct 2008 22:15:48 +0000 http://www.stoptheaclu.com/?p=14326#comment-100264 MJ, Find something better to do than sleaze all over some teenagers. I'm a mom of a 17 year old girl, and NOTHING I do is going to change her mind once she decides. I'm home every day, but she believes she's 30, which is the fault of a culture that your obvious political leanings very assuredly contributed to. Fine for Bill to do what he did to a young Monica in the Oval office? No problem if they're having sex all over the city of San Francisco? Quit being a hypocrit. MJ,
Find something better to do than sleaze all over some teenagers. I’m a mom of a 17 year old girl, and NOTHING I do is going to change her mind once she decides. I’m home every day, but she believes she’s 30, which is the fault of a culture that your obvious political leanings very assuredly contributed to. Fine for Bill to do what he did to a young Monica in the Oval office? No problem if they’re having sex all over the city of San Francisco? Quit being a hypocrit.

]]> By: History Chasers http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/10/13/sarah-palins-future-son-in-law-from-the-start-he-planned-to-marry-bristol/comment-page-1/#comment-100238 History Chasers Mon, 13 Oct 2008 20:14:34 +0000 http://www.stoptheaclu.com/?p=14326#comment-100238 Levi could do a lot worse than getting into an electrician's apprentiship in the North Slope oil fields. Pay is $40. to $70. an hour. Leave these two alone. 5 years from now, many of their critics may wish they could trade places with them. http://sarah-palin-2008.blogspot.com/2008/10/johnston-speaks-on-bristol-palin-obama.html Levi could do a lot worse than getting into an electrician’s apprentiship in the North Slope oil fields. Pay is $40. to $70. an hour.

Leave these two alone. 5 years from now, many of their critics may wish they could trade places with them.

http://sarah-palin-2008.blogspot.com/2008/10/johnston-speaks-on-bristol-palin-obama.html

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