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	<title>Comments on: The Imperial Judiciary strikes again, reinvents marriage in CT</title>
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	<description>Beating Them With Their Own Sickle And Hammer</description>
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		<title>By: Op Ed.</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/10/10/the-imperial-judiciary-strikes-again-reinvents-marriage-in-ct/comment-page-1/#comment-100039</link>
		<dc:creator>Op Ed.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 03:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Yes, when Connecticut was founded, and in all societies and cultures for thousands of years prior, the powers-that-be got together to figure out ways to harm people who prefer same-sex relationships. “I’ve got it,” they all said. “We will invent marriage! That will stick it to the gays! We must make [sure] they are denied equal protection!”&quot;

Way to highlight the insane worldview behind this ruling.  How now can Connecticut rule &lt;i&gt;anything&lt;/i&gt; is not a marriage?  Two women, three women, that&#039;s just an orientation, man!  A sibling?  A dog?  A leather sofa?  Hey, it&#039;s a sexual orientation!  You can&#039;t discriminate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Yes, when Connecticut was founded, and in all societies and cultures for thousands of years prior, the powers-that-be got together to figure out ways to harm people who prefer same-sex relationships. “I’ve got it,” they all said. “We will invent marriage! That will stick it to the gays! We must make [sure] they are denied equal protection!”&#8221;</p>
<p>Way to highlight the insane worldview behind this ruling.  How now can Connecticut rule <i>anything</i> is not a marriage?  Two women, three women, that&#8217;s just an orientation, man!  A sibling?  A dog?  A leather sofa?  Hey, it&#8217;s a sexual orientation!  You can&#8217;t discriminate.</p>
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		<title>By: Angie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 22:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doesn&#039;t that mental picture kind of describe Michelle Obama, the ragin&#039; mama?  She is one angry carbon unit.  Doesn&#039;t it also kind of describe the Hillary crowd, after the DNC ruling on MI and FL, after she was shed from the primaries, after.... well, some of them are still foaming at the mouth.  But just IMAGINE all the rabid hatred and foaming the Obama gang will be displaying if Barry&#039;s given two thumbs down in the Electoral College.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doesn&#8217;t that mental picture kind of describe Michelle Obama, the ragin&#8217; mama?  She is one angry carbon unit.  Doesn&#8217;t it also kind of describe the Hillary crowd, after the DNC ruling on MI and FL, after she was shed from the primaries, after&#8230;. well, some of them are still foaming at the mouth.  But just IMAGINE all the rabid hatred and foaming the Obama gang will be displaying if Barry&#8217;s given two thumbs down in the Electoral College.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 20:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Snicker, snicker...nice bit of projection there, KTK!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Snicker, snicker&#8230;nice bit of projection there, KTK!</p>
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		<title>By: Angie</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/10/10/the-imperial-judiciary-strikes-again-reinvents-marriage-in-ct/comment-page-1/#comment-99958</link>
		<dc:creator>Angie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 20:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said, Greg Scott!</description>
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		<title>By: Plumb Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Plumb Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 20:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The comparison between the proper definition of marriage and miscegenation laws is as specious as any I&#039;ve ever seen; nobody making that comparison deserves to be considered a thinking adult.

Nobody ever made the claim that the marriage between a black person and white person was not a marriage; they simply said it was improper because of race. What gays are attempting is not a breaking down of social barriers, but a complete redefinition of a social institution that has existed since the dawn of time.

By the way, the Supreme Court&#039;s overturning of miscegenation laws was also an unconstitutional exercise of raw judicial power. Just because you like the outcome, doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s proper. Tyranny always begins with illegal measures that the majority finds acceptable; it&#039;s only later that the overweening power of government becomes odious even to the majority, but by then it&#039;s too late.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The comparison between the proper definition of marriage and miscegenation laws is as specious as any I&#8217;ve ever seen; nobody making that comparison deserves to be considered a thinking adult.</p>
<p>Nobody ever made the claim that the marriage between a black person and white person was not a marriage; they simply said it was improper because of race. What gays are attempting is not a breaking down of social barriers, but a complete redefinition of a social institution that has existed since the dawn of time.</p>
<p>By the way, the Supreme Court&#8217;s overturning of miscegenation laws was also an unconstitutional exercise of raw judicial power. Just because you like the outcome, doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s proper. Tyranny always begins with illegal measures that the majority finds acceptable; it&#8217;s only later that the overweening power of government becomes odious even to the majority, but by then it&#8217;s too late.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 19:02:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Loving is irrelevant.  Anti-miscegenation laws were set up IN ORDER TO discriminate.  Marriage laws were not.  The very founder of the Virginia colony himself was involved in an interracial marriage, so that law was a late-adopted racist perversion targeted at particular people for characteristics that had nothing to do with marriage.  Loving was about affirming the MARRIAGE of one man and one woman and treating this MARRIED MAN AND WOMAN as equal to other MARRIED people.

There is no difference between blacks and whites.  There are big differences between men and women and big differences between a man-woman union and a man-man relationship.

Man-woman unions are INHERENTLY beneficial to society in a way that NO OTHER RELATIONSHIP can possibly be.  That is why the state has an interest in recognizing these relationships.  There is no state interest in recognizing any other relationship as a &quot;marriage.&quot;

Marriage laws treat every person equally -- any non-married, majority-aged person has the same exact access to the same exact pool of non-cosanguine Americans.  The violation of equal protection in VA&#039;s anti-miscegenation was what Loving addressed.  What the SC of CT did was invent a brand new definition of marriage based on nothing but the desire to further the agenda of a wealth-drenched, pandered-to political movement.  Equating this with the civil rights movement is insulting propaganda.

I don&#039;t know what your unsourced public opinion poll references have to do with anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loving is irrelevant.  Anti-miscegenation laws were set up IN ORDER TO discriminate.  Marriage laws were not.  The very founder of the Virginia colony himself was involved in an interracial marriage, so that law was a late-adopted racist perversion targeted at particular people for characteristics that had nothing to do with marriage.  Loving was about affirming the MARRIAGE of one man and one woman and treating this MARRIED MAN AND WOMAN as equal to other MARRIED people.</p>
<p>There is no difference between blacks and whites.  There are big differences between men and women and big differences between a man-woman union and a man-man relationship.</p>
<p>Man-woman unions are INHERENTLY beneficial to society in a way that NO OTHER RELATIONSHIP can possibly be.  That is why the state has an interest in recognizing these relationships.  There is no state interest in recognizing any other relationship as a &#8220;marriage.&#8221;</p>
<p>Marriage laws treat every person equally &#8212; any non-married, majority-aged person has the same exact access to the same exact pool of non-cosanguine Americans.  The violation of equal protection in VA&#8217;s anti-miscegenation was what Loving addressed.  What the SC of CT did was invent a brand new definition of marriage based on nothing but the desire to further the agenda of a wealth-drenched, pandered-to political movement.  Equating this with the civil rights movement is insulting propaganda.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what your unsourced public opinion poll references have to do with anything.</p>
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		<title>By: sandy</title>
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		<dc:creator>sandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 18:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People, this is the function of a Supreme Court. In 1958, only 4% of whites approved of interracial marriage. When interracial marriage was finally made legal ten years later, only 17% of whites approved. Why was it made legal? Because a few &quot;imperialist activist judges,&quot; oh, I mean the U.S. Supreme Court, ruled that it was fundamentally unconstitutional to deny citizens the right to marry the person of their choice. I quote from the court&#039;s decision from this case (Loving v. Virginia, 1967): &quot;Marriage is one of the &#039;basic civil rights of man&#039;.... To deny this fundamental freedom on so unsupportable a basis as the racial classifications embodied in these statutes, classifications so directly subversive of the principle of equality at the heart of the Fourteenth Amendment, is surely to deprive all the State&#039;s citizens of liberty without due process of law.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People, this is the function of a Supreme Court. In 1958, only 4% of whites approved of interracial marriage. When interracial marriage was finally made legal ten years later, only 17% of whites approved. Why was it made legal? Because a few &#8220;imperialist activist judges,&#8221; oh, I mean the U.S. Supreme Court, ruled that it was fundamentally unconstitutional to deny citizens the right to marry the person of their choice. I quote from the court&#8217;s decision from this case (Loving v. Virginia, 1967): &#8220;Marriage is one of the &#8216;basic civil rights of man&#8217;&#8230;. To deny this fundamental freedom on so unsupportable a basis as the racial classifications embodied in these statutes, classifications so directly subversive of the principle of equality at the heart of the Fourteenth Amendment, is surely to deprive all the State&#8217;s citizens of liberty without due process of law.&#8221;</p>
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