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		<title>By: Peter Porcupine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Porcupine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 02:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK.  I alrady mentioned the abolition of the Metropolitan District Commission and the firing of Bulger (his brother is the Jack Nicholson charachter in &#039;The Departed&#039;).

When he came into office, he had a $3 billion defecit.  He was able to square the books by consolidating hundreds of rat&#039;s-nest state agencies and eliminate managers - for instance, when he came into office, Health and Human Services had seventeen seperate agencies, all with overlapping mandates and paid staff.  When he left, there were five agencies.  He also ran a surplus every year, and filled up the Rainy Day fund to $2 BILLION, by vetoing Democrat pork over and over - which I regard as George Bush&#039;s single greatest failing.

He created the John and Abigail Adams scholarships which would give kids with a high GPA free tuition at state colleges, but he also vetoed a bill to allow illegal immigrants in-state tuition rates, and he had that veto sustained.

He reformed drunk driving laws in the Commonwealth, along with the first update of organ donor laws in 22 years, making it easier for donors to have their wishes respected.

When a bill came across his desk to allow over-the-counter RU-486 and morning after pills, he vetoed it, saying it was a change in abortion laws which he had pledged not to change when he took office.  Libs were furious - more liberal was not a change to them, but it was to Mitt - and THAT veto was sustained as well.

After a stem cell bill was introduced in 2005, he vetoed it, with changes.  He could not prevent the bill from passing, but the changes were incorporated.  For instance, a provision that women could not be paid for eggs or genetic material, to prevent poor women from becoming egg factories for researchers.

Every year, he filed a bill to reduce the state income tax to 5%, which the voters had passed in 2000, and which the Legislature - 93% Democrat - refuses to honor.

These are just things from my personal knowledge.  There is plenty more if you look beyond the Boston Globe and MSM who are out to stifle the most electable candidate agaisnt Hillary Clinton - after all, he DID become Governor of Mass. by beating Dem. State Treasurer Shannon O&#039;Brien - in Massachusetts, yet!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK.  I alrady mentioned the abolition of the Metropolitan District Commission and the firing of Bulger (his brother is the Jack Nicholson charachter in &#8216;The Departed&#8217;).</p>
<p>When he came into office, he had a $3 billion defecit.  He was able to square the books by consolidating hundreds of rat&#8217;s-nest state agencies and eliminate managers &#8211; for instance, when he came into office, Health and Human Services had seventeen seperate agencies, all with overlapping mandates and paid staff.  When he left, there were five agencies.  He also ran a surplus every year, and filled up the Rainy Day fund to $2 BILLION, by vetoing Democrat pork over and over &#8211; which I regard as George Bush&#8217;s single greatest failing.</p>
<p>He created the John and Abigail Adams scholarships which would give kids with a high GPA free tuition at state colleges, but he also vetoed a bill to allow illegal immigrants in-state tuition rates, and he had that veto sustained.</p>
<p>He reformed drunk driving laws in the Commonwealth, along with the first update of organ donor laws in 22 years, making it easier for donors to have their wishes respected.</p>
<p>When a bill came across his desk to allow over-the-counter RU-486 and morning after pills, he vetoed it, saying it was a change in abortion laws which he had pledged not to change when he took office.  Libs were furious &#8211; more liberal was not a change to them, but it was to Mitt &#8211; and THAT veto was sustained as well.</p>
<p>After a stem cell bill was introduced in 2005, he vetoed it, with changes.  He could not prevent the bill from passing, but the changes were incorporated.  For instance, a provision that women could not be paid for eggs or genetic material, to prevent poor women from becoming egg factories for researchers.</p>
<p>Every year, he filed a bill to reduce the state income tax to 5%, which the voters had passed in 2000, and which the Legislature &#8211; 93% Democrat &#8211; refuses to honor.</p>
<p>These are just things from my personal knowledge.  There is plenty more if you look beyond the Boston Globe and MSM who are out to stifle the most electable candidate agaisnt Hillary Clinton &#8211; after all, he DID become Governor of Mass. by beating Dem. State Treasurer Shannon O&#8217;Brien &#8211; in Massachusetts, yet!</p>
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		<title>By: loboinok</title>
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		<dc:creator>loboinok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 21:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I would submit that becoming more conservative over the course of 17 years isnâ€™t exactly a flip-flop.&lt;/i&gt;

Then submit evidence that he has actually become more conservative. That would of course involve anything he has &lt;b&gt;done&lt;/b&gt; rather than what he says he advocates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I would submit that becoming more conservative over the course of 17 years isnâ€™t exactly a flip-flop.</i></p>
<p>Then submit evidence that he has actually become more conservative. That would of course involve anything he has <b>done</b> rather than what he says he advocates.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Porcupine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Porcupine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 19:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay - I started to watch these videos, but noticed that all of them lift sentences out of context, sometimes stopping Romney&#039;s words mid-sentence.  The National Democratic Party has offered a &#039;slice and dice&#039; program for activists to &#039;create&#039; videos (link to discussion here - http://www.bluemassgroup.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=9546).

I worked with, although not for, Romney in the State House.  You never see videos about his abolition of the MDC, a huge patronage haven, or his firing of corrupt Billy Bulger, former Senate President, and brother of FBI&#039;s most wanted killer.  No, you see sentences taken out of context in SEVENTEEN YEAR OLD video clips.

I would submit that becoming more conservative over the course of 17 years isn&#039;t exactly a flip-flop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay &#8211; I started to watch these videos, but noticed that all of them lift sentences out of context, sometimes stopping Romney&#8217;s words mid-sentence.  The National Democratic Party has offered a &#8217;slice and dice&#8217; program for activists to &#8216;create&#8217; videos (link to discussion here &#8211; <a href="http://www.bluemassgroup.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=9546)" rel="nofollow">http://www.bluemassgroup.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=9546)</a>.</p>
<p>I worked with, although not for, Romney in the State House.  You never see videos about his abolition of the MDC, a huge patronage haven, or his firing of corrupt Billy Bulger, former Senate President, and brother of FBI&#8217;s most wanted killer.  No, you see sentences taken out of context in SEVENTEEN YEAR OLD video clips.</p>
<p>I would submit that becoming more conservative over the course of 17 years isn&#8217;t exactly a flip-flop.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 17:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James almost had it right with, &quot;A man who accepts evil for the sake of political expediency has no character.&quot;

James, he &lt;i&gt;does&lt;/i&gt; have character; it&#039;s just not of a sort that any decent person can respect. &quot;Political expediancy&quot; is the excuse of a politician who has no conviction of right and wrong, only &quot;convictions&quot; led by what he thinks will gain him the most power, influence, etc.

Again, when I look at Mitt Romney to see what&#039;s there, I see no &quot;there&quot; there at all, just poll-driven pablum for the sheeple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James almost had it right with, &#8220;A man who accepts evil for the sake of political expediency has no character.&#8221;</p>
<p>James, he <i>does</i> have character; it&#8217;s just not of a sort that any decent person can respect. &#8220;Political expediancy&#8221; is the excuse of a politician who has no conviction of right and wrong, only &#8220;convictions&#8221; led by what he thinks will gain him the most power, influence, etc.</p>
<p>Again, when I look at Mitt Romney to see what&#8217;s there, I see no &#8220;there&#8221; there at all, just poll-driven pablum for the sheeple.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 16:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Iâ€™m less interested in what Romney may have done or been forced to do for the sake of political expediency in liberal Massachusetts, than what policy he is actually running on, his character and his skills.&quot;

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You don&#039;t get it, do you, Mike.  A man who accepts evil for the sake of political expediency has no character.

James</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Iâ€™m less interested in what Romney may have done or been forced to do for the sake of political expediency in liberal Massachusetts, than what policy he is actually running on, his character and his skills.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t get it, do you, Mike.  A man who accepts evil for the sake of political expediency has no character.</p>
<p>James</p>
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		<title>By: Mick Stockinger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mick Stockinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 16:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its been interesting reading the blogs that &quot;didn&#039;t&quot; like Romney&#039;s speech.  The gist seems to be Romney&#039;s &quot;Faith in America&quot; speech didn&#039;t address the faithless or Romney&#039;s no good because he&#039;s a convert on issues like abortion.  Apparently politics isn&#039;t the art of the possible, but a haven for the rigid and doctrinaire.  The misrepresentations and distortions of Romney&#039;s record also don&#039;t actually serve to convince anyone except of the fact that the writer is overwrought and perhaps a little scared.

I agree that we should elect a conservative, but what is more important?  Touting conservative credentials or running as a conservative?  The latter spells mandate, the former spells Anthony Kennedy.  I&#039;m less interested in what Romney may have done or been forced to do for the sake of political expediency in liberal Massachusetts, than what policy he is actually running on, his character and his skills.

We are facing difficult times, and my (our?) experience with George W. Bush demonstrates that having one&#039;s heart in the right place is not enough.  We need a president who is not only articulate, but can communicate the underlying reasons why a policy is the right thing for the country.  I was blown away by the Romney speech yesterday, not because it worked for him politically (which remains to be seen) but because he demonstrated an uncanny ability to communicate effectively on a subject that people generally consider a minefield.  Its a quality that a Republican president needs, because if he is depending on subordinate or worse, the media, he will get eaten alive and the party will suffer enormously.

I think its an incredible gift to have been given such a talented candidate in times that demand those talents.  If Romney doesn&#039;t get elected, its more than a missed opportunity, its a crime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its been interesting reading the blogs that &#8220;didn&#8217;t&#8221; like Romney&#8217;s speech.  The gist seems to be Romney&#8217;s &#8220;Faith in America&#8221; speech didn&#8217;t address the faithless or Romney&#8217;s no good because he&#8217;s a convert on issues like abortion.  Apparently politics isn&#8217;t the art of the possible, but a haven for the rigid and doctrinaire.  The misrepresentations and distortions of Romney&#8217;s record also don&#8217;t actually serve to convince anyone except of the fact that the writer is overwrought and perhaps a little scared.</p>
<p>I agree that we should elect a conservative, but what is more important?  Touting conservative credentials or running as a conservative?  The latter spells mandate, the former spells Anthony Kennedy.  I&#8217;m less interested in what Romney may have done or been forced to do for the sake of political expediency in liberal Massachusetts, than what policy he is actually running on, his character and his skills.</p>
<p>We are facing difficult times, and my (our?) experience with George W. Bush demonstrates that having one&#8217;s heart in the right place is not enough.  We need a president who is not only articulate, but can communicate the underlying reasons why a policy is the right thing for the country.  I was blown away by the Romney speech yesterday, not because it worked for him politically (which remains to be seen) but because he demonstrated an uncanny ability to communicate effectively on a subject that people generally consider a minefield.  Its a quality that a Republican president needs, because if he is depending on subordinate or worse, the media, he will get eaten alive and the party will suffer enormously.</p>
<p>I think its an incredible gift to have been given such a talented candidate in times that demand those talents.  If Romney doesn&#8217;t get elected, its more than a missed opportunity, its a crime.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 13:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mitt Romney says his faith guides him on everything.

What baloney!

This is a man who embraced abortion on demand, promoting to school kids in mASSachusetts sodomy and other sexual perversions, screwing the Boy Scouts at the Olympics, and rolling over for sodomite &#039;marriage&#039; in his state.

Mitt Romney is a slick and well-spoken opportunist, who consistently tells different groups of voters whatever he thinks they want to hear.

Mitt Romeny says a child deserves a mother and a father.  Then why did he roll over when the Massachusetts government forced the Catholic Church there to give up its adoption agency, because it refused to turn children over to sodomites to be raised?

The only thing you can be sure of with Mitt is that if he needs your vote, you&#039;ll hear exactly what you want to hear.  Same with this religion speech.

The man has no internal integrity whatsoever, but he is very smart.

He is a lot like - Bill Clinton.

James</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mitt Romney says his faith guides him on everything.</p>
<p>What baloney!</p>
<p>This is a man who embraced abortion on demand, promoting to school kids in mASSachusetts sodomy and other sexual perversions, screwing the Boy Scouts at the Olympics, and rolling over for sodomite &#8216;marriage&#8217; in his state.</p>
<p>Mitt Romney is a slick and well-spoken opportunist, who consistently tells different groups of voters whatever he thinks they want to hear.</p>
<p>Mitt Romeny says a child deserves a mother and a father.  Then why did he roll over when the Massachusetts government forced the Catholic Church there to give up its adoption agency, because it refused to turn children over to sodomites to be raised?</p>
<p>The only thing you can be sure of with Mitt is that if he needs your vote, you&#8217;ll hear exactly what you want to hear.  Same with this religion speech.</p>
<p>The man has no internal integrity whatsoever, but he is very smart.</p>
<p>He is a lot like &#8211; Bill Clinton.</p>
<p>James</p>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Romney&#039;s goal to calm fears in speech on his Mormon faith&lt;/strong&gt;

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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 12:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems to me Romney is a politician.  He comes across as having as an opportunist, changing his beliefs to whatever is politically convenient.  That isn&#039;t an attack, just how he comes across to me.  Watch the videos, and defend against them if you are a Mitt fan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems to me Romney is a politician.  He comes across as having as an opportunist, changing his beliefs to whatever is politically convenient.  That isn&#8217;t an attack, just how he comes across to me.  Watch the videos, and defend against them if you are a Mitt fan.</p>
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		<title>By: kerwin</title>
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		<dc:creator>kerwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 06:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From what I heard Romney is a Secularist pretending to be a Mormon.  That Government over God speech of his gave it away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From what I heard Romney is a Secularist pretending to be a Mormon.  That Government over God speech of his gave it away.</p>
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