Comments on: Does obesity cause diabetes? http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/03/03/does-obesity-cause-diabetes/ Beating Them With Their Own Sickle And Hammer Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:50:16 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.2 hourly 1 By: Hover http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/03/03/does-obesity-cause-diabetes/comment-page-1/#comment-127380 Hover Fri, 09 Oct 2009 12:00:14 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.com/archives/2008/03/03/does-obesity-cause-diabetes/#comment-127380 This is a great post. <a href="http://stop-childhood-obesity.com" rel="nofollow">Obesity</a> is indeed a very alarming issue. Children as early as 6 years old are even diagnosed. I just hope government and health workers are effective in providing health education to families. Slimming pills must be avoided and exercise and diet must be maintained and controlled. I am not a Doctor or something, but Diabetes is more on a genetic factor. This is a great post. Obesity is indeed a very alarming issue. Children as early as 6 years old are even diagnosed. I just hope government and health workers are effective in providing health education to families. Slimming pills must be avoided and exercise and diet must be maintained and controlled.

I am not a Doctor or something, but Diabetes is more on a genetic factor.

]]> By: John Ryan http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/03/03/does-obesity-cause-diabetes/comment-page-1/#comment-78367 John Ryan Thu, 06 Mar 2008 01:43:22 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.com/archives/2008/03/03/does-obesity-cause-diabetes/#comment-78367 Chicken or the egg ? Chicken or the egg ?

]]> By: Brent http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/03/03/does-obesity-cause-diabetes/comment-page-1/#comment-77588 Brent Mon, 03 Mar 2008 18:28:24 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.com/archives/2008/03/03/does-obesity-cause-diabetes/#comment-77588 Yeah, Natalie, it's what I was getting at about an utterly uninformed individual spouting off nonsense to make some weird political point. As if we diabetics don't have to deal with enough ignorance from the public - the other night, I was offered a cinnamon roll and, after politely turning it down was asked why? I said because as a diabetic, it was bad for me. They then informed me: 'well, we have unglazed too." Sigh....the world is just brimming with ignorant "experts" like Dr Johnnie... Yeah, Natalie, it’s what I was getting at about an utterly uninformed individual spouting off nonsense to make some weird political point. As if we diabetics don’t have to deal with enough ignorance from the public – the other night, I was offered a cinnamon roll and, after politely turning it down was asked why? I said because as a diabetic, it was bad for me. They then informed me: ‘well, we have unglazed too.” Sigh….the world is just brimming with ignorant “experts” like Dr Johnnie…

]]> By: Angryflower http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/03/03/does-obesity-cause-diabetes/comment-page-1/#comment-77587 Angryflower Mon, 03 Mar 2008 18:24:44 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.com/archives/2008/03/03/does-obesity-cause-diabetes/#comment-77587 "As far as I can see, then, the alleged effect of fat on diabetes is just a guess. Ho hum! Just another instance of crap medical “wisdom”." Just, wow. "How about increased crime causing both stress and overeating as a response to stress?" That's it people! The liberals and illegals are giving us diabetes! “As far as I can see, then, the alleged effect of fat on diabetes is just a guess. Ho hum! Just another instance of crap medical “wisdom”.”

Just, wow.

“How about increased crime causing both stress and overeating as a response to stress?”

That’s it people! The liberals and illegals are giving us diabetes!

]]> By: Natalie http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/03/03/does-obesity-cause-diabetes/comment-page-1/#comment-77585 Natalie Mon, 03 Mar 2008 18:24:13 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.com/archives/2008/03/03/does-obesity-cause-diabetes/#comment-77585 Wow. Apparently Dr. Johnnie hasn't got a clue what he's talking about. Have you ever started babbling in incoherent sentences as your body shakes violently simply because you've been working hard with no lunch? I have to eat EVERY meal, hungry or not. When I exercise, I have to eat more. It's not easy to maintain my weight. Wow. Apparently Dr. Johnnie hasn’t got a clue what he’s talking about. Have you ever started babbling in incoherent sentences as your body shakes violently simply because you’ve been working hard with no lunch? I have to eat EVERY meal, hungry or not. When I exercise, I have to eat more. It’s not easy to maintain my weight.

]]> By: Brent http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/03/03/does-obesity-cause-diabetes/comment-page-1/#comment-77574 Brent Mon, 03 Mar 2008 17:35:10 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.com/archives/2008/03/03/does-obesity-cause-diabetes/#comment-77574 Well JonJay - As a diabetic, it's always nice to get a good opinion piece from someone without diabetes telling us how things are - Lord knows, we aren't invested in the disease enough to figure it out for ourselves. Of course, the fact that my diabetic symptoms decreased dramatically as I lost weight will have no effect on your well thought out arguments; mainly because I am pushing no particular political agenda and therefore not of great interest to your medical theories. If you are looking for some environmental 'triggers' though, look at the research between the use of high fructose corn syrup (HFCS) and the increase of diabetes. Also look at the increase in high glycemic level foods and the increase of diabetes. Maybe you'll learn something about the topic you think you know so well. In the meantime, stick to political blather; your opinion on diabetes isn't worth the pixels its composed of. Well JonJay -
As a diabetic, it’s always nice to get a good opinion piece from someone without diabetes telling us how things are – Lord knows, we aren’t invested in the disease enough to figure it out for ourselves.
Of course, the fact that my diabetic symptoms decreased dramatically as I lost weight will have no effect on your well thought out arguments; mainly because I am pushing no particular political agenda and therefore not of great interest to your medical theories.
If you are looking for some environmental ‘triggers’ though, look at the research between the use of high fructose corn syrup (HFCS) and the increase of diabetes. Also look at the increase in high glycemic level foods and the increase of diabetes. Maybe you’ll learn something about the topic you think you know so well. In the meantime, stick to political blather; your opinion on diabetes isn’t worth the pixels its composed of.

]]> By: Sarah http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/03/03/does-obesity-cause-diabetes/comment-page-1/#comment-77573 Sarah Mon, 03 Mar 2008 17:32:20 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.com/archives/2008/03/03/does-obesity-cause-diabetes/#comment-77573 Peter, saying "There comes a point when the body weight is more than the pancreas can produce enough insulin to handle the extra weight" is incorrect because type II diabetics do have plenty of insulin circulating around their body. In fact, the excess insulin actually encourages calories to be stored as fat. The insulin does not, however, function properly and lower blood sugar. That is why type II diabetics have both high blood sugar and high levels of circulating insulin. A really interesting read about this topic is Good Calories, Bad Calories by Gary Taub. Peter, saying “There comes a point when the body weight is more than the pancreas can produce enough insulin to handle the extra weight” is incorrect because type II diabetics do have plenty of insulin circulating around their body. In fact, the excess insulin actually encourages calories to be stored as fat. The insulin does not, however, function properly and lower blood sugar. That is why type II diabetics have both high blood sugar and high levels of circulating insulin. A really interesting read about this topic is Good Calories, Bad Calories by Gary Taub.

]]> By: Nimrod http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/03/03/does-obesity-cause-diabetes/comment-page-1/#comment-77562 Nimrod Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:59:16 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.com/archives/2008/03/03/does-obesity-cause-diabetes/#comment-77562 No, pigs don't get diabetes. The don't live long enough. They become bacon and then contribute to our diabetes. No, pigs don’t get diabetes. The don’t live long enough. They become bacon and then contribute to our diabetes.

]]> By: Peter http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/03/03/does-obesity-cause-diabetes/comment-page-1/#comment-77546 Peter Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:53:52 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.com/archives/2008/03/03/does-obesity-cause-diabetes/#comment-77546 There is a reason why obesity is linked to diabetes. There comes a point when the body weight is more than the pancreas can produce enough insulin to handle the extra weight. Type 2 Diabetes (used to be called late on-set and usually occurred after 35) is related to weight. There are now teenagers being diagnosed with Type 2 Diabetes based on their body weight. Type 1 Diabetics (like me are typically called "juvenile diabetics" because we are insuln dependent and we develop diabetest prior to the age of 35) suffer from the genetic issue and are more likely to be subject to the environmental triggers. There is a reason why obesity is linked to diabetes. There comes a point when the body weight is more than the pancreas can produce enough insulin to handle the extra weight. Type 2 Diabetes (used to be called late on-set and usually occurred after 35) is related to weight. There are now teenagers being diagnosed with Type 2 Diabetes based on their body weight. Type 1 Diabetics (like me are typically called “juvenile diabetics” because we are insuln dependent and we develop diabetest prior to the age of 35) suffer from the genetic issue and are more likely to be subject to the environmental triggers.

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