<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Why Aren&#8217;t We Impeaching Some Supreme Court Justices?</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/06/17/why-arent-we-impeaching-some-supreme-court-justices/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/06/17/why-arent-we-impeaching-some-supreme-court-justices/</link>
	<description>Beating Them With Their Own Sickle And Hammer</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 03:01:57 -0500</lastBuildDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.2</generator>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
		<item>
		<title>By: bin Laden allowed access to US Civilian Courts - Truckingboards Truck Drivers Forum</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/06/17/why-arent-we-impeaching-some-supreme-court-justices/comment-page-1/#comment-89142</link>
		<dc:creator>bin Laden allowed access to US Civilian Courts - Truckingboards Truck Drivers Forum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 14:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.stoptheaclu.com/?p=8839#comment-89142</guid>
		<description>[...] if only Senate had any balls, oh I forgot, the majority (DEms) think this was a great idea.   Why Aren?t We Impeaching Some Supreme Court Justices? : Stop The ACLU   [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] if only Senate had any balls, oh I forgot, the majority (DEms) think this was a great idea.   Why Aren?t We Impeaching Some Supreme Court Justices? : Stop The ACLU   [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Rosemary's Thoughts</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/06/17/why-arent-we-impeaching-some-supreme-court-justices/comment-page-1/#comment-89020</link>
		<dc:creator>Rosemary's Thoughts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 06:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.stoptheaclu.com/?p=8839#comment-89020</guid>
		<description>&lt;strong&gt;SCOTUS does not reign supreme...&lt;/strong&gt;

Many people are upset with the Thursday, June 12, 2008, decision that would allow for first time in American history (and 500 years of Common Law history) the right to a writ of habeas corpus for our enemy while in the midst of a war...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>SCOTUS does not reign supreme&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Many people are upset with the Thursday, June 12, 2008, decision that would allow for first time in American history (and 500 years of Common Law history) the right to a writ of habeas corpus for our enemy while in the midst of a war&#8230;</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: DaMan</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/06/17/why-arent-we-impeaching-some-supreme-court-justices/comment-page-1/#comment-88712</link>
		<dc:creator>DaMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 19:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.stoptheaclu.com/?p=8839#comment-88712</guid>
		<description>The solution to this communist judgment by communist judges is simple. Simply take no prisoners.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The solution to this communist judgment by communist judges is simple. Simply take no prisoners.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Jeff Molby</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/06/17/why-arent-we-impeaching-some-supreme-court-justices/comment-page-1/#comment-88704</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Molby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 15:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.stoptheaclu.com/?p=8839#comment-88704</guid>
		<description>Smarty, 

You can make a case for those distinctions, as the dissent did. You can also make a case against them, as the majority did. 

If you look back at my original post and lobo&#039;s response to it, you&#039;ll see that my only goal was simply to refute the erroneous distinction between &quot;citizen&quot; and &quot;non-citizen&quot;. The Constitution clearly covers a great many non-citizens, so one should take the time to sort through various categories of non-citizens rather than making blanket statements.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smarty, </p>
<p>You can make a case for those distinctions, as the dissent did. You can also make a case against them, as the majority did. </p>
<p>If you look back at my original post and lobo&#8217;s response to it, you&#8217;ll see that my only goal was simply to refute the erroneous distinction between &#8220;citizen&#8221; and &#8220;non-citizen&#8221;. The Constitution clearly covers a great many non-citizens, so one should take the time to sort through various categories of non-citizens rather than making blanket statements.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: No Runny Eggs &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Morning Scramble - 6/18/2008</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/06/17/why-arent-we-impeaching-some-supreme-court-justices/comment-page-1/#comment-88698</link>
		<dc:creator>No Runny Eggs &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Morning Scramble - 6/18/2008</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 14:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.stoptheaclu.com/?p=8839#comment-88698</guid>
		<description>[...] brief respite from the Obamination; Jay asks why we&#8217;re not impeaching the Lawgivers-In-Black that gave Islamokazis captured on the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] brief respite from the Obamination; Jay asks why we&#8217;re not impeaching the Lawgivers-In-Black that gave Islamokazis captured on the [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Smarty</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/06/17/why-arent-we-impeaching-some-supreme-court-justices/comment-page-1/#comment-88696</link>
		<dc:creator>Smarty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 13:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.stoptheaclu.com/?p=8839#comment-88696</guid>
		<description>Jeff, make sure you distinguish between US citizens vs. foreigners, and between people who committed crimes on US soil vs. foreign soil, and people who were captured on US vs. foreign soil.

Besides, non-uniformed combatants in a war zone are subject to execution in the field, according the the Geneva Convention. Any mercy extended to them afterwards should not be subject to the courts.

I guess the answer is to just not take any prisoners.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff, make sure you distinguish between US citizens vs. foreigners, and between people who committed crimes on US soil vs. foreign soil, and people who were captured on US vs. foreign soil.</p>
<p>Besides, non-uniformed combatants in a war zone are subject to execution in the field, according the the Geneva Convention. Any mercy extended to them afterwards should not be subject to the courts.</p>
<p>I guess the answer is to just not take any prisoners.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Smarty</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/06/17/why-arent-we-impeaching-some-supreme-court-justices/comment-page-1/#comment-88695</link>
		<dc:creator>Smarty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 13:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.stoptheaclu.com/?p=8839#comment-88695</guid>
		<description>All 5 judges need to be impeached, or tarred and feathered, literally. This is tyranny, and it is a good point that if this stands, if the other branches limit their objections to impotent whining before the same court, it constitutes an entire gov&#039;t that is acting out of control. But then the Sandy Berger plea bargain and the fact that he was never put on the lie detector tells us already that the administration lacks the will to do it&#039;s job. Congress of course is so out of control that if every member was tarred and feathered and evicted by force from their offices, we would be better off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All 5 judges need to be impeached, or tarred and feathered, literally. This is tyranny, and it is a good point that if this stands, if the other branches limit their objections to impotent whining before the same court, it constitutes an entire gov&#8217;t that is acting out of control. But then the Sandy Berger plea bargain and the fact that he was never put on the lie detector tells us already that the administration lacks the will to do it&#8217;s job. Congress of course is so out of control that if every member was tarred and feathered and evicted by force from their offices, we would be better off.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Jeff Molby</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/06/17/why-arent-we-impeaching-some-supreme-court-justices/comment-page-1/#comment-88694</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Molby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 13:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.stoptheaclu.com/?p=8839#comment-88694</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
Given our relatively long history of civil and military law - why are so many people fuzzy on “Habeas corpus” in context of military law, yet same people are so crystal clear on military law and “Posse Comitatus”?

In the same vein; why was the importance of ’stare decisis’ and precedent, given such widespread coverage and so thoroughly discussed on the net and MSM during the SC nomination process for both Roberts and Alito, and yet noticeably absent concerning this latest decision?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Do you actually expect me to answer such vague questions? What is it you really want to know? 

&lt;blockquote&gt;Do you have any clear evidence of ‘original’ intent to extend habeas corpus to this country’s enemies? Any cases of it being done in the past?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Your choice of the word &quot;enemies&quot; was mistake. We have granted full due process to the Rosenbergs, Timothy McVeigh, Jose Padilla, and many more, I&#039;m sure. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;Then refute it with facts. Any reasonably intelligent person is capable of understanding “We the people of the United States” and “secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity”.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Look at the context of those words. They comprise the preamble and state who is creating document (and by extension, the nation) and why they are doing so. Those particular words shed no light on who exactly the document applies to. 

Intent can be deciphered by examining the words that are included &lt;em&gt;and&lt;/em&gt; omitted.  If we scan further down, we see a section on the qualifications for officeholders. It distinguishes between citizens and non-citizens. If your interpretation was correct, making such a distinction would have been superfluous. Yet we must assume that every written word was chosen for a reason unless there is very clear reason to do otherwise. If we don&#039;t lend great weight to each chosen word, you give the courts far more ability to legislate from the bench than you are currently accusing them of. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;Are these “persons” you are referring to, serving on our juries, voting in our elections, paying our taxes?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Some, but not all. Regardless, the Constitution is merely a framework and does not get into the such details; they were left for Congress to decide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>
Given our relatively long history of civil and military law &#8211; why are so many people fuzzy on “Habeas corpus” in context of military law, yet same people are so crystal clear on military law and “Posse Comitatus”?</p>
<p>In the same vein; why was the importance of ’stare decisis’ and precedent, given such widespread coverage and so thoroughly discussed on the net and MSM during the SC nomination process for both Roberts and Alito, and yet noticeably absent concerning this latest decision?</p></blockquote>
<p>Do you actually expect me to answer such vague questions? What is it you really want to know? </p>
<blockquote><p>Do you have any clear evidence of ‘original’ intent to extend habeas corpus to this country’s enemies? Any cases of it being done in the past?</p></blockquote>
<p>Your choice of the word &#8220;enemies&#8221; was mistake. We have granted full due process to the Rosenbergs, Timothy McVeigh, Jose Padilla, and many more, I&#8217;m sure. </p>
<blockquote><p>Then refute it with facts. Any reasonably intelligent person is capable of understanding “We the people of the United States” and “secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity”.</p></blockquote>
<p>Look at the context of those words. They comprise the preamble and state who is creating document (and by extension, the nation) and why they are doing so. Those particular words shed no light on who exactly the document applies to. </p>
<p>Intent can be deciphered by examining the words that are included <em>and</em> omitted.  If we scan further down, we see a section on the qualifications for officeholders. It distinguishes between citizens and non-citizens. If your interpretation was correct, making such a distinction would have been superfluous. Yet we must assume that every written word was chosen for a reason unless there is very clear reason to do otherwise. If we don&#8217;t lend great weight to each chosen word, you give the courts far more ability to legislate from the bench than you are currently accusing them of. </p>
<blockquote><p>Are these “persons” you are referring to, serving on our juries, voting in our elections, paying our taxes?</p></blockquote>
<p>Some, but not all. Regardless, the Constitution is merely a framework and does not get into the such details; they were left for Congress to decide.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: loboinok</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/06/17/why-arent-we-impeaching-some-supreme-court-justices/comment-page-1/#comment-88689</link>
		<dc:creator>loboinok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 10:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.stoptheaclu.com/?p=8839#comment-88689</guid>
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Habeas corpus simply gives our courts a chance to evaluate whether or not the tribunals gave the detainees a fair shake.&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;m not absolutely sure of where you are coming from, so to get a better understanding; I have a few questions that may, dependent on the answer, clear it up.

Given our relatively long history of civil and military law - why are so many people fuzzy on &quot;Habeas corpus&quot; in context of military law, yet same people are so crystal clear on military law and &quot;Posse Comitatus&quot;?

In the same vein; why was the importance of &#039;stare decisis&#039; and precedent, given such widespread coverage and so thoroughly discussed on the net and MSM during the SC nomination process for both Roberts and Alito, and yet noticeably absent concerning this latest decision?

Do you have any clear evidence of &#039;original&#039; intent to extend habeas corpus to this country&#039;s enemies? Any cases of it being done in the past?


 &lt;i&gt;That is absolutely and unequivocally false.&lt;/i&gt;

Then refute it with facts. Any reasonably intelligent person is capable of understanding  &quot;We the people of the United States&quot; and &quot;secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity&quot;.

&lt;i&gt;The Constitution repeatedly refers to “persons.”&lt;/i&gt;

Are these &quot;persons&quot; you are referring to, serving on our juries, voting in our elections, paying our taxes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Habeas corpus simply gives our courts a chance to evaluate whether or not the tribunals gave the detainees a fair shake.</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;m not absolutely sure of where you are coming from, so to get a better understanding; I have a few questions that may, dependent on the answer, clear it up.</p>
<p>Given our relatively long history of civil and military law &#8211; why are so many people fuzzy on &#8220;Habeas corpus&#8221; in context of military law, yet same people are so crystal clear on military law and &#8220;Posse Comitatus&#8221;?</p>
<p>In the same vein; why was the importance of &#8217;stare decisis&#8217; and precedent, given such widespread coverage and so thoroughly discussed on the net and MSM during the SC nomination process for both Roberts and Alito, and yet noticeably absent concerning this latest decision?</p>
<p>Do you have any clear evidence of &#8216;original&#8217; intent to extend habeas corpus to this country&#8217;s enemies? Any cases of it being done in the past?</p>
<p> <i>That is absolutely and unequivocally false.</i></p>
<p>Then refute it with facts. Any reasonably intelligent person is capable of understanding  &#8220;We the people of the United States&#8221; and &#8220;secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity&#8221;.</p>
<p><i>The Constitution repeatedly refers to “persons.”</i></p>
<p>Are these &#8220;persons&#8221; you are referring to, serving on our juries, voting in our elections, paying our taxes?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: DeafPulse.com - the one-stop pulse for all Deaf-related news and blogs.</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/06/17/why-arent-we-impeaching-some-supreme-court-justices/comment-page-1/#comment-88683</link>
		<dc:creator>DeafPulse.com - the one-stop pulse for all Deaf-related news and blogs.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 08:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.stoptheaclu.com/?p=8839#comment-88683</guid>
		<description>[...] Minister Gordon Brown&#039;s grilling by senior MPs on the Commons liaison committee. (172 clicks)      Why Aren’t We Impeaching Some Supreme Court Justices?Last week’s Supreme Court decision in Boume... BitingUPDATED: This post is ONLY about biting. Please don&#039;t take my [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Minister Gordon Brown&#8217;s grilling by senior MPs on the Commons liaison committee. (172 clicks)      Why Aren’t We Impeaching Some Supreme Court Justices?Last week’s Supreme Court decision in Boume&#8230; BitingUPDATED: This post is ONLY about biting. Please don&#8217;t take my [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
