Comments on: Maine Uni. Puts U.S. Flags on Floor as ‘Art’ http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/04/16/minnesota-uni-puts-us-flags-on-floor-as-art/ Beating Them With Their Own Sickle And Hammer Mon, 13 Feb 2012 13:01:35 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Tim Lang http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/04/16/minnesota-uni-puts-us-flags-on-floor-as-art/comment-page-1/#comment-85371 Tim Lang Sat, 26 Apr 2008 01:58:05 +0000 http://www.stoptheaclu.com/?p=8296#comment-85371 Wow--- While I agree she has the right to do this.. I just can for the life of me understand WHY you would do something like this. Even in 2 respects, Art as it relates to freedom of speech, and I guess political statements she has the right, but really, if you put your mind to it and actually think for 2 seconds, you would realize the flag is the symbol of our country, and we have fought for what it represents, hundreds of thousands of american soldiers have died for what that flag represents, and to put it on the floor and to have people walk on it, is just saying you don't care what they did for your freedoms, it's plain disrepectful. There is better ways she could have 'voiced' her opinion. Wow— While I agree she has the right to do this.. I just can for the life of me understand WHY you would do something like this. Even in 2 respects, Art as it relates to freedom of speech, and I guess political statements she has the right, but really, if you put your mind to it and actually think for 2 seconds, you would realize the flag is the symbol of our country, and we have fought for what it represents, hundreds of thousands of american soldiers have died for what that flag represents, and to put it on the floor and to have people walk on it, is just saying you don’t care what they did for your freedoms, it’s plain disrepectful. There is better ways she could have ‘voiced’ her opinion.

]]> By: Richard http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/04/16/minnesota-uni-puts-us-flags-on-floor-as-art/comment-page-1/#comment-85210 Richard Tue, 22 Apr 2008 17:10:23 +0000 http://www.stoptheaclu.com/?p=8296#comment-85210 Haha Warner, do you think that she did it with the intent of having it discussed on the Stop The ACLU forum? Do you think this is the only place it's being discussed (sorry -- commented on), or do you think it's safe to assume that <i>someone</i> somewhere else is talking about it too? Haha
Warner, do you think that she did it with the intent of having it discussed on the Stop The ACLU forum? Do you think this is the only place it’s being discussed (sorry — commented on), or do you think it’s safe to assume that someone somewhere else is talking about it too?

]]> By: Warner Todd Huston http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/04/16/minnesota-uni-puts-us-flags-on-floor-as-art/comment-page-1/#comment-85207 Warner Todd Huston Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:21:55 +0000 http://www.stoptheaclu.com/?p=8296#comment-85207 Wynn, You think this was "conversation"? Hardly. Even the comments here are not "conversation" as much as just outrage. There is NO "discussion" and no useful contemplation as a result of this incident. It just ginned emotions. Wynn,

You think this was “conversation”? Hardly. Even the comments here are not “conversation” as much as just outrage. There is NO “discussion” and no useful contemplation as a result of this incident. It just ginned emotions.

]]> By: Mike Mahoney http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/04/16/minnesota-uni-puts-us-flags-on-floor-as-art/comment-page-1/#comment-85197 Mike Mahoney Tue, 22 Apr 2008 14:17:24 +0000 http://www.stoptheaclu.com/?p=8296#comment-85197 Wynn--if they tried to inject facts, reason, or logic into their opinions, they'd likely implode. Ugly stuff, that. I almost prefer they prattle on this way. Wynn–if they tried to inject facts, reason, or logic into their opinions, they’d likely implode. Ugly stuff, that. I almost prefer they prattle on this way.

]]> By: Wynn http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/04/16/minnesota-uni-puts-us-flags-on-floor-as-art/comment-page-1/#comment-85196 Wynn Tue, 22 Apr 2008 13:58:10 +0000 http://www.stoptheaclu.com/?p=8296#comment-85196 But, when all is said and done, no “conversation” is sparked. Only emotions. Im not sure how you define conversation but looking at all the replies to this article I believe this did spark a fair bit of conversation. If anyone would like to read and ACCURATE article about this event check the Sunjournal articles. A note to the author: Get your facts straight before you go ranting about something you don't have accurate facts about. But, when all is said and done, no “conversation” is sparked. Only emotions. Im not sure how you define conversation but looking at all the replies to this article I believe this did spark a fair bit of conversation. If anyone would like to read and ACCURATE article about this event check the Sunjournal articles. A note to the author: Get your facts straight before you go ranting about something you don’t have accurate facts about.

]]> By: Jay Mann http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/04/16/minnesota-uni-puts-us-flags-on-floor-as-art/comment-page-1/#comment-85124 Jay Mann Sun, 20 Apr 2008 21:03:41 +0000 http://www.stoptheaclu.com/?p=8296#comment-85124 We at the Grodner Effect would like all personal information we can discover about S. Crane. If you don't know what the Grodner Effect is, read this: The Grodner Effect: A person, politican or company, particularly a lawyer or law firm who is corrupt and arrogant tries to create a position in which he or the company, party or entity for which they work or represent can repress or harm an individual or individuals simply by having connections in the legal system, political connections or personal wealth. That person, party or entity gets blogged and the entire story goes viral on the Internet, causing the person or entity who is blogged about to lose pretty much everything, like our hero and pet, Jay Grodner. Please post whatever you find in the comments section at www.grodnereffect.com Thanks!!!! We at the Grodner Effect would like all personal information we can discover about S. Crane. If you don’t know what the Grodner Effect is, read this:

The Grodner Effect:
A person, politican or company, particularly a lawyer or law firm who is corrupt and arrogant tries to create a position in which he or the company, party or entity for which they work or represent can repress or harm an individual or individuals simply by having connections in the legal system, political connections or personal wealth. That person, party or entity gets blogged and the entire story goes viral on the Internet, causing the person or entity who is blogged about to lose pretty much everything, like our hero and pet, Jay Grodner.

Please post whatever you find in the comments section at

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Thanks!!!!

]]> By: Mike J http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/04/16/minnesota-uni-puts-us-flags-on-floor-as-art/comment-page-1/#comment-85023 Mike J Sat, 19 Apr 2008 04:04:25 +0000 http://www.stoptheaclu.com/?p=8296#comment-85023 Flag should be cherished as a symbol of freedom not a walking mat that men and women have died over to protect. You can handle when you are criticized about your views. Because your views are intended to hurt people. Here is a political eye opener for you. Words of Hamas political adviser Ahmed Yousef, who in an interview Sunday with WABC radio and WorldNetDaily said the terrorist group supports Obama’s foreign policy vision. One of cut and run and leave Iraq to die under the rule of terrorism. “Barack Obama’s foreign policy plans have even won him praise from Hamas leaders,” Yousef said in the interview: “We don’t mind — actually we like Mr. Obama. And we hope he wins. How nice the terrorists like obama. Maybe because he is friends with them. Maybe because that’s where his money is coming from. Maybe the 3000+ people who died on 9/11 means nothing to you Liberal Democrats as it always shows. The colleges today are breeding grounds for Anti-Americans and racists. You people go over to your MoveOn.Org website where you disrespect people on an every day basis. Like i keep saying if you hate this country so much then get the hell out and stop your crying. I get pissed when they questioned a vets service as they did and put him down. You people need to grow up. Troll cage is closed! Flag should be cherished as a symbol of freedom not a walking mat that men and women have died over to protect. You can handle when you are criticized about your views. Because your views are intended to hurt people.

Here is a political eye opener for you.

Words of Hamas political adviser Ahmed Yousef, who in an interview Sunday with WABC radio and WorldNetDaily said the terrorist group supports Obama’s foreign policy vision. One of cut and run and leave Iraq to die under the rule of terrorism.

“Barack Obama’s foreign policy plans have even won him praise from Hamas leaders,”
Yousef said in the interview: “We don’t mind — actually we like Mr. Obama. And we hope he wins.

How nice the terrorists like obama. Maybe because he is friends with them. Maybe because that’s where his money is coming from. Maybe the 3000+ people who died on 9/11 means nothing to you Liberal Democrats as it always shows.

The colleges today are breeding grounds for Anti-Americans and racists. You people go over to your MoveOn.Org website where you disrespect people on an every day basis. Like i keep saying if you hate this country so much then get the hell out and stop your crying. I get pissed when they questioned a vets service as they did and put him down. You people need to grow up.

Troll cage is closed!

]]> By: andrew http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/04/16/minnesota-uni-puts-us-flags-on-floor-as-art/comment-page-1/#comment-85015 andrew Sat, 19 Apr 2008 01:23:41 +0000 http://www.stoptheaclu.com/?p=8296#comment-85015 I completely agree with Tyler. It seems that Mike J is taking unwarranted shots at people he obviously knows nothing about and wouldn't take the time to know them. Simply put, he is an extremest who would see any left wing radical be monarch then see democracy or the freedom he holds "so dear" to his heart prevail. Any just for the record, i don't agree with what this student did, our vets did fight for that same flag, and our flag, should be a sacred item cherished above all in our nation, when unity is needed the most I completely agree with Tyler. It seems that Mike J is taking unwarranted shots at people he obviously knows nothing about and wouldn’t take the time to know them. Simply put, he is an extremest who would see any left wing radical be monarch then see democracy or the freedom he holds “so dear” to his heart prevail. Any just for the record, i don’t agree with what this student did, our vets did fight for that same flag, and our flag, should be a sacred item cherished above all in our nation, when unity is needed the most

]]> By: Tyler http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/04/16/minnesota-uni-puts-us-flags-on-floor-as-art/comment-page-1/#comment-85011 Tyler Fri, 18 Apr 2008 23:41:33 +0000 http://www.stoptheaclu.com/?p=8296#comment-85011 I would just like to say that for one person arguing on behalf of the conservative party, they must be cringing at you lack of political insight. While what the student did may spark a response, i agree with richard and mike that your definition of freedom is very skewered. Whether or not it was some political statement is what should be being argued, not whether our colleges and teachers are anti-american, because i believe that despite your rantings, most of the people you talk of are, in fact, very Pro American. It is our given right, by the Government and the Supreme Court, to display our rights, ones you seem to be exercising just as much as anyone else. I believe that the project, if it showed something, was that 98 percent of Americans respect the flag, yet here you call pretty much anyone who's views aren't an extreme conservative a, and i quote "the trash that America doesn't need." I would like to see what you have to say about that. Just remember, 98 percent of the people who walked by avoided the flags. I'm sorry we can't all be conservatives, but America wasn't brought up to take cheap shots at people based on their beliefs. If i remember correctly, we founded this country so that people COULD express their beliefs, and not be persecuted as you would see them if we lived in your world. I would just like to say that for one person arguing on behalf of the conservative party, they must be cringing at you lack of political insight. While what the student did may spark a response, i agree with richard and mike that your definition of freedom is very skewered. Whether or not it was some political statement is what should be being argued, not whether our colleges and teachers are anti-american, because i believe that despite your rantings, most of the people you talk of are, in fact, very Pro American. It is our given right, by the Government and the Supreme Court, to display our rights, ones you seem to be exercising just as much as anyone else. I believe that the project, if it showed something, was that 98 percent of Americans respect the flag, yet here you call pretty much anyone who’s views aren’t an extreme conservative a, and i quote “the trash that America doesn’t need.” I would like to see what you have to say about that. Just remember, 98 percent of the people who walked by avoided the flags. I’m sorry we can’t all be conservatives, but America wasn’t brought up to take cheap shots at people based on their beliefs. If i remember correctly, we founded this country so that people COULD express their beliefs, and not be persecuted as you would see them if we lived in your world.

]]> By: Richard http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/04/16/minnesota-uni-puts-us-flags-on-floor-as-art/comment-page-1/#comment-85008 Richard Fri, 18 Apr 2008 22:29:53 +0000 http://www.stoptheaclu.com/?p=8296#comment-85008 THAT is your response? THAT is your response?

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