Hello media…a “man” cannot be pregnant…
…but a seriously disturbed woman can be.
Fox 12 (Oregon): Oregon Man Says He’s Pregnant
BEND, Ore. — An Oregon man is five months pregnant, according to a national magazine.
Thomas Beatie, who used to be a woman, appeared in the most recent issue of The Advocate, a magazine for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender readers, Portland, Ore., television station KPTV reported.
Beatie wrote the article, which includes a picture of him while he was 22 weeks pregnant. According to the story, he went through a sex change, but decided only to have chest reconstruction and testosterone therapy.
Beatie was able to keep the reproductive organs he was born with. The article said he stopped getting the injections and was able to get pregnant.
“Used to be a woman.” Yeah.
I can’t believe that this even needs to be said, but it does. If you are pregnant, you’re a woman. No matter if you chop you breasts off and poison yourself with hormones in order to grow a cheesy mustache, if you are pregnant, you are a woman.
Several reports played this same game in collaborating with this deeply disturbed woman’s mental illness. This poor woman needs counseling. She doesn’t need for the media to pretend to be “astonished” that a “man” is pregnant, complete with references to her using male pronouns. It is especially critical that someone help her now that she is bringing a child into the world.
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Posted by G. Fortunato on March 26, 2008 8:40 am
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Thank you for some common sense in this
insane story, which will confuse the masses.
“Common Sense” and “Everyone Knows”, “It’s self-evident” and “it’s obvious” are really good guides. If anyone tells you anything different, odds are, they’re trying to hornswaggle you. Usually. But not always, and just as a stopped clock is right twice a day, and the ACLU right even less often, sometimes “common sense” doesn’t accord with Reality.
Some facts :
All babies born with either the 5ARD or 17BHDD syndromes look like baby girls. But about half get apparent natural sex changes at puberty, and some can even become fathers.
Some people are born with neither 46xx (F) nor 46xy (M) chromosomes, but 47xxy. They usually look male, but some have defective SrY genes and can bear children. Others can become fathers too.
Genetically female men exist – they usually have CAH. Genetically male women exist, they have CAIS.
About 1.7% of the population (1 in 60) are technically Intersexed, neither 100% male nor 100% female, but most are asymptomatic. Only about 1 in 1000 have real problems.
So the “common sense” view that men are men, women are women, while true for over 99% of the population, isn’t true for everyone.
Two articles on Transsexuality:
Zhou J.-N, Hofman M.A, Gooren L.J, Swaab D.F (1997)
A Sex Difference in the Human Brain and its Relation to Transsexuality.
Kruijver F.P.M, Zhou J.-N, Pool C.W., Swaab D.F. (2000)
Male-to-Female Transsexuals Have Female Neuron Numbers in a Limbic Nucleus
Male and Female brains differ, both on the coarse scale (BSTc layer of the hypothalamus) and fine scale (number of neurons – brain cells – in each structure). Autopsies on transsexual women, that is, women with mostly male bodies, have shown they have female pattern brains.
Note that gay men have male pattern brains though.
From ArzteZeitung this year, detailing studies using fMRT – “brain scans” of living people:
“Radiologists can now confirm what transsexuals report – that they feel “trapped in the wrong body†– on the basis of the activation of the brain when presented with erotic stimuli. There is obviously a biological correlation with the subjective feelings.”
So to say that a transsexual man is “female” is at best a half-truth. The visible parts are. The parts that determine his personality, his gender (since we know that neither chromosomes nor external appearance is reliable), are male.
Transsexuality is hideously uncomfortable. Changing the body to match the brain is the only cure.
Women are in a good position regarding surgery, but the hormones don’t work all that well. Men are in the opposite situation, the hormones work really well, but the surgery generally doesn’t. Many forego it, because of the cost ($100,000), and the low success rate (30%). Those that do forego it can never be biological fathers, but they can get a “second prize”, if they’re willing to partially revert for a while to their former Nightmarish situation.
This isn’t new: what is new is that we’re no longer hiding. We’ve been caught in the backlash against same-sex marriage, and 5 of us (2 only children) have been murdered this year already.
For 19 other examples, see the movie Transparent – http://www.transparentthemovie.com/
That came out 3 years ago.
Oh yes, I wasn’t using the Royal “We”.
My diagnosis in 1985 was “undervirilised male”, that is, mildly Intersexed. That was at a fertility clinic, on the basis of a simple exam with the technology of the time.
In 2001, with some technical help as I didn’t have all the necessary bits, just some, I fathered a child.
In 2005, the diagnosis was reviewed as the result of some dramatic changes to my body. I had all the tests medical science could devise, MRI, Ultrasound, Karyotype, you name it. And the diagnosis was changed to “severe androgenisation of a non-pregnant woman”.
If you have a problem with a woman being a biological father, take it up with my OB/GYN, Ok?
“…this deeply disturbed woman?s mental illness.” “This poor woman needs counseling.”
If he has gotten this far in his transition to be the man he should have been born as, he has seen more psychiatrists and psychologists than there are letters in those words. All he did was follow his heart with the support of the psychiatric community. He followed the recommended treatment according to the psychiatric community. If you want proof of that, just look in the DSM IV for yourself.
“If you have a problem with a woman being a biological father, take it up with my OB/GYN, Ok?”
Wow. One of the most bizarre things I’ve ever seen written.
Anyway, my point is that this is a woman, pretending to be a man, that has become pregnant (only a biological woman can become pregnant), yet the media insists on referring to this woman as a man even though this pregnant woman is obviously a woman.
“Changing the body to match the brain is the only cure.”
Obviously the essentially female body parts weren’t changed, only the cosmetics. Otherwise how could she have gotten pregnant? Anyway, on what REAL authority do you base the above statement aside from your opinion and some politically-motivated “researchers?”
I understand that there are people born with anomolous and ambiguous physical characteristics. You may be one of those people. I have a great deal of compassion for you.
But, again, that’s not what we’re are talking about here. This is a case of a physically well-functioning woman (in order to have been poisoned with male hormones the way she was for so long without them completely ravaging her reproductive system is a miracle) with deep psychological problems. The fact that politically-controlled professional organizations whose mission is, ostensibly, promotion of mental health are complicit in the advancement and exacerbation of such a serious disorder is criminal. Just as bad, the media plays along with this disastrous game.
One of the worst consequences of the Global Warming fiasco is that it has bred a deep and abiding distrust of Science. It’s impossible to say that some researchers aren’t politically-motivated “researchers” instead. But at least you can follow a money-trail, and figure out any hidden motivation. There’s also evidence that can be found on both sides.
You say that the research was “politically motivated”. Apart from the fact that you don’t agree with it, what actual evidence do you have for that? The evidence comes from all over the world, and it’s not as if the Left is comfy with the idea that male and female brains are different. Just go to any “gender studies” section of any University, and they’ll tell you this is all a Rightist plot.
The main opposition to this – one not based on evidence – is in various religious journals, as scientific papers require there to be some results.
I’ll quote from the Full Bench of the Australian Family Court in 2003, when they reviewed the evidence:
“At paragraph [247]: ?In my view the expert evidence in this case affirms that brain development is (at least) an important determinant of a person?s sense of being a man or a woman. No contrary opinion is expressed. All the experts are very well qualified. None was required for cross-examination, nor was any contrary evidence called?.
At paragraph [248]: ?In my view the evidence is, in essence, that the experts believe that the brain development view is likely to be true, and they explain the basis for their beliefs. In the circumstances, I see no reason why I should not accept the proposition, on the balance of probabilities, for the purpose of this case.?
At paragraph [252]: ?The traditional analysis that they are “psychologically” transsexual does not explain how this state came about. For example, there seems to be no suggestion in the evidence that their psychological state can be explained by reference to circumstances of their upbringing. In that sense, the brain sex theory does not seem to be competing with other explanations, but rather is providing a possible explanation of what is otherwise inexplicable?.
At paragraph [253]: ?In other words (as I understand it) the brain of an individual may in some sense be male, for example, though the rest of the person?s body is female?.
At paragraph [265]: ?In my view the argument in favour of the ?brain sex” view is also based on evidence about the development and experience of transsexuals and others with atypical sex-related characteristics. There is a vast literature on this, some of which is in evidence, and I can do no more than mention briefly some of the main points?.
At paragraph [268]: ?It seems quite wrong to think of these people as merely wishing or preferring to be of the opposite sex, or having the opinion that they are?.
At paragraph [270]: ?But I am satisfied that the evidence now is inconsistent with the distinction formerly drawn between biological factors, meaning genitals, chromosomes and gonads, and merely “psychological factors”, and on this basis distinguishing between cases of inter-sex (incongruities among biological factors) and transsexualism (incongruities between biology and psychology)?.
At paragraph [272]: ?In my view the evidence demonstrates (at least on the balance of probabilities) that the characteristics of transsexuals are as much ?biological? as those of people thought of as inter-sex?.”
Even the Florida Court that ruled in Kantaras vs Kantaras didn’t contest that these were the medical facts – just that that was not what the Legislature intended, and that they should change the law accordingly.
The World Professional Association for Transgender Health puts out the “Standards of Care”, a set of guidelines for treatment that physicians can be, and have been, sued for if they don’t follow them. That’s just like other SOCs for heart disease, diabetes and so on. They may be flawed, but they are the best guess we have, and the success rate with them is in the high-90s of percent. They work.
This is what they say:
“Sex Reassignment is Effective and Medically Indicated in Severe GID. In persons diagnosed with transsexualism or profound GID, sex reassignment surgery, along with hormone therapy and real life experience, is a treatment that has proven to be effective. Such a therapeutic regimen, when prescribed or recommended by qualified practitioners, is medically indicated and medically necessary. Sex reassignment is not “experimental,” “investigational,” “elective,” “cosmetic,” or optional in any meaningful sense. It constitutes very effective and appropriate treatment for transsexualism or profound GID.”
Sources:
http://www.symposion.com/ijt/soc_2001/soc_10.htm
http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/journals/DeakinLRev/2004/22.html#Heading437
I’ll attempt to answer your points, but it really comes down to defining what is a man, and what is a woman.
Usually, that’s pretty straightforward. The two categories are mutually exclusive, and cover everyone – everyone is either a man or a woman, and a person is either one or the other, not both, and not neither. Usually. I know of only one case where someone managed to be both a biological mother and a biological father. Fertile “true” hermaphroditism is extremely rare, about 1 in a million, though there are less spectacular conditions that are even rarer.
We can show that chromosomes aren’t reliable, because there’s people with xx chromosomes who have fathered children, and people with xy chromosomes who have become pregnant. We can show that body form isn’t reliable, as some intersex conditions can cause an apparent switch from one to another. Mostly F to M, only 1 in 1000 the other way. See http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/node/1462 for an example. Then there’s the simple cases of women who have had hysterectomies, and men who have had orchidectomies. They’re still women and men, respectively.
So what is our touchstone? What single test is there to say “this person is male” or “this person is female”? It’s usually obvious of course, but not always. Take my own case, for example.
Boys and Girls are aware of their gender at an early age. Sometimes at age 2, sometimes as late as 7. But always before puberty. Sometimes though, that awareness doesn’t match their appearance.
30 years ago, psychiatry was faced with an intractable syndrome. It was called a mental illness, based on common sense. It was arguable that it was, indeed, “all in the mind”, as there was no evidence that it was biological. It was also argued that it *had* to be biological though, as otherwise analysis, therapy, psychotropic drugs, shock treatment, even lobotomy would have done *something* to cure it, and all had been tried with zero success.
Eventually, they settled on sex reassignment via hormones and surgery, on purely pragmatic grounds. It worked, and nothing else did. It wasn’t until 1995 that autopsies, and later MRI scans of living people, showed that Male and Female brains differ, and that these “mentally ill” people were just intersexed, with brains not matching their bodies. Some psychiatrists consider the evidence inconclusive – and indeed, it’s far too scanty for complete proof – and so continue to try the same old treatments, and report the same old zero percentage of success, year after year after year. But they’re a dwindling minority, as we now have over 280 reports on PubMed, all showing success rates of 80-98%, based on a biological cross-gendered neurology causation model.
So this guy is a guy, by that definition. He also wants children. Adoption is probably impossible, as people like him, people like me, are usually prohibited from adopting, and often have any kids we are the biological parents of taken from us at birth. I won’t enumerate the Human Rights we don’t have, let’s just say that things most take for granted, like medical treatment at an accident scene, are often denied.