Comments on: Muslim job applicant: Hire me or else – http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/06/18/muslim-job-applicant-hire-me-or-else/ Beating Them With Their Own Sickle And Hammer Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:24:34 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.2 hourly 1 By: Roger W. Gardner http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/06/18/muslim-job-applicant-hire-me-or-else/comment-page-1/#comment-88984 Roger W. Gardner Fri, 20 Jun 2008 21:19:33 +0000 http://www.stoptheaclu.com/?p=8845#comment-88984 Exactly Angie. Thank you. rg Exactly Angie. Thank you.
rg

]]> By: Angie http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/06/18/muslim-job-applicant-hire-me-or-else/comment-page-1/#comment-88983 Angie Fri, 20 Jun 2008 20:22:16 +0000 http://www.stoptheaclu.com/?p=8845#comment-88983 Well, she's got a system down now, she can just interview all over and sue anyone who refuses to hire her (or does hire her and then fires her for any reason), claiming discrimination and "hurt feelings." She'll never have to WORK again. My feelings have been hurt more times than I can count, by family, friends, coworkers, employers, and even government agencies. Maybe I'm in the wrong line of work, actually being PRODUCTIVE, when I could just sue for all that mental anguish I've suffered and sit on my rump collecting a payday. Ahhhhh..... the New American Dream..... The actions of this girl make me sick. She can't get a job and gets "depressed," so she lashes out at the easiest target. That's my opinion on what happened here, not that she was feeling hurt about her veil in the workplace but just that she was depressed about being unemployed. Did she sue all the other previous companies who declined to hire her, presumably for the same reason? Although that's not indicated in the article, it's unlikely she did or it would have been documented; that she did not sue all the prior prospective employers proves to me this was not about discrimination or even hurt feelings but about her own inner incapacity to deal with stressors like being unemployed. Well, she’s got a system down now, she can just interview all over and sue anyone who refuses to hire her (or does hire her and then fires her for any reason), claiming discrimination and “hurt feelings.” She’ll never have to WORK again.

My feelings have been hurt more times than I can count, by family, friends, coworkers, employers, and even government agencies. Maybe I’m in the wrong line of work, actually being PRODUCTIVE, when I could just sue for all that mental anguish I’ve suffered and sit on my rump collecting a payday. Ahhhhh….. the New American Dream…..

The actions of this girl make me sick. She can’t get a job and gets “depressed,” so she lashes out at the easiest target. That’s my opinion on what happened here, not that she was feeling hurt about her veil in the workplace but just that she was depressed about being unemployed. Did she sue all the other previous companies who declined to hire her, presumably for the same reason? Although that’s not indicated in the article, it’s unlikely she did or it would have been documented; that she did not sue all the prior prospective employers proves to me this was not about discrimination or even hurt feelings but about her own inner incapacity to deal with stressors like being unemployed.

]]> By: Roger W. Gardner http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/06/18/muslim-job-applicant-hire-me-or-else/comment-page-1/#comment-88856 Roger W. Gardner Thu, 19 Jun 2008 19:07:12 +0000 http://www.stoptheaclu.com/?p=8845#comment-88856 Kerwin -- "From what I see she is fairly moderate." From what I see you are fairly wrong. It is precisely about Muslims forcing their beliefs on others. rg Kerwin —
“From what I see she is fairly moderate.”
From what I see you are fairly wrong. It is precisely about Muslims forcing their beliefs on others.
rg

]]> By: Kerwin http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/06/18/muslim-job-applicant-hire-me-or-else/comment-page-1/#comment-88774 Kerwin Thu, 19 Jun 2008 05:50:05 +0000 http://www.stoptheaclu.com/?p=8845#comment-88774 In America Bushra Noah would be covered by the Civil Rights Act with no trouble at all as prejudice in hiring based on religious practices is definitely a violation if reasonable accommodations can be made. About the only question there would be is if Congress has the actual jurisdiction to regulate the behavior of businesses in the boundaries of a state. Contrary to the claims here though this is not about Muslim forcing their beliefs on others but rather it is about a Muslim being allowed to practice her own beliefs i.e. wearing a head scarf. From what I see she is fairly moderate. In America Bushra Noah would be covered by the Civil Rights Act with no trouble at all as prejudice in hiring based on religious practices is definitely a violation if reasonable accommodations can be made. About the only question there would be is if Congress has the actual jurisdiction to regulate the behavior of businesses in the boundaries of a state. Contrary to the claims here though this is not about Muslim forcing their beliefs on others but rather it is about a Muslim being allowed to practice her own beliefs i.e. wearing a head scarf. From what I see she is fairly moderate.

]]> By: Roger W. Gardner http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/06/18/muslim-job-applicant-hire-me-or-else/comment-page-1/#comment-88761 Roger W. Gardner Thu, 19 Jun 2008 03:47:58 +0000 http://www.stoptheaclu.com/?p=8845#comment-88761 And here's a copy of an email I just sent to the Promotion Department of the Dail Mail: Re: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1027300/How-I-driven-brink-ruin-refusing-hire-Muslim-hair-stylist-wouldnt-hair.html I am an American blogger who has posted two articles about this story. One of my commenters wanted to know if there was any way they could help Ms. Desrosiers through a Paypal account. Obviously, I don't have the answer to that question, but perhaps you do. Furthermore, it occured to me that the Daily Mail might want to set up some kind of fund to help Ms. Desrosiers. Isn't it about time that you Londoners started looking after you own? Respectfully, Roger W. Gardner http://radarsite.blogspot.com/ Boston, MA And here’s a copy of an email I just sent to the Promotion Department of the Dail Mail:

Re:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1027300/How-I-driven-brink-ruin-refusing-hire-Muslim-hair-stylist-wouldnt-hair.html

I am an American blogger who has posted two articles about this story. One of my commenters wanted to know if there was any way they could help Ms. Desrosiers through a Paypal account.
Obviously, I don’t have the answer to that question, but perhaps you do.
Furthermore, it occured to me that the Daily Mail might want to set up some kind of fund to help Ms. Desrosiers. Isn’t it about time that you Londoners started looking after you own?

Respectfully,
Roger W. Gardner
http://radarsite.blogspot.com/
Boston, MA

]]> By: Roger W. Gardner http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/06/18/muslim-job-applicant-hire-me-or-else/comment-page-1/#comment-88758 Roger W. Gardner Thu, 19 Jun 2008 03:25:35 +0000 http://www.stoptheaclu.com/?p=8845#comment-88758 Here is a copy af an email I just sent to the Unilever Corp. I believe they are one of the largest suppliers to hair salons in Britain: Dear Unilever -- Hello, I am an American blogger(http://radarsite.blogspot.com/ ), my name is Roger W. Gardner. I just wrote an article for Stop the ACLU.com, a popular American website. It concerns the legal difficulties of a London hairderesser who may be losing her business due to a frivilous and outrageous lawsuit brought by a Muslim woman who feels that she was discriminated against because of her veil. One of the commenters to my story wanted to know if there was any way she could help Ms. Desrosiers finacially, and I am trying to see what I can do about that. In the meantime, however, it occured to me that you just might be willing to help. If I am not mistaken, you have a definite relationship with British hairdressers, and might be tempted to help one of them who needs it. This case -- as you probably already know -- has garnered worldwide attention, and I feel that it would be a wonderful gesture on your part to reach out to this beleaguered hairdresser. Other than writing about it, and deeply caring about the issues involved, I have no personal interest in this matter. However, if you do decide to help, I promise to write a follow up article about your generosity and place it in as many US venues as possible. Please read my article and let me know if you feel it is a cause that you would like to take up. I think that you would generate a lot of good publicity for a very worthy cause. Here is the article: http://www.stoptheaclu.com/archives/2008/06/18/muslim-job-applicant-hire-me-or-else/ Thank you for your time, Respectfully, Roger W. Gardner Radarsite Boston, MA USA Here is a copy af an email I just sent to the Unilever Corp. I believe they are one of the largest suppliers to hair salons in Britain:

Dear Unilever –
Hello, I am an American blogger(http://radarsite.blogspot.com/ ),
my name is Roger W. Gardner. I just wrote an article for Stop the ACLU.com, a popular American website. It concerns the legal difficulties of a London hairderesser who may be losing her business due to a frivilous and outrageous lawsuit brought by a Muslim woman who feels that she was discriminated against because of her veil.

One of the commenters to my story wanted to know if there was any way she could help Ms. Desrosiers finacially, and I am trying to see what I can do about that.

In the meantime, however, it occured to me that you just might be willing to help. If I am not mistaken, you have a definite relationship with British hairdressers, and might be tempted to help one of them who needs it.

This case — as you probably already know — has garnered worldwide attention, and I feel that it would be a wonderful gesture on your part to reach out to this beleaguered hairdresser.

Other than writing about it, and deeply caring about the issues involved, I have no personal interest in this matter.
However, if you do decide to help, I promise to write a follow up article about your generosity and place it in as many US venues as possible.

Please read my article and let me know if you feel it is a cause that you would like to take up. I think that you would generate a lot of good publicity for a very worthy cause.
Here is the article: http://www.stoptheaclu.com/archives/2008/06/18/muslim-job-applicant-hire-me-or-else/
Thank you for your time,
Respectfully,
Roger W. Gardner
Radarsite
Boston, MA USA

]]> By: Lori http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/06/18/muslim-job-applicant-hire-me-or-else/comment-page-1/#comment-88746 Lori Thu, 19 Jun 2008 02:05:55 +0000 http://www.stoptheaclu.com/?p=8845#comment-88746 Roger, if you get any further info, and feel you would rather not post it publicly, where can I contact you? I went to your website but could not find your email on the "bio page". Thanks, Lori Roger, if you get any further info, and feel you would rather not post it publicly, where can I contact you? I went to your website but could not find your email on the “bio page”.

Thanks,
Lori

]]> By: Roger W. Gardner http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/06/18/muslim-job-applicant-hire-me-or-else/comment-page-1/#comment-88732 Roger W. Gardner Thu, 19 Jun 2008 01:09:51 +0000 http://www.stoptheaclu.com/?p=8845#comment-88732 To Lori -- Here is a copy of the comment I left to the Daily Mail. Whatever info I get I'll leave in another comment to this post. People like yourself make writing articles for blogs worthwhile. rg "After cross posting this moving story to Stop The ACLU, a popular American website, I received a reply from a generous commenter who would like to contribute to Sarah's cause. Can you help with this? You may feel free to email me. Thanks. Roger W. Gardner" To Lori — Here is a copy of the comment I left to the Daily Mail. Whatever info I get I’ll leave in another comment to this post.
People like yourself make writing articles for blogs worthwhile. rg

“After cross posting this moving story to Stop The ACLU, a popular American website, I received a reply from a generous commenter who would like to contribute to Sarah’s cause.
Can you help with this?
You may feel free to email me.
Thanks.
Roger W. Gardner”

]]> By: Roger W. Gardner http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/06/18/muslim-job-applicant-hire-me-or-else/comment-page-1/#comment-88730 Roger W. Gardner Thu, 19 Jun 2008 00:46:19 +0000 http://www.stoptheaclu.com/?p=8845#comment-88730 Thank you both Lori and Rob. To Lori -- all I have is this: "her salon - Wedge - located in north London". I'll see if I can find out anything more. I must say, that is damn nice of you. rg Thank you both Lori and Rob.
To Lori — all I have is this:
“her salon – Wedge – located in north London”. I’ll see if I can find out anything more.
I must say, that is damn nice of you.
rg

]]> By: Rob http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/06/18/muslim-job-applicant-hire-me-or-else/comment-page-1/#comment-88727 Rob Thu, 19 Jun 2008 00:37:13 +0000 http://www.stoptheaclu.com/?p=8845#comment-88727 I lived in England for 5 years and used to think that France would become the first Muslim state in Europe, but everytime I go back and read stories like this I think that England will go first. It is no longer the England I loved. What happened to the gutsy rebelious people I know and love. Screw GOD SAVE THE QUEEN. GOD SAVE ENGLAND! I lived in England for 5 years and used to think that France would become the first Muslim state in Europe, but everytime I go back and read stories like this I think that England will go first. It is no longer the England I loved. What happened to the gutsy rebelious people I know and love.

Screw GOD SAVE THE QUEEN. GOD SAVE ENGLAND!

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