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		<title>By: No Dhimmi</title>
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		<dc:creator>No Dhimmi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The problem is Islam. &quot;

Well, THANK GOODNESS SO MANY PEOPLE ARE WAKING UP.

Islam is a pestilence that is destroying the planet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The problem is Islam. &#8221;</p>
<p>Well, THANK GOODNESS SO MANY PEOPLE ARE WAKING UP.</p>
<p>Islam is a pestilence that is destroying the planet.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger W. Gardner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger W. Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 20:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Salaam -- You just don&#039;t get it do you? We&#039;re not buying what you&#039;re selling. Go back to your original homeland and spread the good word about diversity and tolerance. We in the West don&#039;t need your condescending preachments. Perhaps the weak-kneed delusional PC Government in Britain buys into your lies and propaganda, but we do not.
The problems in Britain and throughout Europe regarding their Muslim immigrants have nothing to do with bilingual education. All the liberal concessions in the world will not change the basic fact that the problem is not education, or prejudice, or even assimilation. The problem is Islam. And the problem with Islam is the hate-filled war-mongering Koran. Sorry, but that&#039;s just the way it is. Islam is, was, and always will be the enemy of enlightment and freedom, and will therefore always be the traditional enemy of the Judeo/Christian West. And all of your crafty arguments do nothing to change this historical truth.
When the Islamic countries start opening their first synagogues and Catholic cathedrals, and allowing women equal rights to men, and acknowledge the right of existence of a free and viable Israel, we can begin to talk about diveristy and tolerance. Until that time, save your claptrap for a more gullible audience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salaam &#8212; You just don&#8217;t get it do you? We&#8217;re not buying what you&#8217;re selling. Go back to your original homeland and spread the good word about diversity and tolerance. We in the West don&#8217;t need your condescending preachments. Perhaps the weak-kneed delusional PC Government in Britain buys into your lies and propaganda, but we do not.<br />
The problems in Britain and throughout Europe regarding their Muslim immigrants have nothing to do with bilingual education. All the liberal concessions in the world will not change the basic fact that the problem is not education, or prejudice, or even assimilation. The problem is Islam. And the problem with Islam is the hate-filled war-mongering Koran. Sorry, but that&#8217;s just the way it is. Islam is, was, and always will be the enemy of enlightment and freedom, and will therefore always be the traditional enemy of the Judeo/Christian West. And all of your crafty arguments do nothing to change this historical truth.<br />
When the Islamic countries start opening their first synagogues and Catholic cathedrals, and allowing women equal rights to men, and acknowledge the right of existence of a free and viable Israel, we can begin to talk about diveristy and tolerance. Until that time, save your claptrap for a more gullible audience.</p>
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		<title>By: Iftikhar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iftikhar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 21:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Salaam

I do not blame the parents, Imams and Masajid for the plight of the Muslim 
youths. All Muslim youths suffer from identity crises because they find 
themselves cut off from their cultural roots, literature and poetry. All of 
them lack self-confidence and self-esteem. British education has made them 
stupid. They have become economic slaves of the British society. They do not 
know where they belong. They are unable to enjoy the beauty of their 
literature and poetry. A man is a product of his culture, language and 
faith. They go hand in hand.

The solution of all the problems is state funded Muslim schools with 
bilingual Muslim teachers as role models right from nursery classes. The 
Charter of Islam teaches true tolerance and equality and indeed is more 
acceptable to all people of the world than the United Nation Human Rights 
Charter. Islam does not just mean a beard, a cap and a bunch of 
self-interpreted fatwas.

 Accoding to a research by Goldsmiths, university of London, bilingual 
learning can provide substantial benefits for second and third generation 
children whose families speak a language other than English. Even when 
children have grown up in the UK with English as their stronger language, 
using both languages aids cognitive development and strengthens their 
identity as learners. It is crucial that schools support c hildren&#039;s mother 
tongue through bilingual learning activities connected with the mainstream 
curriculum. Now Primary National Strategy recognises the value of 
bilingualism and promotes early language learning. Policy makers need to 
encourage good practice in schools, otherwise, the potential benefits of 
bilingual leaning will be lost to future generations.

The research also discovered that many second and third generation children 
are in danger of losing these skills if they do not  have opportunities to 
develop their mother tongue through academic work at school. Bilingual 
children who learn in their family&#039;s  language as well as English do better 
at school. It is very important that parents continue to talk to their 
children in their first language.

It is absurd to say that Muslim schools threaten the social cohesion of the 
nation. Diversity is a blessing and we should feel proud of diversity. The 
real threat to social cohesiondoes nt come from Muslim parents but from 
government that seeks to force these parents to conform with the state&#039;s 
ideas about how and what their children should be taught. There is no 
evidence that Muslim schools are undermining social cohesion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salaam</p>
<p>I do not blame the parents, Imams and Masajid for the plight of the Muslim<br />
youths. All Muslim youths suffer from identity crises because they find<br />
themselves cut off from their cultural roots, literature and poetry. All of<br />
them lack self-confidence and self-esteem. British education has made them<br />
stupid. They have become economic slaves of the British society. They do not<br />
know where they belong. They are unable to enjoy the beauty of their<br />
literature and poetry. A man is a product of his culture, language and<br />
faith. They go hand in hand.</p>
<p>The solution of all the problems is state funded Muslim schools with<br />
bilingual Muslim teachers as role models right from nursery classes. The<br />
Charter of Islam teaches true tolerance and equality and indeed is more<br />
acceptable to all people of the world than the United Nation Human Rights<br />
Charter. Islam does not just mean a beard, a cap and a bunch of<br />
self-interpreted fatwas.</p>
<p> Accoding to a research by Goldsmiths, university of London, bilingual<br />
learning can provide substantial benefits for second and third generation<br />
children whose families speak a language other than English. Even when<br />
children have grown up in the UK with English as their stronger language,<br />
using both languages aids cognitive development and strengthens their<br />
identity as learners. It is crucial that schools support c hildren&#8217;s mother<br />
tongue through bilingual learning activities connected with the mainstream<br />
curriculum. Now Primary National Strategy recognises the value of<br />
bilingualism and promotes early language learning. Policy makers need to<br />
encourage good practice in schools, otherwise, the potential benefits of<br />
bilingual leaning will be lost to future generations.</p>
<p>The research also discovered that many second and third generation children<br />
are in danger of losing these skills if they do not  have opportunities to<br />
develop their mother tongue through academic work at school. Bilingual<br />
children who learn in their family&#8217;s  language as well as English do better<br />
at school. It is very important that parents continue to talk to their<br />
children in their first language.</p>
<p>It is absurd to say that Muslim schools threaten the social cohesion of the<br />
nation. Diversity is a blessing and we should feel proud of diversity. The<br />
real threat to social cohesiondoes nt come from Muslim parents but from<br />
government that seeks to force these parents to conform with the state&#8217;s<br />
ideas about how and what their children should be taught. There is no<br />
evidence that Muslim schools are undermining social cohesion.</p>
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		<title>By: Lori</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 16:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am offended.  Have been so &amp; speaking out about it for some time.  Here is the problem....or at least one aspect of it.  I am a Christian and I&#039;ll tell you what I&#039;ve heard when the discussion comes up among many Christians.  Obviously, as anyone who frequents this site would know, there have been lots of attempts (and some successes) by the ACLU, atheists, the gay lobby groups and others to remove Biblical references from our society.  As well as forcing Christians, through law suits &amp; threats of being fired, to perform job functions that they consider sins.  I know that many Christians are afraid to speak out and/or force out the Muslims because they believe this will only embolden the folks who are trying to do the same thing to us.  I personally think that it is going to happen eventually anyway, just like we see in other socialist countries where govt. becomes the Savior and edges out all traces of the ONE true Savior (and I don&#039;t mean Barack).  But anyway, this is the thinking of some Christians I know....shut up &amp; don&#039;t complain about the Muslims....because we&#039;re next.  

Again, I’m sure I don’t have to explain it all to people reading this web site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am offended.  Have been so &amp; speaking out about it for some time.  Here is the problem&#8230;.or at least one aspect of it.  I am a Christian and I&#8217;ll tell you what I&#8217;ve heard when the discussion comes up among many Christians.  Obviously, as anyone who frequents this site would know, there have been lots of attempts (and some successes) by the ACLU, atheists, the gay lobby groups and others to remove Biblical references from our society.  As well as forcing Christians, through law suits &amp; threats of being fired, to perform job functions that they consider sins.  I know that many Christians are afraid to speak out and/or force out the Muslims because they believe this will only embolden the folks who are trying to do the same thing to us.  I personally think that it is going to happen eventually anyway, just like we see in other socialist countries where govt. becomes the Savior and edges out all traces of the ONE true Savior (and I don&#8217;t mean Barack).  But anyway, this is the thinking of some Christians I know&#8230;.shut up &amp; don&#8217;t complain about the Muslims&#8230;.because we&#8217;re next.  </p>
<p>Again, I’m sure I don’t have to explain it all to people reading this web site.</p>
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		<title>By: fouse, gary c</title>
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		<dc:creator>fouse, gary c</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 03:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Abu Huraira reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him….” 


The so-called Haditha (sacred teaching) of Hate is one of the most notorious writings in Islam. It instructs Muslims to kill Jews. One would think that Muslims would try to keep this phrase secret from the rest of the world.

Not so the Muslim Student Association at the University of Southern California, which has even put the haditha up on its campus website. Now, as a result of protests lodged by David Horowitz&#039;s Freedom Center and the Simon Wiesenthal Center, the university&#039;s Provost, Chrysostomos L. Max Nikias, has ordered the MSA to remove the haditha from its website.

I applaud the action by USC. Finally, one university (hardly a conservative bastion) has summoned up the courage to put the MSA in its place, albeit belatedly. This haditha should have been struck down as soon as it appeared. This cannot be considered free speech. It is a call to murder, plain and simple. If this is what USC&#039;s MSA subscribes to, it reveals them to be nothing more than radicals and vicious bigots. This kind of language has no place in American society. Similarly, those Muslims who subscribe to this &quot;teaching&quot; have no place in our society. Decent Muslims who want to gain a place in our society must turn away from this kind of language.

It would be nice to see my own university, (UC-Irvine)take similar measures against the MSU (Muslim Student Union). It would be refreshing to hear UCI&#039;s leaders tell the MSU that speakers who come to our campus and call Jews &quot;low-life ghetto dwellers&quot; (Imam Mohammed Al-Asi), glorify acts of mass murder by suicide bombers in Israel (Amir Abdel Malik Ali) and displays that depict Jews with hooked noses, thick lips and leering gazes are not going to be tolerated any longer at UCI. Don&#039;t hold your breath. The cowards who run UCI have, up until now, not summoned up the courage to confront the MSU and their vicious speakers. In fact, the MSU receives funding from UCI in the form of money taken from student tuition fees. The May 2008&quot;Palestine Awareness Week&quot; was funded by UCI to the tune of $6,500, according to Frontpage Magazine. Thus, UCI supplies funding to MSU to bring in hate mongering speakers and erect racist, anti-Semitic displays that denigrate Jews. 

So it will be up to the rest of us to bring the public&#039;s attention to what is going on in academia. David Horowitz&#039;s Freedom Center, for one, will be putting on a &quot;Stop the Jihad on Campus Week&quot;, which will occur during the week of October 13-17, 2008. Public attention must be brought to the actions and words of these various MSA&#039;s across the nation. Hopefully, the public can demand that universities crack down on hate speech on their campuses.

gary fouse
fousesquawk</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Abu Huraira reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him….” </p>
<p>The so-called Haditha (sacred teaching) of Hate is one of the most notorious writings in Islam. It instructs Muslims to kill Jews. One would think that Muslims would try to keep this phrase secret from the rest of the world.</p>
<p>Not so the Muslim Student Association at the University of Southern California, which has even put the haditha up on its campus website. Now, as a result of protests lodged by David Horowitz&#8217;s Freedom Center and the Simon Wiesenthal Center, the university&#8217;s Provost, Chrysostomos L. Max Nikias, has ordered the MSA to remove the haditha from its website.</p>
<p>I applaud the action by USC. Finally, one university (hardly a conservative bastion) has summoned up the courage to put the MSA in its place, albeit belatedly. This haditha should have been struck down as soon as it appeared. This cannot be considered free speech. It is a call to murder, plain and simple. If this is what USC&#8217;s MSA subscribes to, it reveals them to be nothing more than radicals and vicious bigots. This kind of language has no place in American society. Similarly, those Muslims who subscribe to this &#8220;teaching&#8221; have no place in our society. Decent Muslims who want to gain a place in our society must turn away from this kind of language.</p>
<p>It would be nice to see my own university, (UC-Irvine)take similar measures against the MSU (Muslim Student Union). It would be refreshing to hear UCI&#8217;s leaders tell the MSU that speakers who come to our campus and call Jews &#8220;low-life ghetto dwellers&#8221; (Imam Mohammed Al-Asi), glorify acts of mass murder by suicide bombers in Israel (Amir Abdel Malik Ali) and displays that depict Jews with hooked noses, thick lips and leering gazes are not going to be tolerated any longer at UCI. Don&#8217;t hold your breath. The cowards who run UCI have, up until now, not summoned up the courage to confront the MSU and their vicious speakers. In fact, the MSU receives funding from UCI in the form of money taken from student tuition fees. The May 2008&#8243;Palestine Awareness Week&#8221; was funded by UCI to the tune of $6,500, according to Frontpage Magazine. Thus, UCI supplies funding to MSU to bring in hate mongering speakers and erect racist, anti-Semitic displays that denigrate Jews. </p>
<p>So it will be up to the rest of us to bring the public&#8217;s attention to what is going on in academia. David Horowitz&#8217;s Freedom Center, for one, will be putting on a &#8220;Stop the Jihad on Campus Week&#8221;, which will occur during the week of October 13-17, 2008. Public attention must be brought to the actions and words of these various MSA&#8217;s across the nation. Hopefully, the public can demand that universities crack down on hate speech on their campuses.</p>
<p>gary fouse<br />
fousesquawk</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 01:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They teach Sharia in those schools. That includes the obligation of Jihad. To understand this you need to read Reliance of the Traveler, Book O.9.8 and the succeeding paragraph.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They teach Sharia in those schools. That includes the obligation of Jihad. To understand this you need to read Reliance of the Traveler, Book O.9.8 and the succeeding paragraph.</p>
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