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	<title>Comments on: Obama Hits a Wall! Will Media Highlight MAJOR Obama Gaffe in Berlin Speech?</title>
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	<description>Beating Them With Their Own Sickle And Hammer</description>
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		<title>By: Connect the Dots 2006</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/07/25/obama-hits-a-wall-will-media-highlight-major-obama-gaffe-in-berlin-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-92514</link>
		<dc:creator>Connect the Dots 2006</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 12:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thinker, 

It&#039;s not just one gaffe, but the dozens (hundreds?) the obamessiah has made that cause us so much concern about the empty suit. Gee, why should someone trying to be the leader of the free world worry about accuracy?

Sorry, no pass here. If a Conservative or GW would make such a gaffe, it would be ALL OVER the Leftmedia for days on end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thinker, </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not just one gaffe, but the dozens (hundreds?) the obamessiah has made that cause us so much concern about the empty suit. Gee, why should someone trying to be the leader of the free world worry about accuracy?</p>
<p>Sorry, no pass here. If a Conservative or GW would make such a gaffe, it would be ALL OVER the Leftmedia for days on end.</p>
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		<title>By: Despicable Liberal Media &#171; Thespis Journal</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/07/25/obama-hits-a-wall-will-media-highlight-major-obama-gaffe-in-berlin-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-92476</link>
		<dc:creator>Despicable Liberal Media &#171; Thespis Journal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Update: Check out Stop the ACLU. A Blog for All. A Moonbat take on the situation. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Update: Check out Stop the ACLU. A Blog for All. A Moonbat take on the situation. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: No More Mr. Nice Guy!</title>
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		<dc:creator>No More Mr. Nice Guy!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;All Obama, all the time...&lt;/strong&gt;

The corporatist media&#039;s coverage of this election season gets infinitely stupider every day. Currentl......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>All Obama, all the time&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>The corporatist media&#8217;s coverage of this election season gets infinitely stupider every day. Currentl&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Thinker</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/07/25/obama-hits-a-wall-will-media-highlight-major-obama-gaffe-in-berlin-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-92463</link>
		<dc:creator>Thinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your objections are off-base for two reasons.  First of all, he was referring to walls in both a literal and a metaphorical sense.  The Berlin Wall is an obvious literal reference.  South Africa and the Balkans were more of a metaphorical reference.  In Belfast, his reference could be taken either way.  But it is clear that the deadly fighting in Belfast has decreased.  So he is completely justified in lumping all of these situations together and to state that the walls have come down.  The literal and metaphorical walls might not be 100% gone, but we&#039;ve made good progress.

The second flaw in your article is that you are labeling this as a MAJOR! gaffe.  Although I disagree with your assessment that he made a factual mistake, I&#039;ll set that aside for the moment.  He was making a point about how we should come together.  In support of this point he listed a few success stories.  If one of his success stories is incorrect, then he&#039;s made a small error.  The appropriate response would be for him to say &quot;oops&quot;.  Nothing more.

However, if he had been using Belfast as a central point to his speech (which he wasn&#039;t) and if he had used it as an example of how we should take some sort of drastic action (which he wasn&#039;t), then we should expect him to be clear and flawless regarding Belfast.

You&#039;re entitled to your opinion about Obama.  But when you allow your dislike for him to distort your reasoning abilities, then that&#039;s a problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your objections are off-base for two reasons.  First of all, he was referring to walls in both a literal and a metaphorical sense.  The Berlin Wall is an obvious literal reference.  South Africa and the Balkans were more of a metaphorical reference.  In Belfast, his reference could be taken either way.  But it is clear that the deadly fighting in Belfast has decreased.  So he is completely justified in lumping all of these situations together and to state that the walls have come down.  The literal and metaphorical walls might not be 100% gone, but we&#8217;ve made good progress.</p>
<p>The second flaw in your article is that you are labeling this as a MAJOR! gaffe.  Although I disagree with your assessment that he made a factual mistake, I&#8217;ll set that aside for the moment.  He was making a point about how we should come together.  In support of this point he listed a few success stories.  If one of his success stories is incorrect, then he&#8217;s made a small error.  The appropriate response would be for him to say &#8220;oops&#8221;.  Nothing more.</p>
<p>However, if he had been using Belfast as a central point to his speech (which he wasn&#8217;t) and if he had used it as an example of how we should take some sort of drastic action (which he wasn&#8217;t), then we should expect him to be clear and flawless regarding Belfast.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re entitled to your opinion about Obama.  But when you allow your dislike for him to distort your reasoning abilities, then that&#8217;s a problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep up the blogging.  Eventually the media will have to report on this...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep up the blogging.  Eventually the media will have to report on this&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: A Blog For All</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Blog For All</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Doing the Job the Media Wont Do...&lt;/strong&gt;

It would be nice to see the media do this, but they&#039;re frankly too engrossed in the halo to notice that it&#039;s nothing but a strategically positioned kleig light that is supposed to blind the clueless and incurious....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Doing the Job the Media Wont Do&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>It would be nice to see the media do this, but they&#8217;re frankly too engrossed in the halo to notice that it&#8217;s nothing but a strategically positioned kleig light that is supposed to blind the clueless and incurious&#8230;.</p>
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