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		<title>By: Bernard Wiehl</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/01/01/confirmed-ron-paul-cut-from-debates/comment-page-1/#comment-68615</link>
		<dc:creator>Bernard Wiehl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 12:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it is disgraceful for a news show to decide who is a viable candidate. I thought that was what the ballot box was for. Maybe Fox can just tell us who the president is and we won&#039;t have to worry about elections any longer. These people should lose their license to broadcast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is disgraceful for a news show to decide who is a viable candidate. I thought that was what the ballot box was for. Maybe Fox can just tell us who the president is and we won&#8217;t have to worry about elections any longer. These people should lose their license to broadcast.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom deSabla</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/01/01/confirmed-ron-paul-cut-from-debates/comment-page-1/#comment-68495</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom deSabla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 18:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as the Paul campaign being &quot;done&quot; for whatever reason...

HA! Dream on.

19 million bucks says we aren&#039;t done.

We&#039;ll be done when we say we&#039;re done, and I really, really, really wouldn&#039;t hold my breath if I were you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as the Paul campaign being &#8220;done&#8221; for whatever reason&#8230;</p>
<p>HA! Dream on.</p>
<p>19 million bucks says we aren&#8217;t done.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll be done when we say we&#8217;re done, and I really, really, really wouldn&#8217;t hold my breath if I were you.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom deSabla</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/01/01/confirmed-ron-paul-cut-from-debates/comment-page-1/#comment-68494</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom deSabla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 18:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh and by the way, I utterly reject this foolish &quot;horse race&quot; paradigm for voting. It&#039;s stupid. You&#039;re not betting on the winner folks, or don&#039;t you get that? Mindlessly trying to line yourself up with whoever the &quot;winner&quot; is supposed to be doesn&#039;t do anything for this country or your children.

You&#039;re supposed to be voting for the best person, with the best ideas, who knows what the problems are and how to fix them. If you aren&#039;t doing that, then you aren&#039;t really using democracy the way it is most beneficial. What&#039;s the point of voting if you aren&#039;t voting for the best person for the job?
How do you expect to get the best person, if all you care about is voting for the eventual winner?

Like I said - it&#039;s stupid. Wake up, set down the pipe, quit listening to the mainstream naysayers, and join the REVOLUTION! You have nothing to lose but your addiction to the state, and everything to gain - for yourself and for your children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and by the way, I utterly reject this foolish &#8220;horse race&#8221; paradigm for voting. It&#8217;s stupid. You&#8217;re not betting on the winner folks, or don&#8217;t you get that? Mindlessly trying to line yourself up with whoever the &#8220;winner&#8221; is supposed to be doesn&#8217;t do anything for this country or your children.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re supposed to be voting for the best person, with the best ideas, who knows what the problems are and how to fix them. If you aren&#8217;t doing that, then you aren&#8217;t really using democracy the way it is most beneficial. What&#8217;s the point of voting if you aren&#8217;t voting for the best person for the job?<br />
How do you expect to get the best person, if all you care about is voting for the eventual winner?</p>
<p>Like I said &#8211; it&#8217;s stupid. Wake up, set down the pipe, quit listening to the mainstream naysayers, and join the REVOLUTION! You have nothing to lose but your addiction to the state, and everything to gain &#8211; for yourself and for your children.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom deSabla</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/01/01/confirmed-ron-paul-cut-from-debates/comment-page-1/#comment-68493</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom deSabla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 18:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Cary,

You can&#039;t &quot;spam&quot; a straw poll. They are conducted by real people who have to appear at a location and pay money for the privilege of voting. Either you already knew that - which would make you dishonest and deceptive, or you didn&#039;t know that - which makes you seem ignorant.

Also, about this... 

&quot;Uncle Ron&quot; has had a year to campaignâ€¦he&#039;s polling nationally at 3%. He doesn&#039;t have a chance &amp; he never had a chance Sorry, not gonna happen. Let it go. Paul has a small handful of ideas that should and will be advanced &amp; discussed in conservative circles for a long time. Otherwise he&#039;s made his point, had his time, and is FLAT OUT DONE.&quot;

Iowa is a statist haven of folks who are net subsidized by the Federal Government, and he&#039;s polling at 10% among Republicans there, not 3%. He won Jefferson County outright; and he was the only candidate other than Huck or Romney to win a county. 

Also, I have noted that all the other candidates have been plastered all over the front pages of the big papers like the Wash Post, and Paul never ever has appeared on the front page. Even on Dec 16th when he set the all time fundraising record - it was an A6 story.

Oh, and one more thing Cary - you and people like you are totally the problem in this country - after all, you are against Ron Paul, and so are all the other Congresspeople and Senators. Who has been having their way for the last 30 years - Paul, or the mainstream that you apparently support? 

The mainstream has been having things their way, and it&#039;s not working. Your ideas aren&#039;t working. It&#039;s you and those who agree with you who need to give up and step aside so the real leaders can set this country on the path to freedom.
 

To all those who haven&#039;t made up their minds: please note the quality of anti-Paul arguments, and compare them to the quality of the pro-Paul arguments. Then use your head.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Cary,</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t &#8220;spam&#8221; a straw poll. They are conducted by real people who have to appear at a location and pay money for the privilege of voting. Either you already knew that &#8211; which would make you dishonest and deceptive, or you didn&#8217;t know that &#8211; which makes you seem ignorant.</p>
<p>Also, about this&#8230; </p>
<p>&#8220;Uncle Ron&#8221; has had a year to campaignâ€¦he&#8217;s polling nationally at 3%. He doesn&#8217;t have a chance &#038; he never had a chance Sorry, not gonna happen. Let it go. Paul has a small handful of ideas that should and will be advanced &#038; discussed in conservative circles for a long time. Otherwise he&#8217;s made his point, had his time, and is FLAT OUT DONE.&#8221;</p>
<p>Iowa is a statist haven of folks who are net subsidized by the Federal Government, and he&#8217;s polling at 10% among Republicans there, not 3%. He won Jefferson County outright; and he was the only candidate other than Huck or Romney to win a county. </p>
<p>Also, I have noted that all the other candidates have been plastered all over the front pages of the big papers like the Wash Post, and Paul never ever has appeared on the front page. Even on Dec 16th when he set the all time fundraising record &#8211; it was an A6 story.</p>
<p>Oh, and one more thing Cary &#8211; you and people like you are totally the problem in this country &#8211; after all, you are against Ron Paul, and so are all the other Congresspeople and Senators. Who has been having their way for the last 30 years &#8211; Paul, or the mainstream that you apparently support? </p>
<p>The mainstream has been having things their way, and it&#8217;s not working. Your ideas aren&#8217;t working. It&#8217;s you and those who agree with you who need to give up and step aside so the real leaders can set this country on the path to freedom.</p>
<p>To all those who haven&#8217;t made up their minds: please note the quality of anti-Paul arguments, and compare them to the quality of the pro-Paul arguments. Then use your head.</p>
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		<title>By: Yeoman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yeoman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 09:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But I always thought that this would give the VP great motivation to have the President killed (and blame it on a lone nut of course).&quot;

Like with Johnson and JFK, or the attempt on Reagan. It happens regardless. A good documentary to look up is &quot;JFK II The Bush Connection&quot;. You can find itand many others at www.prisonplanet.tv .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But I always thought that this would give the VP great motivation to have the President killed (and blame it on a lone nut of course).&#8221;</p>
<p>Like with Johnson and JFK, or the attempt on Reagan. It happens regardless. A good documentary to look up is &#8220;JFK II The Bush Connection&#8221;. You can find itand many others at <a href="http://www.prisonplanet.tv" rel="nofollow">http://www.prisonplanet.tv</a> .</p>
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		<title>By: Carole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 02:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This exclusion of Dr. Paul is simple to explain. Fox does not want Paul&#039;s message heard (Murdoch orders). Paul tells the truth to power. This is a bad thing.

Fox wishes to prop up Thompson before S.Carolina and Hurt Paul&#039;s chances in NH as well as take away votes from Paul. This is how they play the game.

Truly, I hope the &quot;blowback&quot; from this shameful episode hurts them badly. There are certainly signs that it has-NWS stock down (Murdoch has lost a billion already), sponsors pulling out or being boycotted. More to come.

Status quo will fight tooth and nail to maintain their power. This points clearly to FOX as not being a real news network. Secretly, the GOP is probably pleased as they also dislike Dr. Paul.

Shame on America for putting up with this. It is you right to hear the issues that is being usurped.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This exclusion of Dr. Paul is simple to explain. Fox does not want Paul&#8217;s message heard (Murdoch orders). Paul tells the truth to power. This is a bad thing.</p>
<p>Fox wishes to prop up Thompson before S.Carolina and Hurt Paul&#8217;s chances in NH as well as take away votes from Paul. This is how they play the game.</p>
<p>Truly, I hope the &#8220;blowback&#8221; from this shameful episode hurts them badly. There are certainly signs that it has-NWS stock down (Murdoch has lost a billion already), sponsors pulling out or being boycotted. More to come.</p>
<p>Status quo will fight tooth and nail to maintain their power. This points clearly to FOX as not being a real news network. Secretly, the GOP is probably pleased as they also dislike Dr. Paul.</p>
<p>Shame on America for putting up with this. It is you right to hear the issues that is being usurped.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 17:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about let in everyone who won at least one county in Iowa?  That would only exclude Thompson, McCain, Giuliani and Hunter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about let in everyone who won at least one county in Iowa?  That would only exclude Thompson, McCain, Giuliani and Hunter.</p>
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		<title>By: Rudi Dekkers</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/01/01/confirmed-ron-paul-cut-from-debates/comment-page-1/#comment-68405</link>
		<dc:creator>Rudi Dekkers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 15:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mustard, I was always puzzled about the reasons for the VP being a second prize in the original constitution.  But you made me realize that people would be much more inclined to vote for a minority position if they thought it stood a good chance of coming in second even though they doubted it could come in first, so I can see that benefit.

And having the opposition in a position of government power instead of being shut out would be really good.  But I always thought that this would give the VP great motivation to have the President killed (and blame it on a lone nut of course).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mustard, I was always puzzled about the reasons for the VP being a second prize in the original constitution.  But you made me realize that people would be much more inclined to vote for a minority position if they thought it stood a good chance of coming in second even though they doubted it could come in first, so I can see that benefit.</p>
<p>And having the opposition in a position of government power instead of being shut out would be really good.  But I always thought that this would give the VP great motivation to have the President killed (and blame it on a lone nut of course).</p>
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		<title>By: Mustard</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/01/01/confirmed-ron-paul-cut-from-debates/comment-page-1/#comment-68390</link>
		<dc:creator>Mustard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 08:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ironically, Fox News&#039; website shows Ron Paul polling ahead of both Huckabee AND Fred in New Hampshire.  Additionally, he appears to have received more support than Rudy in the Iowa caucusi.  Speaking as one Florida voter who supports Dr. Paul&#039;s candidacy, his general poor polling and complete lack of media and party support are not evidence of a conspiracy.  On the contrary, Dr. Paul&#039;s difficult candidacy is a symptom of a dysfunctional and broken system.  The republic began to disintegrate with the ratification of the 12th amendment to the constitution.  The Vice-Presidency was designed to be SECOND PRIZE.  There is a very important reason for that.  read Washington&#039;s farewell address, he warned us.  We failed him, and each other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ironically, Fox News&#8217; website shows Ron Paul polling ahead of both Huckabee AND Fred in New Hampshire.  Additionally, he appears to have received more support than Rudy in the Iowa caucusi.  Speaking as one Florida voter who supports Dr. Paul&#8217;s candidacy, his general poor polling and complete lack of media and party support are not evidence of a conspiracy.  On the contrary, Dr. Paul&#8217;s difficult candidacy is a symptom of a dysfunctional and broken system.  The republic began to disintegrate with the ratification of the 12th amendment to the constitution.  The Vice-Presidency was designed to be SECOND PRIZE.  There is a very important reason for that.  read Washington&#8217;s farewell address, he warned us.  We failed him, and each other.</p>
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		<dc:creator>The Ron Paul Blimp Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Latest Blimp Media</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 05:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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