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		<title>By: Richard O.</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/09/29/reactions-defeat-of-bailout-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-99004</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard O.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 10:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There were angry words about partisanship and Congress was to work in a bipartisan manner on this bill. It was a bipartisan vote the way I see it. A very big bipartisan NO. Let&#039;s hope they can continue to vote no until they can put something together that does not screw the American people for decades and takes all the power out of the hands of one single person. Halloween came early. Just watch D.C.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There were angry words about partisanship and Congress was to work in a bipartisan manner on this bill. It was a bipartisan vote the way I see it. A very big bipartisan NO. Let&#8217;s hope they can continue to vote no until they can put something together that does not screw the American people for decades and takes all the power out of the hands of one single person. Halloween came early. Just watch D.C.</p>
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		<title>By: Angie</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/09/29/reactions-defeat-of-bailout-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-99002</link>
		<dc:creator>Angie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 08:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correct me if I&#039;m wrong, but isn&#039;t the HOUSE responsible for appropriations?  If they didn&#039;t like Bush&#039;s &quot;anything goes,&quot; they had the power to stomp it out then and there, over the past 8 years.  People like PELOSI, who are too busy trying to push the blame on a lame duck President than put the blame squarely where it belongs.  She makes me ill.

DEMOCRATS are the ones responsible for this, and I place that blame all the way back to 1913 when the Federal Reserve Act was signed by a DEMOCRATIC President and his Congress in the single deepest subversion of the Constitution in our nation&#039;s history.  Exacerbated further by a DEMOCRATIC President in creation of The New Deal and expansion - rather than elimination - of welfare policies by another DEMOCRATIC President.

In signing into power the Fed and giving it the depth of power it has, they have perpetuated and encouraged the manipulation of &quot;free markets&quot; - not allowing them to operate in the manner they should and causing more severe corrections - JUST LIKE THIS ONE WE ARE SEEING NOW.

What was so &quot;great&quot; about the Great Depression?  Well, since she&#039;s obviously too ignorant to pick up a history book or a book on economics, I&#039;ll tell her what&#039;s so great about it:  It was a chance to learn from our mistakes, what happens when you diddle the system - SO STOP MANIPULATING IT.  Instead, they make things worse and worse by not only NOT learning from history but playing with it EVEN MORE.  The depression we see (and mark my words, there WILL be one) will be a direct result of the constant manipulation of the markets out of GREED and ARROGANCE and BLATANT STUPIDITY; it will have a worse result the more they screw around with it, instead of leaving it alone; and it will make the Great Depression look like a picnic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correct me if I&#8217;m wrong, but isn&#8217;t the HOUSE responsible for appropriations?  If they didn&#8217;t like Bush&#8217;s &#8220;anything goes,&#8221; they had the power to stomp it out then and there, over the past 8 years.  People like PELOSI, who are too busy trying to push the blame on a lame duck President than put the blame squarely where it belongs.  She makes me ill.</p>
<p>DEMOCRATS are the ones responsible for this, and I place that blame all the way back to 1913 when the Federal Reserve Act was signed by a DEMOCRATIC President and his Congress in the single deepest subversion of the Constitution in our nation&#8217;s history.  Exacerbated further by a DEMOCRATIC President in creation of The New Deal and expansion &#8211; rather than elimination &#8211; of welfare policies by another DEMOCRATIC President.</p>
<p>In signing into power the Fed and giving it the depth of power it has, they have perpetuated and encouraged the manipulation of &#8220;free markets&#8221; &#8211; not allowing them to operate in the manner they should and causing more severe corrections &#8211; JUST LIKE THIS ONE WE ARE SEEING NOW.</p>
<p>What was so &#8220;great&#8221; about the Great Depression?  Well, since she&#8217;s obviously too ignorant to pick up a history book or a book on economics, I&#8217;ll tell her what&#8217;s so great about it:  It was a chance to learn from our mistakes, what happens when you diddle the system &#8211; SO STOP MANIPULATING IT.  Instead, they make things worse and worse by not only NOT learning from history but playing with it EVEN MORE.  The depression we see (and mark my words, there WILL be one) will be a direct result of the constant manipulation of the markets out of GREED and ARROGANCE and BLATANT STUPIDITY; it will have a worse result the more they screw around with it, instead of leaving it alone; and it will make the Great Depression look like a picnic.</p>
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		<title>By: K.L.</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/09/29/reactions-defeat-of-bailout-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-99001</link>
		<dc:creator>K.L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 08:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is awesome. Very well put together. Leaves no confusion......as Joe Friday would say, &quot;The facts M&#039;am, just the facts&quot;. All facts presented here can be verified on Google.

It is a little long (11min) and goes pretty fast. But well worth the time to see. If it goes to fast, use the pause button to stop on each frame you want see it more fully.

Burning Down The House: What Caused Our Economic Crisis? V2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NU6fuFrdCJY


Now go look at section 106 of the ‘‘Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008’’  http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/rescuebill_First_Draft.pdf .

It still wants to skim off 20% of the profits of each sale to fund this housing fiasco and ACORN. If you object to this, then write, email or call your Representative. Slice the pork out. You can make a difference. According to the vote today, many have.

how did your rep vote?  http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2008/roll674.xml

Find your rep here: https://forms.house.gov/wyr/welcome.shtml

Find your Reps website here:  http://www.house.gov/house/MemberWWW.shtml

Forward this on to all you know. Let the truth out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is awesome. Very well put together. Leaves no confusion&#8230;&#8230;as Joe Friday would say, &#8220;The facts M&#8217;am, just the facts&#8221;. All facts presented here can be verified on Google.</p>
<p>It is a little long (11min) and goes pretty fast. But well worth the time to see. If it goes to fast, use the pause button to stop on each frame you want see it more fully.</p>
<p>Burning Down The House: What Caused Our Economic Crisis? V2<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NU6fuFrdCJY" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NU6fuFrdCJY</a></p>
<p>Now go look at section 106 of the ‘‘Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008’’  <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/rescuebill_First_Draft.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/rescuebill_First_Draft.pdf</a> .</p>
<p>It still wants to skim off 20% of the profits of each sale to fund this housing fiasco and ACORN. If you object to this, then write, email or call your Representative. Slice the pork out. You can make a difference. According to the vote today, many have.</p>
<p>how did your rep vote?  <a href="http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2008/roll674.xml" rel="nofollow">http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2008/roll674.xml</a></p>
<p>Find your rep here: <a href="https://forms.house.gov/wyr/welcome.shtml" rel="nofollow">https://forms.house.gov/wyr/welcome.shtml</a></p>
<p>Find your Reps website here:  <a href="http://www.house.gov/house/MemberWWW.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.house.gov/house/MemberWWW.shtml</a></p>
<p>Forward this on to all you know. Let the truth out.</p>
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		<title>By: loboinok</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/09/29/reactions-defeat-of-bailout-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-98991</link>
		<dc:creator>loboinok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 04:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;...admitting they knew nothing of this mess during the last two years&lt;/i&gt;

They knew.

&lt;blockquote&gt;September 11, 2003 - &quot;Significant details must still be worked out before Congress can approve a bill. Among the groups denouncing the proposal today were the National Association of Home Builders and Congressional Democrats who fear that tighter regulation of the companies could sharply reduce their commitment to financing low-income and affordable housing.

&#039;&#039;These two entities -- Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac -- are not facing any kind of financial crisis,&#039;&#039; said Representative Barney Frank of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee. &lt;b&gt;&#039;&#039;The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.&#039;&#039;&lt;/b&gt;

Representative Melvin L. Watt, Democrat of North Carolina, agreed.

&#039;&#039;I don&#039;t see much other than a shell game going on here, moving something from one agency to another and in the process weakening the bargaining power of poorer families and their ability to get affordable housing,&#039;&#039; Mr. Watt said&quot;&lt;/a&gt;


&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E06E3D6123BF932A2575AC0A9659C8B63&amp;sec=&amp;spon=&amp;pagewanted=print&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;New Agency Proposed to Oversee Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8230;admitting they knew nothing of this mess during the last two years</i></p>
<p>They knew.</p>
<blockquote><p>September 11, 2003 &#8211; &#8220;Significant details must still be worked out before Congress can approve a bill. Among the groups denouncing the proposal today were the National Association of Home Builders and Congressional Democrats who fear that tighter regulation of the companies could sharply reduce their commitment to financing low-income and affordable housing.</p>
<p>&#8221;These two entities &#8212; Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac &#8212; are not facing any kind of financial crisis,&#8221; said Representative Barney Frank of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee. <b>&#8221;The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.&#8221;</b></p>
<p>Representative Melvin L. Watt, Democrat of North Carolina, agreed.</p>
<p>&#8221;I don&#8217;t see much other than a shell game going on here, moving something from one agency to another and in the process weakening the bargaining power of poorer families and their ability to get affordable housing,&#8221; Mr. Watt said&#8221;</p>
<p><a HREF="http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E06E3D6123BF932A2575AC0A9659C8B63&#038;sec=&#038;spon=&#038;pagewanted=print" rel="nofollow">New Agency Proposed to Oversee Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae</a></p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: gooniebird</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/09/29/reactions-defeat-of-bailout-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-98984</link>
		<dc:creator>gooniebird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 02:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The demacreeps will try again and again until it passes since their mostly crinimals</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The demacreeps will try again and again until it passes since their mostly crinimals</p>
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		<title>By: MarkJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 02:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I almost look forward to a &quot;President Obama&quot; having to deal on a daily basis with the Debatably Competent Duo of Pelosi and Reid:

I&#039;ve got ten bucks says Obama will soon wish to hell he&#039;d LOST the election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I almost look forward to a &#8220;President Obama&#8221; having to deal on a daily basis with the Debatably Competent Duo of Pelosi and Reid:</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve got ten bucks says Obama will soon wish to hell he&#8217;d LOST the election.</p>
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		<title>By: Levi</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/09/29/reactions-defeat-of-bailout-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-98977</link>
		<dc:creator>Levi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 01:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the insane thing that I&#039;ve ever seen. How can you seriously blame a party where a majority of its members vote in the affirmative for the failure of a bill? 

I FEEL LIKE I&#039;M TAKING CRAZY PILLS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the insane thing that I&#8217;ve ever seen. How can you seriously blame a party where a majority of its members vote in the affirmative for the failure of a bill? </p>
<p>I FEEL LIKE I&#8217;M TAKING CRAZY PILLS.</p>
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		<title>By: John Gruhler</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/09/29/reactions-defeat-of-bailout-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-98974</link>
		<dc:creator>John Gruhler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 00:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This whole sideshow is getting dangerous. You have the Democrats who have controlled the congress of the United States, admitting they knew nothing of this mess during the last two years...saying this mess snuck up on us like a small cat&#039;s foot...what nonsense...you were overpaid and charged with knowing what was happening. What an appalling answer to &quot;How did this mess happen to be .

You have the blundering of the President trying to effect this extortion of the taxpayers hard-earned money with nothing but a last few month grandstanding of his miserable performance. Peddling fear and panic to anyone who would listen to him. 

I am so sick of the news dedicated to the White House. I personally place the blame of this corrupt and avoidable mess on the heads of the entire congress of the U.S. Senators and Representatives are what the lobbyists of Wall Street and Washington control. The president is a cheerleader, and veto machine. The responsibility of oversight and accountability has been lost on the last 20 years of the congresses returning favors in exchange of re-election of themselves: much of their funds coming from lobbyists who really own most of them.

Throw every single person serving in the United States Congress out of office as quickly as possible. If a democrat put a new democrat in office, if republican put a new republican in office. Without a new congress to rewrite the procedures that the framers designed for them---we are lost.

Never let a politician become elected more than six years....the foxes guarding the hen houses are destroying this nation...Voters Wake up!!!!!

AMERICA NEEDS A BRAND NEW CONGRESS IMMEDIATELY, OTHERWISE THIS NATION WILL BE A FOURTH GENERATION COUNTRY WITHIN 25 YEARS......JG</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This whole sideshow is getting dangerous. You have the Democrats who have controlled the congress of the United States, admitting they knew nothing of this mess during the last two years&#8230;saying this mess snuck up on us like a small cat&#8217;s foot&#8230;what nonsense&#8230;you were overpaid and charged with knowing what was happening. What an appalling answer to &#8220;How did this mess happen to be .</p>
<p>You have the blundering of the President trying to effect this extortion of the taxpayers hard-earned money with nothing but a last few month grandstanding of his miserable performance. Peddling fear and panic to anyone who would listen to him. </p>
<p>I am so sick of the news dedicated to the White House. I personally place the blame of this corrupt and avoidable mess on the heads of the entire congress of the U.S. Senators and Representatives are what the lobbyists of Wall Street and Washington control. The president is a cheerleader, and veto machine. The responsibility of oversight and accountability has been lost on the last 20 years of the congresses returning favors in exchange of re-election of themselves: much of their funds coming from lobbyists who really own most of them.</p>
<p>Throw every single person serving in the United States Congress out of office as quickly as possible. If a democrat put a new democrat in office, if republican put a new republican in office. Without a new congress to rewrite the procedures that the framers designed for them&#8212;we are lost.</p>
<p>Never let a politician become elected more than six years&#8230;.the foxes guarding the hen houses are destroying this nation&#8230;Voters Wake up!!!!!</p>
<p>AMERICA NEEDS A BRAND NEW CONGRESS IMMEDIATELY, OTHERWISE THIS NATION WILL BE A FOURTH GENERATION COUNTRY WITHIN 25 YEARS&#8230;&#8230;JG</p>
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		<title>By: joyce</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/09/29/reactions-defeat-of-bailout-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-98973</link>
		<dc:creator>joyce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 00:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Repubs didn&#039;t vote for this piece of crap, because their constituents don&#039;t want it.  Might I remind Ms. Pelosi that 95 Democrats ALSO voted against it?  Does she think it&#039;s because of her little hissy fit of lies?  No, it&#039;s because they are all  under pressure from the voters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Repubs didn&#8217;t vote for this piece of crap, because their constituents don&#8217;t want it.  Might I remind Ms. Pelosi that 95 Democrats ALSO voted against it?  Does she think it&#8217;s because of her little hissy fit of lies?  No, it&#8217;s because they are all  under pressure from the voters.</p>
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		<title>By: rachel</title>
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		<dc:creator>rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 00:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She&#039;s an evil witch who just can&#039;t help herself.  When she knows she&#039;s in trouble (she is trying to protect her dirty little coterie of guilty Fannie Mae donation recipients and Barney Frank &amp; Dodd who caused this whole mess to begin with), she just HAS to deflect her own guilt by pointing fingers.  Little bitch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She&#8217;s an evil witch who just can&#8217;t help herself.  When she knows she&#8217;s in trouble (she is trying to protect her dirty little coterie of guilty Fannie Mae donation recipients and Barney Frank &amp; Dodd who caused this whole mess to begin with), she just HAS to deflect her own guilt by pointing fingers.  Little bitch.</p>
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