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	<title>Comments on: Old Media Helps Obama Push False Rush Limbaugh Immigration Quotes</title>
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		<title>By: okiemom58</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/09/18/old-media-helps-obama-push-false-rush-limbaugh-immigration-quotes/comment-page-1/#comment-98015</link>
		<dc:creator>okiemom58</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 19:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The way I see it is! People from all walks of life all over the world, each individual really needs to control there tongue people say things then later try to with draw or inprove what they meant or change it all together..Tank god for the media or we would be left in the dark about inportant matters but then again it has become so out of control a person never knows who to believe I got to research everything before I cane even draw any truth this one said that or that one said this a person more or less chases there tail trying to find truth there for EVERYONE DRAWS THERE OWN TRUTH..I for 1 don&#039;t know what to think of this mess all I can say is maybe RUSH needs to slow down before making such strong statements on air and maybe Obama needs not to stir the flame.WHo knows thats just my oppinon for what it matters I think WE all need to remember&gt;&gt;Matthew 15:11 (Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man)
The way I see it were all humans and WE are all going to make mistakes! Let us not forget to mind our tongue it can be a double edge sword~! (Just a thought)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way I see it is! People from all walks of life all over the world, each individual really needs to control there tongue people say things then later try to with draw or inprove what they meant or change it all together..Tank god for the media or we would be left in the dark about inportant matters but then again it has become so out of control a person never knows who to believe I got to research everything before I cane even draw any truth this one said that or that one said this a person more or less chases there tail trying to find truth there for EVERYONE DRAWS THERE OWN TRUTH..I for 1 don&#8217;t know what to think of this mess all I can say is maybe RUSH needs to slow down before making such strong statements on air and maybe Obama needs not to stir the flame.WHo knows thats just my oppinon for what it matters I think WE all need to remember&gt;&gt;Matthew 15:11 (Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man)<br />
The way I see it were all humans and WE are all going to make mistakes! Let us not forget to mind our tongue it can be a double edge sword~! (Just a thought)</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 06:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only a fool or someone who is willfully blind could listen to Limbaugh&#039;s original comments (which appear in a Youtube clip) and believe, as is asserted above, that &quot;Limbaugh successfully proved that his words were widely taken out of context.&quot; In the clip, Limbaugh proposes what he calls &quot;Limbaugh Laws&quot; on immigration and includes in those laws, among other things, the &quot;shut your mouth or get out&quot; principle as one of his proposed laws.  Although he subsequently discloses that these are in substance the same laws that Mexico has for immigrants, he ends up lamenting that this is a double standard and then declares at the end &quot;no mas.&quot;  The only reasonable interpretation of Limbaugh&#039;s &quot;no mas&quot; comment is that he proposes to end the double standard by applying the reciprocal &quot;Limbaugh Laws&quot; (including the &quot;shut up&quot; law) to Mexicans.  Therefore, regardless of the original source of the &quot;Limbaugh Laws,&quot; he was clearly directing his &quot;shut up&quot; comments to Mexican immigrants.  Also, Obama&#039;s attribution to Limbaugh of the &quot;Mexicans are stupid&quot; insult is also a reasonable take on what Limbaugh said.  Limbaugh&#039;s statement on its face is ambiguous and could reasonably be interpreted in at least two different ways.  A speaker cannot expect his listeners to be able to read is mind apart from his words.  &quot;Let stupid and unskilled Mexicans do that work&quot; (Limbaugh&#039;s actual statement) could mean either (i) &quot;let the stupid Mexicans among the mixed population of stupid and brilliant Mexicans do that work&quot; or (ii) &quot;let Mexicans, who are stupid and unskilled people, do that work.&quot;  In fact, although (i) is a possiblity, (ii) seems to me to be the more natural interpretation of Limbaugh&#039;s specific words. When a court seeks to interpret an ambiguous term in a contract (one that could reasonably be interpreted in more than one way), it always adopts the interpretation that is most beneficial to the non-drafting party because it recognizes that the drafting party, which chose the words, is the one who created the ambiguity (irrepective of what the drafting party subjectively intended).  It is only fair that a similar principle be applied to Limbaugh&#039;s words.  If his words don&#039;t clearly reflect what he meant, he has only himself to blame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only a fool or someone who is willfully blind could listen to Limbaugh&#8217;s original comments (which appear in a Youtube clip) and believe, as is asserted above, that &#8220;Limbaugh successfully proved that his words were widely taken out of context.&#8221; In the clip, Limbaugh proposes what he calls &#8220;Limbaugh Laws&#8221; on immigration and includes in those laws, among other things, the &#8220;shut your mouth or get out&#8221; principle as one of his proposed laws.  Although he subsequently discloses that these are in substance the same laws that Mexico has for immigrants, he ends up lamenting that this is a double standard and then declares at the end &#8220;no mas.&#8221;  The only reasonable interpretation of Limbaugh&#8217;s &#8220;no mas&#8221; comment is that he proposes to end the double standard by applying the reciprocal &#8220;Limbaugh Laws&#8221; (including the &#8220;shut up&#8221; law) to Mexicans.  Therefore, regardless of the original source of the &#8220;Limbaugh Laws,&#8221; he was clearly directing his &#8220;shut up&#8221; comments to Mexican immigrants.  Also, Obama&#8217;s attribution to Limbaugh of the &#8220;Mexicans are stupid&#8221; insult is also a reasonable take on what Limbaugh said.  Limbaugh&#8217;s statement on its face is ambiguous and could reasonably be interpreted in at least two different ways.  A speaker cannot expect his listeners to be able to read is mind apart from his words.  &#8220;Let stupid and unskilled Mexicans do that work&#8221; (Limbaugh&#8217;s actual statement) could mean either (i) &#8220;let the stupid Mexicans among the mixed population of stupid and brilliant Mexicans do that work&#8221; or (ii) &#8220;let Mexicans, who are stupid and unskilled people, do that work.&#8221;  In fact, although (i) is a possiblity, (ii) seems to me to be the more natural interpretation of Limbaugh&#8217;s specific words. When a court seeks to interpret an ambiguous term in a contract (one that could reasonably be interpreted in more than one way), it always adopts the interpretation that is most beneficial to the non-drafting party because it recognizes that the drafting party, which chose the words, is the one who created the ambiguity (irrepective of what the drafting party subjectively intended).  It is only fair that a similar principle be applied to Limbaugh&#8217;s words.  If his words don&#8217;t clearly reflect what he meant, he has only himself to blame.</p>
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		<title>By: TonyP</title>
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		<dc:creator>TonyP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 23:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Will the rest of the media remain mum allowing this Obama lie to hang out there unaddressed?&lt;/i&gt;

Don&#039;t be silly. Of course they&#039;ll ignore it. They are so far in the tank for Obama he could jabber like an idiot from now until Nov 4, commit multiple murders and perform an abortion live at the debate and they&#039;d still support him.

The real obnoxious thing about it is if  Obama gets elected and screws up royally (which he will most certainly do), they&#039;ll turn around and blame the Republicans for not doing enough to expose Obama&#039;s short comings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Will the rest of the media remain mum allowing this Obama lie to hang out there unaddressed?</i></p>
<p>Don&#8217;t be silly. Of course they&#8217;ll ignore it. They are so far in the tank for Obama he could jabber like an idiot from now until Nov 4, commit multiple murders and perform an abortion live at the debate and they&#8217;d still support him.</p>
<p>The real obnoxious thing about it is if  Obama gets elected and screws up royally (which he will most certainly do), they&#8217;ll turn around and blame the Republicans for not doing enough to expose Obama&#8217;s short comings.</p>
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		<title>By: nancyb</title>
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		<dc:creator>nancyb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 23:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To: Theenigma47, I couldn&#039;t have said it better.  You are spot on and I&#039;m sure there are millions of other legal American citizens that agree with you.  It is so sad to see what these illegals are doing to our great country.  I don&#039;t understand how our representatives in DC can&#039;t see what&#039;s happening right here before their eyes.  I&#039;m afraid they will wake up one day when it&#039;s too late to do anything about this situation.  It&#039;s getting pretty bad when you watch a Monday night football game and the beer commercials are in Spanish.  What are these people thinking of?  This is the USA not Mexico.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To: Theenigma47, I couldn&#8217;t have said it better.  You are spot on and I&#8217;m sure there are millions of other legal American citizens that agree with you.  It is so sad to see what these illegals are doing to our great country.  I don&#8217;t understand how our representatives in DC can&#8217;t see what&#8217;s happening right here before their eyes.  I&#8217;m afraid they will wake up one day when it&#8217;s too late to do anything about this situation.  It&#8217;s getting pretty bad when you watch a Monday night football game and the beer commercials are in Spanish.  What are these people thinking of?  This is the USA not Mexico.</p>
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		<title>By: TheEnigma47</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/09/18/old-media-helps-obama-push-false-rush-limbaugh-immigration-quotes/comment-page-1/#comment-97926</link>
		<dc:creator>TheEnigma47</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They love our country so much they willingly violate our immigration laws.
They love our country so much they endanger the lives of border patrol agents.
They love our country so much they aide other illegals to enter our country.
They love our country so much they REFUSE to learn our language.
They love our country so much they show constant disrespect for our national symbol, our flag.
They love our country so much they march behind the spixico flag.
They love our country so much they gave up the spixico flag ONLY when advised it was causing ANGER at their behavior.
They love our country so much they look for ways to ways to continually violate our Constitution and laws.
They love our country so much that countless illegals register to vote in OUR elections.
They love our country so much that they are soon becoming the greatest portion of the prison population in states such as California, Arizona and New Mexico.
They love our country so much that when they murder a family due to drunk driving they flee to spixico so they won&#039;t face trial and incarceration.
They love our country so much they commit murder and then run to spixico so they can&#039;t be returned unless the state agrees to take the death penalty off the table.
They love our country so much they bankrupt local hospitals and medical facilities because they REFUSE to pay for the service.
They love our country so much, they take advice from the spixican government on how to enter ILLEGALLY and how to apply for US fiscal assistance.

Yes, we surely need more of these who love our country in such a manner.  Me I prefer a huge border fence with a &quot;dead man&quot; zone on either side, EVEN if that requires stealing land from spixico to create it.  In addition, explosives should be buried at varying depths all along the fence with sound and motion detectors.

If they want to live in this country, then do so LEGALLY, following ALL laws for such entrance and the authority to stay.  If they are here illegally, then throw them out, NOW.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They love our country so much they willingly violate our immigration laws.<br />
They love our country so much they endanger the lives of border patrol agents.<br />
They love our country so much they aide other illegals to enter our country.<br />
They love our country so much they REFUSE to learn our language.<br />
They love our country so much they show constant disrespect for our national symbol, our flag.<br />
They love our country so much they march behind the spixico flag.<br />
They love our country so much they gave up the spixico flag ONLY when advised it was causing ANGER at their behavior.<br />
They love our country so much they look for ways to ways to continually violate our Constitution and laws.<br />
They love our country so much that countless illegals register to vote in OUR elections.<br />
They love our country so much that they are soon becoming the greatest portion of the prison population in states such as California, Arizona and New Mexico.<br />
They love our country so much that when they murder a family due to drunk driving they flee to spixico so they won&#8217;t face trial and incarceration.<br />
They love our country so much they commit murder and then run to spixico so they can&#8217;t be returned unless the state agrees to take the death penalty off the table.<br />
They love our country so much they bankrupt local hospitals and medical facilities because they REFUSE to pay for the service.<br />
They love our country so much, they take advice from the spixican government on how to enter ILLEGALLY and how to apply for US fiscal assistance.</p>
<p>Yes, we surely need more of these who love our country in such a manner.  Me I prefer a huge border fence with a &#8220;dead man&#8221; zone on either side, EVEN if that requires stealing land from spixico to create it.  In addition, explosives should be buried at varying depths all along the fence with sound and motion detectors.</p>
<p>If they want to live in this country, then do so LEGALLY, following ALL laws for such entrance and the authority to stay.  If they are here illegally, then throw them out, NOW.</p>
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		<title>By: Needlenose &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Out of context? I think not&#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Needlenose &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Out of context? I think not&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 19:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Limbaugh out of context.&#8217;  Curious as to what Limbaugh actually expelled, I found the Rush quote in a bit of reactionary apologia: Railing against NAFTA in 1993, Limbaugh said, “If you are unskilled and uneducated, your job is [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Limbaugh out of context.&#8217;  Curious as to what Limbaugh actually expelled, I found the Rush quote in a bit of reactionary apologia: Railing against NAFTA in 1993, Limbaugh said, “If you are unskilled and uneducated, your job is [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Obama Erróneo &#171; Gunservatively!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Obama Erróneo &#171; Gunservatively!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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