Comments on: Why the Debates Don’t Matter

By: schon

schon — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 00:12:00 +0000

Someone is a little behind the curve here.I just want to point out an example.Mrs.Obama never made the statement “I’m finally proud to be an American”.That statement was taken from a sound byte that was edited and put out by Fox.Unedited, the statement was “I’m finally MORE proud to be an American”.It doesn’t take genius to pay attention to what’s going on in the world,and to see what’s right.I will not vote period,until such a time that we get rid of “The guy with the most money wins” way of electing,even for a guy who isn’t a war-mongerer and actually knows how to fix this god awful mess that the current status quo has got us into.

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By: Roger W. Gardner

Roger W. Gardner — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 06:58:33 +0000

“…voting against Obama right now is like arguing against global warming. They don’t know who Obama is, they just know that “everybody” is voting for him.”
Well said JC. I wish I could disagree with your analysis but I can’t.

By: Roger W. Gardner

Roger W. Gardner — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 06:53:03 +0000

Thank you Joe Clark. I’m certainly not looking for any new arguments — especially amongst friends. I agree that optimism is important and I believe that your optimism is important.
This damn election is different than anything I’ve seen. This one really has me worried. Most of the time all I think about is how to fight them and how to win. I work every day, 12-13 hours a day, seven days a week on this, and I haven’t lost heart yet. But those numbers today really upset me, and I admit it.
I don’t know what we can do but, we just cannot let this guy win.

By: Roger W. Gardner

Roger W. Gardner — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 06:44:25 +0000

Thank you Mosse. I am not anywhere near giving up, but I am concerned. And ignoring these concerns doesn’t give me any comfort. Your words are encouraging though, and I still think we can pull it off.

The coincidental timing of this whole financial crisis stinks to me. Who does it benefit? What party does the average American associate with Wall Street shenanigans? Certainly not the Democrats.

I sure hope we have an October surprise. I’ve heard some good rumors.
Thanks again.
rg

By: Joe Clark

Joe Clark — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 06:38:45 +0000

Man, we’re on the same side here.
Listen, for the uninformed masses, voting against Obama right now is like arguing against global warming. They don’t know who Obama is, they just know that “everybody” is voting for him. I can’t buy a TV commercial or organize a protest, but I *can* wear a McCain t-shirt, post articles and links on my Facebook profile, and make my support for McCain obvious. In sunny LA a lot of people are surprised to hear a sane friend say good things about Republicans. I’d like to think that I’ve convinced some of them: that Obama’s not trustworthy, that McCain isn’t a fundamentalist evangelical Bush clone, that a woman doesn’t have to feel guilty to like Palin. I may be naive, but I really believe that optimism and the confidence that you’ve made the right choice is more convincing than protests and TV ads.

By: MOSSE

MOSSE — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 06:24:09 +0000

Ignore the trolls. We CANNOT give up hope. We can’t. There is no reason to assume that these polls are genuine. This person cannot be allowed to become president and it’s our job to talk to everyone we meet and explain his anti-democratic, anti-rationalist, anti-American positioning and associations to them. Stay together and have facts and sites for them to visit at your fingertips. Keep pulling the plug on this guy. And it’s not impossible that the McCain campaign has an October surprise for US! If they bring out a well-crafted expose using the research we’ve all been working on for months, McCain can slam into first place. Dazzling revelations. People freak out. McCain wins.

Don’t give up. Just…don’t.

By: Dave Peters

Dave Peters — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 05:33:53 +0000

PS One last point

I remember when Mondale debated Reagan in ‘84. Mondale absolutely shredded Reagan in that debate. It was a sight to behold, and Reagan looked like the incompetent he was, but Reagan ended up winning 49 states.

So you are right about one thing: When the country has made up its mind, the debates don’t matter.

By: Dave Peters

Dave Peters — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 05:26:07 +0000

What a load of old rope! Obama socialist? Communist? Give me a break!

There’s not one socialist thing about him. Even Milton Fredman’s boy says he likes him.

You lot really don’t get it. People are sick of your hardcore fundamentalism and telling them, in effect, that they are mostly stupid for wanting to throw out the Republicans was just as pointless as liberals telling them they were stupid for letting Bush get in.

Fr every so called ‘gaffe’ you can point to on Obama’s side I can show you two on McCain’s side, (and I’m not even sure that all of Obama’s gaffes really are all that). The point is that in American politics when one side comprehensively fails, you throw them out. The Republicans have comprehensively failed and they will be thrown out.

The country is in a shambles, mainly because instead of governing from the center as he promised, Bush governed for special interests, and got us into a dumb and expensive war which we’re unable to get ourselves out of but which is costing us thousands of lives and serious injuries, and did nothing about energy independence, and let Pakistan help Osama Bin Laden escape and let Wall Street do whatever it pleased because “the Market Rules OK”. Clinto left us with a surplus and Bush has left us with a debt which will probably be unmanageable.

Bush didn’t just fail liberal America. He failed conservative America too.

Now I don’t yet know for sure whether Obama will do a better job, but it’s hard to imagine he could do a worse job than Bush. At the very least, he will make Americans seem a bit less stupid and a bit more ready to fix problems than make new ones. He seems a decent guy — someone I’d be proud to have as President.

I think it’s disgusting that you are badmouthing him.

And by the way, the mother of that boy whose bracelet Obama talked about says she was proud of the way he handled it ….

By: Roger W. Gardner

Roger W. Gardner — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 05:13:59 +0000

…”right now the best thing we can do is be optimistic and speak with pride about our support for McCain.” That’s “tellin’ it like it is”?
I have just written four damning articles exposing Obama’s ruthless treachery in Iraq and how this major political scandal has been — and will continue to be — buried by our leftist MSM. One of these articles was published by the Chicago Sun Times, and the others all received thousands of readers, one had close to 4,000 readers on my site alone. These articles, and all of those other substantiated and incriminating articles by all of those other authors who have tried their best to expose this charlatan have made no – absolutely no difference to 57% of the American people. And you don’t like me writing about this? Well tough.

Any one of these notorious revelations about any other candidate in recent history would have been the end of the trail. They would be finished politically. But none of this affects Obama.

Whether you want to talk about this or not, this is what we are facing. Calling me names won’t change it. Calling me a defeatist doesn’t bring that fify-seven percent down one point. And if the only strategy you have to combat this travesty of democracy is to “be optimistic and speak with pride about our support for McCain”, then God help us all.