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	<title>Comments on: Bloggers versus the AP</title>
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	<description>Beating Them With Their Own Sickle And Hammer</description>
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		<title>By: Decidenator</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/06/18/bloggers-versus-the-ap/comment-page-1/#comment-88713</link>
		<dc:creator>Decidenator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 20:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Amusing how the NYT gets in a shot at Matt Drudge. They hate it that he has a bigger readership than they do.&quot;

What is the shot they took at him?  And where did you get the idea that Drudge has more readers than the NYT?  That&#039;s ridiculous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Amusing how the NYT gets in a shot at Matt Drudge. They hate it that he has a bigger readership than they do.&#8221;</p>
<p>What is the shot they took at him?  And where did you get the idea that Drudge has more readers than the NYT?  That&#8217;s ridiculous.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Incredible</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/06/18/bloggers-versus-the-ap/comment-page-1/#comment-88703</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Incredible</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 15:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Further...

What AP reports is of public interest and debate.  Its very job is open to debate.

So, AP can stop nobody, as long, as I say, as the writer attributes AP-written and originated material to AP.  Quotes of individuals within the story written by AP can be attributed to the speaker alone, unless you play an AP recording of it.  Then, you gotta give AP credit cuz copyright goes to form, and the recording is the AP form.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Further&#8230;</p>
<p>What AP reports is of public interest and debate.  Its very job is open to debate.</p>
<p>So, AP can stop nobody, as long, as I say, as the writer attributes AP-written and originated material to AP.  Quotes of individuals within the story written by AP can be attributed to the speaker alone, unless you play an AP recording of it.  Then, you gotta give AP credit cuz copyright goes to form, and the recording is the AP form.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Incredible</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/06/18/bloggers-versus-the-ap/comment-page-1/#comment-88701</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Incredible</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 15:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AP cannot stop anybody from quoting AP-written material, as long as there is attribution.  Example:  &quot;AP reports...&quot;

Where AP quotes somebody, a blogger can quote that body directly, without AP attribution, cuz the quote is a fact apart from AP.  A blogger doesn&#039;t have to write, &quot;This guy told AP....&quot;  The blogger can say, &quot;This guy said...&quot;

However, when you use a recording of the person AP interviews, you are using the FORM and you are required to credit AP.  Copyright goes to form, not content, and certainly not to stream of consciousness statements.  That&#039;s why, when using a recording of &quot;Meet the Press,&quot; another network has to credit NBC.  However, if I quote what James &quot;the Snake&quot; Carville said on MtP, I don&#039;t have to say that he said it on MtP cuz NBC has nothing to do with his statement.  Carville&#039;s form is his, not NBC&#039;s.

By the way, where universities and colleges say that professors&#039; teachings in class are copyrighted, that&#039;s not true cuz stream of consciousness cannot be copyrighted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AP cannot stop anybody from quoting AP-written material, as long as there is attribution.  Example:  &#8220;AP reports&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Where AP quotes somebody, a blogger can quote that body directly, without AP attribution, cuz the quote is a fact apart from AP.  A blogger doesn&#8217;t have to write, &#8220;This guy told AP&#8230;.&#8221;  The blogger can say, &#8220;This guy said&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>However, when you use a recording of the person AP interviews, you are using the FORM and you are required to credit AP.  Copyright goes to form, not content, and certainly not to stream of consciousness statements.  That&#8217;s why, when using a recording of &#8220;Meet the Press,&#8221; another network has to credit NBC.  However, if I quote what James &#8220;the Snake&#8221; Carville said on MtP, I don&#8217;t have to say that he said it on MtP cuz NBC has nothing to do with his statement.  Carville&#8217;s form is his, not NBC&#8217;s.</p>
<p>By the way, where universities and colleges say that professors&#8217; teachings in class are copyrighted, that&#8217;s not true cuz stream of consciousness cannot be copyrighted.</p>
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		<title>By: The Associated Press versus bloggers&#8230; &#171; American Sentinel</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/06/18/bloggers-versus-the-ap/comment-page-1/#comment-88697</link>
		<dc:creator>The Associated Press versus bloggers&#8230; &#171; American Sentinel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 14:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] June 18, 2008 &#183; No Comments  Yes, there is a battle brewing.  Certainly, there are bloggers who go well beyond the traditional fair use of quoting a few sentences, which is rather vague, and posting entire stories should be avoided.  Still there is something disingenuous about the AP going after people who so actively draw attention to their stories.  Isn&#8217;t this what they want, after all?  Links and discussion is what drives the Internet. Read more at Stop the ACLU [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] June 18, 2008 &middot; No Comments  Yes, there is a battle brewing.  Certainly, there are bloggers who go well beyond the traditional fair use of quoting a few sentences, which is rather vague, and posting entire stories should be avoided.  Still there is something disingenuous about the AP going after people who so actively draw attention to their stories.  Isn&#8217;t this what they want, after all?  Links and discussion is what drives the Internet. Read more at Stop the ACLU [...]</p>
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